AverRal
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I was refering to SPGs
You know, we should start doing a new show on TV
Instead of "Yo mama is so ...."
We should like "You are a SPG because you .....*toot*... "
Singapore Style.
Would this piss you off?
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I was refering to SPGs
You know, we should start doing a new show on TV
Instead of "Yo mama is so ...."
We should like "You are a SPG because you .....*toot*... "
Singapore Style.
fgl
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kerplunk182
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You're an SPG cause you smell pretty good. KNOTFUNNY.
Speaking of SPGs, anyone read Neil Humphrey's books?
Speaking of SPGs, anyone read Neil Humphrey's books?
I have his Omnibus edition, all 3 books in 1, HOLY HELL THAT GUY IS PLAIN AWESOME.
Why must he emigrate to Aussieland
Good thing he's still writing for TODAY =DDDDD
vickomaniac
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omfg yeah he is so awesome!! 
MichaelAngelo
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Waiwaiwait!!!
Before we go on...It's apparent that some people here don't know the diff between a slang and an accent. Do check it out in the dictionary if you're unsure. There's a reason why i bolded the word's "SLANG" when quoting the woman saying it, cos it was outright rotten English. An american would probably not mix these 2 up, despite them having really bad spelling.
BTW I may not be able to speak in an american accent (cept for once when I got injected with something in the hospital and got high), but I sure know what a SPG fake american accent sounds like.
Before we go on...It's apparent that some people here don't know the diff between a slang and an accent. Do check it out in the dictionary if you're unsure. There's a reason why i bolded the word's "SLANG" when quoting the woman saying it, cos it was outright rotten English. An american would probably not mix these 2 up, despite them having really bad spelling.
BTW I may not be able to speak in an american accent (cept for once when I got injected with something in the hospital and got high), but I sure know what a SPG fake american accent sounds like.
kerplunk182
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I have his Omnibus edition, all 3 books in 1, HOLY HELL THAT GUY IS PLAIN AWESOME.
Why must he emigrate to Aussieland
Good thing he's still writing for TODAY =DDDDD
ARGH! The 3 in 1 version came out a week after i got 2 books from him! So angry! Make me spend more money. The older covers looked nicer than the new ones though
jeepers
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Actually, I dare say a fair bit of Singaporeans don't know the difference between a SLANG and an ACCENT. We could conduct a random survey anywhere around the island and you'd be surprised.
That's why there was this huge debate on whether the English language should be taught by native English speakers.
Phrasing and structuring sentences is another problem.
That's why there was this huge debate on whether the English language should be taught by native English speakers.
Phrasing and structuring sentences is another problem.
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I can't stand it when people try so hard to fake an accent which does not belong to them. I mean, it's really great if you can speak really good and cool English and it's okay if you can't. Not everyone is a linguist but it's definitely not okay to try so hard to be something you aren't.
But one thing for sure, I'm always amused with some singaporeans' English. They always create the most absurd and hilarious statements with their poor grammar and crappy vocabulary.
No offense to anyone. I'm a chinese singaporean but strangely, I'm not tied down with Singlish that badly although lahs, lehs do appear at times.
But one thing for sure, I'm always amused with some singaporeans' English. They always create the most absurd and hilarious statements with their poor grammar and crappy vocabulary.
No offense to anyone. I'm a chinese singaporean but strangely, I'm not tied down with Singlish that badly although lahs, lehs do appear at times.
vickomaniac
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well i think i speak well.
i'm pretty proud of the way i've been asked to emcee for speech day and do other reading/speaking tasks.
i don't look down on people who have a more limited vocabulary than mine.
i look down on people who cannot speak proper english to save their lives, but act as if they are masters of english and etymology.
i'm pretty proud of the way i've been asked to emcee for speech day and do other reading/speaking tasks.
i don't look down on people who have a more limited vocabulary than mine.
i look down on people who cannot speak proper english to save their lives, but act as if they are masters of english and etymology.
EugeneSmasher
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To be honest, if I were that ang moh in the train and heard her imitating American accent loudly in the train, I might assume she's making fun of me.
