MIJ DS-1

[ShredCow]

Brundi, have you seen me seriously recommend people things beyond them, when they have stated their needs, budget and usage?

What we get are SOFTies who would say, "Whats a good delay pedal ah?".

Obviously. Echoczar.

Between an MT-2 and a GT-2? Like $200 difference? Would I recommend the MT-2? No. I'd say save up and get something better.

Recently, some guy asked for recommendations for a good rhythm pedal, to get a Billie Joe kind of umph tone. He stated he didn't want Boss. No stock, "normal" pedals. And he got the replies that were catered exactly to what he wanted. Except I recommend an Analogman DS-1, which is well, 1/2 not right.

So yes. Your last line, is in fact, a prerequisite if a SOFTie wants proper advice given to him.

 

[DarknessFury]

Billie Joe? Green Day's frontman?

 

[brundisium]

i see i see, cheers :lol:

so what makes echoczar a good delay? Anyone try it before or just because of the price and what other people say else where.. 8)

 

[embryo]

Aiyooooo this is getting more so about who prefers who makes the best char kway teow and who prefers which apple against which apple from lord knows where and whether one is more organic than the other rite? farny la you all

I hope this debate doesn't lead to war ya! ?P

At the end of the day variety afterall is the spice of life.

 

[embryo]

i see i see, cheers :lol:

so what makes echoczar a good delay? Anyone try it before or just because of the price and what other people say else where.. 8)

I wouldn'y mind owning the echozar if money was no object! 8)
Oops! Gotta check with my wife about what I just said... :roll:

 

[ShredCow]

so what makes echoczar a good delay? Anyone try it before or just because of the price and what other people say else where.. 8)

*Shrugs*
I hear clips. I read reviews about them.

If I, no, if WE can't recommend gear without having tried them, then we're a sad community that will know little.

Nothing wrong with recommending things we've only heard about. Thats how I got my Blackstone and what abt? It rocks. That's also how I got a Boss DS-1 (MIT) back in the day when I was a noob, and what abt? It was horrid. Its all up to the kid whether he wants to follow advice or not, or whether he wisens up enough to do his homework before heeding advice.

And mind you. I never recommended the echoczar seriously to any SOFTie who could not afford it. I do, and would, heartily press for people to purchase a Skreddy Screwdriver.

 

[brundisium]

so you read and listen to clips?

guess we see things differently :lol: I rather have a small community that knows their stuff based on hands on experience than a big one with hear says and clips.

It seem funny to me having people talking about things, how good it is, when there's no chance to try out and just rely on hear say, clips and what their favourite artists are using and determined it's good.

my sad worthless cent :lol:

 

[MrE]

well brundisium, i respect your ideal of a community with loads of personal experience in boutique gear, and able to dish out well-intentioned advice to newbies.

but understand that it has to start somewhere.

for SOFT, most are not at the level of our counterparts in US forums (due to cost, committment, and availability of products), so we are not able to give our hands-on reviews.

most of us rely on clips or written reviews to make our judgements > then we take the plunge and buy it > then we can give our own hands-on review of it.

if we dont like it, maybe we'll sell it, then give others a chance to try and learn, and hopefully review their take as well. As these boutique pedals get passed around the 2nd hand mkt, more ppl become aware and capable of making better judgements - hence bringing in the second wave of boutique users.

then more ppl will be inspired to buy other boutique stuff, then give their personal reviews, and the cycle continues until we reach a level where more of us can give first hand reviews of expensive, hard-to-attain gear.

or you can just stick to US forums where half of the forumites own and use boutique gear 8)

 

[brundisium]

true true. I get what you mean.

and yes, i do know that foreign forums have better understanding of effect, be it boutique or commonly found pedals and also how they don't push the word or idea of boutique like us here as if it's the best thing since (fill in the blank with your favourite food/activity/action :lol: )

 

[ShredCow]

Heh. Don't see why I can't push for booteek stuff. Why not when I am convinced its simply the next level? Its simply better. You can interpret "better" as whatever you like.

