seventheaven

[LEMONed_Z]

i jammed through a marshall jcm2000 last week. was dying to run the 7th through it but it wasnt ready yet. next time i guess

The JCM2000 I find it v.bright. I used the 7th into the clean channel and yikes... doesn't go that well though the treble on the amp n pedal are both rolled back.

 

[niteblade]

lol ooh shred. thats a really interesting update!

"I like my guitar sound to be preserved when I kick in my gain. I never understood how a smooth, thick, fat clean tone could turn into a screaming, scooped-mids, grinding high gain metal thing..."

totally agree with you on this

 

[ShredCow]

LEMONed_Z, I find the 7th is very sensitive to external uh... stuff. Like for example, if an amp has a treble cap, the 7th will show it very obviously. Is that ... bad? Not really and maybe it is. Depends on your usage but as Goose mentioned before - use the right tools for the job.

niteblade, yeah well... I believe in that idea a lot. That's why I spend a lot of time (and money) to get my guitar to sound right - I really only need one terrific sound. That said, the current update to the 7th does bring it closer to the EQ transparency I prefer from dirt pedals. So what I have is my guitar, mahogany and all, that has a thicker lower-mids with some 'spank' (prob due to the pau ferro fretboard and thick maple top), and it shows thru the 7th - even better this time round.

 

[gsonique]

The JCM2000 is known to be a bright amp as it comes stock with a bright cap.
Looking at the schematic, a 220pf treble cap followed by a 100pf bleed cap on the gain pot ...yikes!!
For most high gain application, the treble bleed is usually either turned off or completely removed.
Futhermore it doesn't really have a dedicated clean channel and i assume it's not gain pedal friendly too.

As for the bass reduction, the Jfet source (cathode) cap on the second stage was reduced by half thus giving the less low end "boom". This has been a 'mixed bag' of user reviews as some prefer what it does stock. (Note: this mod does NOT affect channel 2)

I personally find the stock working best with my amps via 4x12 at Gworx cave at any volume and when cranked... the bass evens out giving fullness for that high gain channel 3 grind. Now, compared with the mod to reduce "boom", the difference is apparent but minimal given the pedal bass knob cranked.
Maybe it's the way i pluck the strings ... ??!!

Cheers for the reviews ...enjoy.

 

[ShredCow]

Note: this mod does NOT affect channel 2

This makes sense... if there was a bass cut to Channel 2, that wouldn't... be too nice.

You'll have an SD1!!!!!!!!!!

bahwhahaaha...

 

[Ized]

I like it best stock....it insanely chugs for what I live for yeah!

The only problem now i have is boosting the level for lead....the current "so-called" clean boost pedal i have injects its own character, cutting off the bass and increasing the treble on the 7th...yikes! Not my idea of a nice, thick cutting lead tone..... me hopes the Boosty Goose whips up will solve this!

 

[PatheinRaindropMoe]

try going parallel if everything fails.

The ability to mix the amount/percentage of boost in parallel to any distortion after it can be useful. Only thing might be the buffer circuit for maintaining the parallel blending, changing the characteristic of gain pedals.

 

[joshuak]

I like it best stock....it insanely chugs for what I live for yeah!

The only problem now i have is boosting the level for lead....the current "so-called" clean boost pedal i have injects its own character, cutting off the bass and increasing the treble on the 7th...yikes! Not my idea of a nice, thick cutting lead tone..... me hopes the Boosty Goose whips up will solve this!

Can oso send a Boss SD-1 for Goose to mod as a low OD / booster. He did a good job with mine. To my ears, the sound quality is in the same league as my best booteek pedals.

 

[ShredCow]

try going parallel if everything fails.

The ability to mix the amount/percentage of boost in parallel to any distortion after it can be useful. Only thing might be the buffer circuit for maintaining the parallel blending, changing the characteristic of gain pedals.

You're right Pathein... but...

What if I haven't tried EVERYTHING yet?

*gasp*

Hehehhe.

On a side - what's a good mixer you've tried? that xotic thing?

 

[gsonique]

You're right Pathein...

On a side - what's a good mixer you've tried? that xotic thing?

*WARNING*

You have asked THE question from THA MAN ...so be prepared to be confused!!

all yours pathein....

 

[tubescreamer]

Can oso send a Boss SD-1 for Goose to mod as a low OD / booster. He did a good job with mine. To my ears, the sound quality is in the same league as my best booteek pedals.

Wow sounds like Goose really does all kinds of mods.

Could you list down some of the mods you've done for others in the past, you know, to fuel the GAS

 

[snuffleupagus]

goose did for me a very simple "mod" long ago that has helped me immensely. Cheers Goooose!!