But as a bystander it still pisses me off. Wow, what an image she's projecting to foreigners. Bad enough that people like to generalize.
But as a bystander it still pisses me off. Wow, what an image she's projecting to foreigners. Bad enough that people like to generalize.
jeepers
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:mrgreen: My exact sentiments.
With regards to the SPG whoring herself, I wouldn't actually do anything if I had been there. Totally sucks to have a short botak ang moh checking you out and eventually hitting on you, but if that's the only thing that can make her wet, so be it.
Anyhow, I'm pretty disappointed with the standard of English taught at the Primary and Secondary level. How I wish I had a funky Brit teach me English, like my dad in his SJI days.
snuffleupagus
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obviously some of you have not heard our hongkong friends speak their american english with bad grammar et al...its their choice how they want to speak or how they think they should speak, why be bothered or even worse, pissed off?
I sense your contempt for such people is developed elsewhere in some form of personal insecurity issue (insinuation and indirect assumption of the probablity of her being an SPG is a dead give-away)because I seriously cannot see how anyone can get so affected by someone who is not talking to you in the first place in the MRT.
You seem to be bothered more about the way she spoke rather the volume of her voice that shattered your fragile sense of privacy in of all places, a MRT cabin.
Other than that, forget it la, its a small issue.
I sense your contempt for such people is developed elsewhere in some form of personal insecurity issue (insinuation and indirect assumption of the probablity of her being an SPG is a dead give-away)because I seriously cannot see how anyone can get so affected by someone who is not talking to you in the first place in the MRT.
You seem to be bothered more about the way she spoke rather the volume of her voice that shattered your fragile sense of privacy in of all places, a MRT cabin.
Other than that, forget it la, its a small issue.
spartacusx
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eh? u makan at subway ah??? mmm .. subway. . .
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hecklerkoch
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Aiyah, in the end it's always about 'face'.
The non-English educated will negatively perceive the ones who are better educated and choose to speak English properly as pretentious bananas.
The (sometimes) highbrow, overseas educated ones view the non-English educated as uncultured and backward.
The first group prides itself for being the preservers of traditions, heritage and culture, thus the pride in speaking 'Singlish' which is 'lazy' English peppered by terms from the main languages in Singapore comprising of Tamil, Malay, Mandarin and the various Chinese dialects. Most of the time, shortcuts are used, instead of speaking in properly structured sentences. The real intention seems to be communicating with the least effort, while at the same time achieving the most desired effect.
The other group tends to focus more on progress and globalization. The emphasis is more on being understood by all, including both localized foreigners and tourists/business visitors. This group seems more focused on being perceived as educated, well-travelled and exposed to current affairs and financial markets. You'll rarely see this people read 'The New Paper', a publication deemed as sensationalist and full of boh liao rubbish. Their choice of daily news are strictly The Straits Times and The Business Times.
So, why do I say it's about 'face'?
Simple.
People don't like being perceived as inferior. So, if you are not good in English, the automatic defensive response is to highlight what you are good at, instead. So, you defend your own mother tongues, your own cultures and somehow dismiss the different, in this case all things Western, as unnecessary.
As for the English-educated, they are more exposed to foreigners and all things foreign ie. movies, music, literature, fashion, news, politics etc. So, they are more inclined to communicate like the Americans and the Englishmen do. So, these people won't likely want to be caught dead speaking like Mark Lee or Jack Neo.
Me?
I am an advocate of adapting to your surroundings.
I realize it is an important part of life to make people comfortable, and different people feel comfortable in many different ways. Absolutely no fault of theirs, and it's their choice. In the end, we have to respect that. It's what keeps the harmony in Singapore - the tolerance of each other's quirks.
But I've never felt comfortable with some people who obviously go out of their ways to speak exactly like an American or a British. It just feels so weird. For those who knows the difference between proper enunciation and slang, I am sure you know what I mean.
Thanks for reading this.
Just one of my many 'theses'.
:mrgreen:
The non-English educated will negatively perceive the ones who are better educated and choose to speak English properly as pretentious bananas.
The (sometimes) highbrow, overseas educated ones view the non-English educated as uncultured and backward.
