Boutique Gear: When did you fall for them?

[ShredCow]

I'm just going to follow my ears... haha... All op amps = boxy sounding. Compared to....... Blackstone.

 

[edder]

aiyah.... i just have to get this out.

Its always the design of the effect that makes THE difference.

Like tubes. Tubes = tone? Crap tube design = Tone?

Solid state discrete transistors = Tone? Silicon Fuzz Face = Tone?

Opamps = Boxy? Those kabajillionmajillion hifi equipment using opamps = Boxy?

Its all in the design. Don't put all the blame on the components.

Durian with fried rice is not nice.
BUT
Durian in a creampuff pasty is heavenly.

 

[snuffleupagus]

maybe one day during the next TAGS or something, goose, edder, blueark, randolf should conduct a layman workshop for basics of building a pedal...

Then people like us can understand more about the pedals we so often rave bout...

Hahah

Really la, someone should do it, and then end the day with some drinking session to forget all about whats been taught and learnt at the end of the day.

 

[edder]

that post above.... waste time only.

Lets head straight for the beer. :lol:

 

[snuffleupagus]

ya actually thinking about it, lets just head for beer lah, can learn more

 

[ShredCow]

Opamps = Boxy? Those kabajillionmajillion hifi equipment using opamps = Boxy?

Its all in the design. Don't put all the blame on the components.

Then whats a dirt pedal, op amp based, thats not boxy?

I'm curious...

 

[snuffleupagus]

Opamps = Boxy? Those kabajillionmajillion hifi equipment using opamps = Boxy?

Its all in the design. Don't put all the blame on the components.

Then whats a dirt pedal, op amp based, thats not boxy?

I'm curious...

liquid sunshine perhaps?

 

[ciel]

forget boxy non boxy. i suggest we just go beer. Archipelago Breweries anyone?

anyway cow u stereo typing againz. go buy some more pedals and tell me if they boxy or not
huhruhrurhurh

 

[ShredCow]

Is a liquid sunshine based on op amps? Jfets are op amps?

I just want to know, since I happen to like that open kind of tone, if there are other pedals that do it, because as it stands, every other op amp pedal i've tried/heard, is boxy sounding.

Just curious and I'm willing to learn.

 

[edder]

Opamps = Boxy? Those kabajillionmajillion hifi equipment using opamps = Boxy?

Its all in the design. Don't put all the blame on the components.

Then whats a dirt pedal, op amp based, thats not boxy?

I'm curious...

I need to elaborate further.

Dirt pedals.

Many methods of distorting the device.

These are some common methods.
Diodes in feedback loop eg Big Muff, TS
Diodes to ground eg Dist+, Rat
Cascading eg Blackstone
Hybrids eg Aron Nelson's Shakka Braddah III

All will have their inherent characteristics of signal clipping(in other words DIRT).

Shredcow the sound that you like is Cascading. But a BADLY designed cascading can sound like mush.

I repeat. Its the mainly the design not the components oh and leave out those MOJO germaniums lah... thats MOJOOOOO....

 

[snuffleupagus]

aaarrrggghh!!!!!

lets for for excursion at APB, i know some of the managers there...heheh

 

[ShredCow]

forget boxy non boxy. i suggest we just go beer. Archipelago Breweries anyone?

anyway cow u stereo typing againz. go buy some more pedals and tell me if they boxy or not
huhruhrurhurh

Its a tone i happen to like, so I'd like to explore that facet...

Any suggestions to "buy more pedals"?

 

[edder]

aaarrrggghh!!!!!

lets for for excursion at APB, i know some of the managers there...heheh

i need to link up with you and make you my "arh kah jik" bestestest friend. :lol:

 

[gsonique]

Keeley not so friendly on Aron's. Mr Fuller also.

I is support the folks there, Aron, Jack Orman, Brian Wampler and of course the much loved R.G Keen (who's amp I've been freakin dying to try).

Aiyah... when they have mouths to feed, bills to pay and a whole bunch of employees waiting for their monthly pay... its only right to be protective of their business.

Just that the way they go around doing things. Look at Zvex, he's cool and he mingles around in Aron's forum. So far I've not seen any of his stuff being posted online due to the respect people have for him. That is the way to go.

Ha hai ... Z no comments lah...needs to improve his vocab btw ff and other schemos posted ... ya ya ...my mouth is shut now!

 

[ShredCow]

Shredcow the sound that you like is Cascading. But a BADLY designed cascading can sound like mush.

I repeat. Its the mainly the design not the components oh and leave out those MOJO germaniums lah... thats MOJOOOOO....

okay... so... a well designed op amp circuit, for dirt boxes, will not sound boxy at all?

 

[snuffleupagus]

aaarrrggghh!!!!!

lets for for excursion at APB, i know some of the managers there...heheh

i need to link up with you and make you my "arh kah jik" bestestest friend. :lol:

hmm problem is , must use a company name or organisation to kaysiao go there to erm "learn"/"do our alcohol research" about the beer making process....but beer in the afternoon also can lar hor...

 

[ciel]

aaarrrggghh!!!!!

lets for for excursion at APB, i know some of the managers there...heheh

i need to link up with you and make you my "arh kah jik" bestestest friend. :lol:

bro nick bro y u nvr mention u know APB ppl. U is my bestest fren man. BEER PARTYYY!!!

 

[edder]

Shredcow the sound that you like is Cascading. But a BADLY designed cascading can sound like mush.

I repeat. Its the mainly the design not the components oh and leave out those MOJO germaniums lah... thats MOJOOOOO....

okay... so... a well designed op amp circuit, for dirt boxes, will not sound boxy at all?

i.... will.... not...... want.... to.... stran....gle.... choooo......... :twisted:

 

[ShredCow]

Hahaha!
Aiyah.

Dude, I understand how you feel but HELL, i'm a total noob on this electronics thing. :lol:

Thing is, if its about well design, then I just want to hear/buy/use/try a dirt box thats op amp based and open sounding. Thats all.

 

[snuffleupagus]

aaarrrggghh!!!!!

lets for for excursion at APB, i know some of the managers there...heheh

i need to link up with you and make you my "arh kah jik" bestestest friend. :lol:

bro nick bro y u nvr mention u know APB ppl. U is my bestest fren man. BEER PARTYYY!!!

actually hor, anyone now got decent degree who can do marketing , can join APB now, slots open for managerial position and executive position too..whiles slots last!!..inside info lah, haven post on job-ads yet i think....JOB reQuirement-MUST LIKE to Drink,

seriously...