 

[Ized]

Interesting advancements on the 7th...

My 7th now has a bass cut overall, the boost has been toned down and the bass cut from that too, the overall grind/sizzle/bite has been reduced a little.

I think its sounds better. I like my guitar sound to be preserved when I kick in my gain. I never understood how a smooth, thick, fat clean tone could turn into a screaming, scooped-mids, grinding high gain metal thing...

The low end is no longer boomy on the Red Channel, Boost On. I used to complain to Goose that the neck single coil on my guitar sounded too phat, too thick - kind of un-natural - but with the bass cut overall and after toning down the Boost, I think the 7th is closer to retaining the characteristics of the guitar.
Another cool thing is - last time, the stock bass has good a good boom to it. Some like it. I like it but for the sake of making the 7th work with a pedalboard, it didn't quite work out. Like, if I used another pedal to push the 7th, most pedals don't have the low end of the 7th, so a bass cut happens. That's fine - the idea is to tighten the low end and turn the tone into shreddy-ville. Right? Nope. Stock, the boomy low end gets CUT OFF and that was mighty weird. Suddenly, all the bass I was feeling disappeared. With this latest tweak, I find the 7th stacks much better with other pedals. Does the 7th sound smaller, less amp-like? I don't think so. Its just more tidy in the low end.

About the reduction in grind/sizzle/bite, its just a touch but I find it helps in reducing the "transistor-y sound". I mentioned about this some time back and it was a minor point - something you'd only notice if you a/b-ed the 7th against a pedal that say... ran on IC chips. Now that this is even less obvious, I really do this it is another improvement in the design of the 7th.
Another cool thing I noticed, running the 7th on 9v has a slightly fuzz/fizz character to it... with this improvement, that is also reduced.

I think the reduction in grind/sizzle/bite is stock on the newer 7ths. The bass cut - I guess its up to the player to decide, Goose will explain to you guys anyway...

Eh cow....so does the seventh interpret the neck pup the way you like it now? like the MIJ DS1 and your Openhaus? Please share 8)

 

[Ized]

Can oso send a Boss SD-1 for Goose to mod as a low OD / booster. He did a good job with mine. To my ears, the sound quality is in the same league as my best booteek pedals.

thanks for sharing man...will keep your suggestion in mind but right now my mind is dead set on a Boosty....so when ah Goose? need you to lay more of your golden eggs :lol:

 

[ShredCow]

Eh cow....so does the seventh interpret the neck pup the way you like it now? like the MIJ DS1 and your Openhaus? Please share 8)

The 7th gets it closer.

Originally, on the Red Channel and Boost On - I didn't like how phat the neck single coil tone was. I felt it wasn't an accurate representation. I dislike drive pedals that morph tones, for example, a single coil starts to sound like a humbucker.

After the mod, a single coil sounds like a single coil. A neck pickup retains its looser, tubular vibe without sounding over-saturated. Still a little too phat but its okay, I think its a huge improvement.

 

[Ized]

Hmm....i like it the way it is now....but i guess i should listen to what the mod can do for me. After all, the 7th has kinda altered my playing? I no longer anchor my pinky and i tend to alternate pick more...which suits the 7th cos there's inherently more snap and pick attack that comes along with it. Probably getting used to the fact that there's less compression too...something which i got used while playing op-amp based dirt pedals.

 

[niteblade]

ooh if it sounds too phat on a single coil neck pup

how would it fare on the neck humbucker?

anyone using a gibson style guitar here? lp/sg/335

 

[ShredCow]

Well, I don't think it is a BIG ISSUE.

Remember what I've mentioned some posts back - I like to analyze my tone and I have a particular sonic picture in mind.

Whatever I've mentioned, heck, it might make sense to some, to others, its just being "picky".

So you really got to try it out yourself.

Personally, the stock version, didn't capture the sound of a pickup pickup as well as I hoped for it to when using the Red Channel on Boost. This tweaked version - is getting very close to what I am hoping for.


I think a highlight here is that there is a Custom Shop of sorts here. Service extends to the personal and its right here, at our door step. I think that's pretty rad. Thanks Goose.

 

[funktastic]

has anyone tried boosting the seventheaven with a sahasrara?

 

[Ized]

Thanks cow. Just spoke to Goose on the phone just now...i might be getting mine modded. Never fails to amaze me how he manages to find time off his busy schedule to talk and explain stuff to me....given the amount of amps he has to repair and not to mention other mods and being on a tight production schedule fulfilling orders for the Seventheaven. Really cool guy with a great personal touch towards his customers.....