The first group prides itself for being the preservers of traditions, heritage and culture, thus the pride in speaking 'Singlish' which is 'lazy' English peppered by terms from the main languages in Singapore comprising of Tamil, Malay, Mandarin and the various Chinese dialects. Most of the time, shortcuts are used, instead of speaking in properly structured sentences. The real intention seems to be communicating with the least effort, while at the same time achieving the most desired effect.
The other group tends to focus more on progress and globalization. The emphasis is more on being understood by all, including both localized foreigners and tourists/business visitors. This group seems more focused on being perceived as educated, well-travelled and exposed to current affairs and financial markets. You'll rarely see this people read 'The New Paper', a publication deemed as sensationalist and full of boh liao rubbish. Their choice of daily news are strictly The Straits Times and The Business Times.
So, why do I say it's about 'face'?
Simple.
People don't like being perceived as inferior. So, if you are not good in English, the automatic defensive response is to highlight what you are good at, instead. So, you defend your own mother tongues, your own cultures and somehow dismiss the different, in this case all things Western, as unnecessary.
As for the English-educated, they are more exposed to foreigners and all things foreign ie. movies, music, literature, fashion, news, politics etc. So, they are more inclined to communicate like the Americans and the Englishmen do. So, these people won't likely want to be caught dead speaking like Mark Lee or Jack Neo.
Me?
I am an advocate of adapting to your surroundings.
I realize it is an important part of life to make people comfortable, and different people feel comfortable in many different ways. Absolutely no fault of theirs, and it's their choice. In the end, we have to respect that. It's what keeps the harmony in Singapore - the tolerance of each other's quirks.
But I've never felt comfortable with some people who obviously go out of their ways to speak exactly like an American or a British. It just feels so weird. For those who knows the difference between proper enunciation and slang, I am sure you know what I mean.
Thanks for reading this.
Just one of my many 'theses'.
:mrgreen:
MichaelAngelo
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hey snuffle, you're right about me having an insecurity...i am indeed insecure about singapore's lack of community spirit, lack of identity, rampant acceptence of pinkerton's, rotten "if they can do it, why can't i?" attitudes, and many more. Because of that, I get totally swept off my feet when i visit other countries(including malaysia) and see the patriotism, the people treating their own kind better, the rich culture..etc.
Eg. You don't know how much it touches me when i visit places like taiwan and I see a schoolkid picking up a toothpick(which is biodegradable) which fell off his box of muah chee into the damp soil. Trust me, the streets were TOTALLY CLEAN...no need for any cleaners, fines, or even dustbins(its so hard to find a dustbin yet theres no litter at all)..and I'm not even talking about a tourist attraction. The people there keep only to the right side(its right side over there) of the escalator, and queue up to enter the MRT. They treat chinese people(cept for china people due to political reasons) better cos "we're a family", instead of sucking up to ang mohs.
Then in australia, people are so patriotic, and proud to be aussies. Once again, streets are totally clean with no cleaners/fine warnings around. Clean streets show the people's attitude's towards caring for their country. Some people there were nice to me until they heard my "foreign accent" and started getting rude...Shows that they treat their own people better, unlike here in singapore. I'm very touched when I hear waltzing matilda and think about the rich rich culture that's been developing there for so many years. Alas, the worst form of racism I encountered in australia was from a hongkee restaurant owner who was FUNKING RUDE, like shove-you-the-bill-and-grab-the-cash-out-of-your-hand-and-not-say-thank-you-rude and only treated ang mohs well.
In malaysia, people actually give a shit about each other. On highways, when a traffic policeman is spotted with a speed detector on the road shoulder of your side of the road, motorists on the other side(oncoming traffic side) will flash their headlights at you to warn you. It speaks a lot about the community wanting to help each other. Also, you'd probably have encountered Malaysians who get SUPER defensive about their country, yet accept all the criticism about their country from their fellow countrymen. Shows that they are proud of their country despite their internal problems, and desire to project a good image of their country. Yes, its VERY IRRITATING to us when they act like that, but it does show their sense of patriotism.