And again, I appreciate you bringing your comments on a more general level for all SOFTies to take note, but if you are trying to point anything at me, you better browse thru the forum and find some beef instead of implying I push without proper "hands on experience". :lol:

For your information, there is a small community of SOFTies who actively go buy/try boutique gear like your "foreign forums" counterparts. And yeah, we only buy when our friends from USA drop in with the physical pedals! :lol:

You can take your "sad worthless cent" back because its really doing nothing. :lol:

 

[Lifehouse]

i see i see, cheers :lol:

so what makes echoczar a good delay? Anyone try it before or just because of the price and what other people say else where.. 8)

Give me another 3 months when mine arrive and we can talk about how good it is. I think it will be better than my Ibanez Keeley AD-9. My friend bought an DD6, tried my AD-9 and promptly returned it and exchanged for a TS9-DX.

I have a DD2 which is considered one of the best digital delay around (Best digital delay is the Cornish DD-2 inspired delay for USD1500 if you really must know). MIJ blue label. People tell me how warm it is. I think AD-9 will eat it for breakfast with some more space for a 2nd helping.

 

[Lifehouse]

And so, can recommend any delay? Must say first, no echoczar, no analogman, no boss, no ibanez, no EH, etc.

Digitech Digidelay, Line 6 Echopark.

 

[Lifehouse]

I always take combat ration. Cuz no need to cook! Combat ration pasta > instant noodle. 8)

errrr, back when i was a chao soldier, the combat ration can throw and kill someone. Dont have pasta though 8) :lol: :wink:

Look on bright side la. Progress package more than me can go buy gears.

 

[brundisium]

haha, ok, i take back my sad worthless cent if you insist :lol:

and yes, i do know there are softies goint to try out/buy all those stuff, you also, right. I can see :lol:

have fun then, try out more of those "boutique" different stuff and let us know, ok. How it differ from the rest, of the other boutique stuff :lol:

*tears rolled keeping back my sad worthless cent* :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Lifehouse]

Well, I don't have any boutique effects. Only high end production effects pedal. :smt003

 

[ShredCow]

hmmm... I need a wah, with TB. The Morley Bad Horsie 2's buffer is getting in the way now... its a good buffer since it doesn't really alter pedal dynamics/introduce compression, but transparent, no...

Am thinking of trying out the RMC wahs when MrMisse brings them in maybe 2 weeks time.

Anyone has any other recommendations? Fulltone Cylde Deluxe sounded great but i have to hijack Edo's pedal for a more thorough test drive... hmmm...

 

[Lifehouse]

Hmm.

Budda Wah? Area 51 wah? HBE? Silver Medicine?

IMO, RMC and Fulltone are one the best wahs around. RMC sounds better, Fulltone sounds almost as good, but, Fulltone has a longer throw range so depends on your preference, it might be a pro or a con.

 

[ShredCow]

The Area51 retrofit looks great. Not too expensive too. Hmmmm...

Shall check out the RMC wah @ Mrmisse first.. The throw , well, I prefer a longer throw.

There's a Keeley Crybaby @ G77. Didn't agree with it though.

 

[popeye]

My friend bought an DD6, tried my AD-9 and promptly returned it and exchanged for a TS9-DX.

8O WOW!!!! someone bought a digital delay, tried an analogue delay, and finally settle for an overdrive?

Great man! i just know that an overdrive is better than digital delay. Newbie like me must learn a lot from you pro musician. I used to think those three type of pedals are 3 different animals.

 

[Lifehouse]

My friend bought an DD6, tried my AD-9 and promptly returned it and exchanged for a TS9-DX.

8O WOW!!!! someone bought a digital delay, tried an analogue delay, and finally settle for an overdrive?

Great man! i just know that an overdrive is better than digital delay. Newbie like me must learn a lot from you pro musician. I used to think those three type of pedals are 3 different animals.

He bought it at swee lee sales so there was no other delay for him to exchange for it since all were snapped up. I hope you wasnt trying to flame me. It was a piss poor effort.