Multi-effects or Individual stompboxes?

[Xypher]

What is the main differences in sound between the XTL and X3L?

And also, those ppl who use Multieffects, how do you create a 'big' sound which gives an effect of playing through an actual amp? I notice that playing through a real amp gives that big loud sound that has more presence.. MFX gives a feeling like the guitar tone is small and puny.

Is there any adjustments i can make to my podxtl patch to make it sound bigger and more in your face?

 

[MadWerewolfBoy]

Differences I'm not very sure. I've heard people say the x3 live is easier to tweak in such a way it doesn't sound digital.

One really great adjustment you can do is it plug in into multiple loudspeakers. These 12" or 15" cones monsters will definately rectify the problem. A pair of 12" is usually good enough, but four would be better. If these aren't available at home, that's still okay, it means you have to tweak a lil more to get what you are aiming for. It is totally possible to tweak a sound similar or cloes to those guitar tracks you hear on CDs through normal speakers.

 

[Xypher]

Well im not using any amp..I used a vox ad15 but it sounded very muddy. So i use Podxtl>laptop>line out to pc speakers.

I wonder if its worth it to upgrade to x3l...

 

[MadWerewolfBoy]

you should try first before deciding. The extra $$$ might not be worth it. Drop by City Music and ask them for a trail run, they'd definately let you try!

 

[Faizalhacker]

Thankz to dhalif from citymusic and i just bought a zoom g2....can anyone guide me on this pedal??Its kinda confusing....

 

[MadWerewolfBoy]

The manual is quite comprehensive. Everything you need to know is more or less in there, just have to read up slowly.

 

[theunknown]

yeah my frens who are zoom users say that their mmfx sound good but not that user friendly.

 

[Whitestrat]

Depends on the amp too, though. Mine is a 10-watter and has no modulation or delay. The gain is also quite limited, more in the Vox / Fender league than the Mesa Boogie / Marshall / Peavey league.

So for me I have no choice but to rely solely on a separate multi-effects processor.

If you have a small budget, but like your chain simple, then just 2 or 3 boxes will be fine. If you have a medium budget and want everything, then multi efx... if you have a huge budget and want everything else, then many stomp boxes...

I personally keep both systems. Multi-efx for me is meant for home recordings. everything you hear in my siggy is done thru a PODXTLive... The set up I use in studios or live is thru either what the amp can deliver, or my pedals... which there are only 5: High gain distortion, Tube overdrive, Vintage styled analog chorus, multi delay and digital reverb. Occasionally, I throw a wah in there...

I'm a simple guy...

 

[hatecrew]

single pedals!!!11

yeah, i agree that you just gotta buy what you need. that's the reason why i use single pedals. i don't really find a practical use for modulations, so i get only dirt pedals. mainly, overdrive and distortion. say for my wah and delay, which i don't use so often anyway, as compared to my overdrive pedals.

 

[MilkTea]

I'm not sure how the gt-8 actually works, but it shouldn't be too far off other multi effect units in its range. All i know is usually, one effect per slot can be switched on, eg 1 overdrive can be switched on at once, not a ds-1 mt-2 etc at the same time. Same for modulations, so either chorus or flanger but not both. The usual chain looks something like this:

Noise gate -> od -> efx loop -> amp/cab -> modulation -> comp -> EQ -> reverb -> delay. There might be more or the pedal might allow you to swtich the order but that's basically the common function of multi effects.

am i able to have a delay and flanger at the time?

 

[empihsrow]

Can anyone recommend low-budget multi-effects? Preferably below $120?

Because most of the time I'm checking out the higher ends such as Digitech Workstation, Boss GT8, etc. Rarely taken a look at the low-budget series.

 

[MadWerewolfBoy]

am i able to have a delay and flanger at the time?

Usually, yes, because flanger belongs to modulations while delay is under... well, delay! :twisted:

 

[Plastic]

Can anyone recommend low-budget multi-effects? Preferably below $120?

Because most of the time I'm checking out the higher ends such as Digitech Workstation, Boss GT8, etc. Rarely taken a look at the low-budget series.

Zoom G2?

I used to have the G1, that was the only multi efx. Quite an arse, to be honest, to set patches, that's why I don't even go near the GT-8s or the Pods, it'll blow my lazy ass away. I prefer good ole stomp boxes.

 

[EugeneSmasher]

I think Zooms, though cheap and with decent sound quality, are very hard to use and take a long time getting used to. I find that in the MFX realm, Line 6 MFXs are the easiest to use. Boss gives better sound quality but harder to use.

It took me some time to get used to my floorPOD, but I only trust Line 6 MFXs... I'm willing to pay the high price because a pedalboard with equal number of effects is still way more expensive than a POD X3 Live. More economical... I'm willing to try some Zooms and Digitechs though.

I think Digitech's RP series are the lower-budget ones, but even then they aren't cheap... For a budget of 120, you can only get a Zoom or a Korg AX3G I think. I'd recommend the latter. I heard Zooms produce some sort of scratchy noise...

 

[EugeneSmasher]

There are some who will always prefer MFX.. My bandmate has a pedalboard and an MFX, and he prefers the MFX over the pedalboard. I guess I'm more or less wired that way too.

 

[MadWerewolfBoy]

Well, it depends on the single pedals he has... For me, I would prefer individual pedals if I had the money... But currently, the next step for me to get a good sound would be amps, not pedals.

 

[EugeneSmasher]

Precisely. The amp plays a big part. Even a MFX sounds different when used with different amps, however subtle. I'm not going pedalboard now, I'm saving my money for a Marshall JCM800! :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

 

[empihsrow]

I think Digitech's RP series are the lower-budget ones, but even then they aren't cheap... For a budget of 120, you can only get a Zoom or a Korg AX3G I think. I'd recommend the latter. I heard Zooms produce some sort of scratchy noise...

Anyone knows how much a RP costs?

 

[EugeneSmasher]

RP80 is around 250 brand new I think. Ok, still cheaper than Line 6 equivalent. I always thought Line 6 stuff were seriously high-priced.

But the thing is, don't expect amazing tone from MFX, because its digital. Some people prefer the digital tone though, I'm not one of them. I'm starting my own pedalboard :mrgreen:. So yeah now my vote goes to stompboxes. For convenience. I barely use effects, all I need is overdrive and high-gain distortion, so yeah.

 

[sehaime]

Had pedals before, not worth the hassle i think with all that weight, setup issues and so on. As long as i don't have a good amp (and a car mind to transport all that stuff around), I'll stick to multifx. I can set everything at home and just adjust the amp eq at the jam or gig place.