So at the end of the day, being a person who desires to be in a community where people do the right thing for the sake of the better of their country, and not for the fear of fines or ridicule, I get affected real bad when I see people who look down on their own kind and treat foreigners who really dont matter better. Till today, I insist on "stupidly" standing on the left side of the escalators(even tho it wont make a difference, some say), saying thank you to shuttle bus drivers, never littering(sometimes i even pick up litter like a discarded flyer on train platforms), always remembering my Ps and Qs when buying stuff, or even when the cleaner clears my table at a coffeeshop....etc. WHY? because of my dreams of being in a community where people cared. Sometimes, I really want to move away from Singapore and into another country where I know that even if I don't get accepted for being too foreign, my children will be, and they can be part of a cohesive community and not just give a shit about themselves. I also desire a freedom of speech, sometimes, I have TRUTHS to say, but can't say them all because they are politically incorrect, and I'd end up in jail if I said them...
SPGs are the epitome of people who look down on their own kind, and look up to foreigners who dont care, except to feel superior. Having a bad fake accent is one thing, but the reason behind the use of the fake accent is the thing that bothers me so much.
Eg. You don't know how much it touches me when i visit places like taiwan and I see a schoolkid picking up a toothpick(which is biodegradable) which fell off his box of muah chee into the damp soil. Trust me, the streets were TOTALLY CLEAN...no need for any cleaners, fines, or even dustbins(its so hard to find a dustbin yet theres no litter at all)..and I'm not even talking about a tourist attraction. The people there keep only to the right side(its right side over there) of the escalator, and queue up to enter the MRT. They treat chinese people(cept for china people due to political reasons) better cos "we're a family", instead of sucking up to ang mohs.
Then in australia, people are so patriotic, and proud to be aussies. Once again, streets are totally clean with no cleaners/fine warnings around. Clean streets show the people's attitude's towards caring for their country. Some people there were nice to me until they heard my "foreign accent" and started getting rude...Shows that they treat their own people better, unlike here in singapore. I'm very touched when I hear waltzing matilda and think about the rich rich culture that's been developing there for so many years. Alas, the worst form of racism I encountered in australia was from a hongkee restaurant owner who was FUNKING RUDE, like shove-you-the-bill-and-grab-the-cash-out-of-your-hand-and-not-say-thank-you-rude and only treated ang mohs well.
In malaysia, people actually give a shit about each other. On highways, when a traffic policeman is spotted with a speed detector on the road shoulder of your side of the road, motorists on the other side(oncoming traffic side) will flash their headlights at you to warn you. It speaks a lot about the community wanting to help each other. Also, you'd probably have encountered Malaysians who get SUPER defensive about their country, yet accept all the criticism about their country from their fellow countrymen. Shows that they are proud of their country despite their internal problems, and desire to project a good image of their country. Yes, its VERY IRRITATING to us when they act like that, but it does show their sense of patriotism.
So at the end of the day, being a person who desires to be in a community where people do the right thing for the sake of the better of their country, and not for the fear of fines or ridicule, I get affected real bad when I see people who look down on their own kind and treat foreigners who really dont matter better. Till today, I insist on "stupidly" standing on the left side of the escalators(even tho it wont make a difference, some say), saying thank you to shuttle bus drivers, never littering(sometimes i even pick up litter like a discarded flyer on train platforms), always remembering my Ps and Qs when buying stuff, or even when the cleaner clears my table at a coffeeshop....etc. WHY? because of my dreams of being in a community where people cared. Sometimes, I really want to move away from Singapore and into another country where I know that even if I don't get accepted for being too foreign, my children will be, and they can be part of a cohesive community and not just give a shit about themselves. I also desire a freedom of speech, sometimes, I have TRUTHS to say, but can't say them all because they are politically incorrect, and I'd end up in jail if I said them...
SPGs are the epitome of people who look down on their own kind, and look up to foreigners who dont care, except to feel superior. Having a bad fake accent is one thing, but the reason behind the use of the fake accent is the thing that bothers me so much.
rottenramone
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wow. u is must have spent quite a lot of timings type out that.
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