give up normal music

amongst all those, there still are amazing lyricists. cant really give examples though. but jay-z and lil' wayne are amazing lyricists imo.

I think Snoop and Ludacris are still the best around. Saw 50cent's latest video and he's become one of THEM now. I still think the new age of rappers and 'gangstas' are full of sh*t. But that's just my opinion....
 
Any kind of music is fine with me if it's good. I just don't fancy techno and trance. I even listen to some Chinese pop artistes like Jay Chou and JJ Lin :D I think they write some really good songs.

Why did TS get banned?
 
I got the feeling that he got banned because of all the genre-bashing that began on this thread, but I get the impression that it wasn't his intention...

But to tell the truth I agree that some people are utterly ridiculous, saying that "only metal is music, everything else is crap", for example. Not just metalheads, some pop fans and rap fans think along those lines. I think that's very, very immature and childish. As I went through the thread, I have to admit I got very angry. And who wouldn't, when someone who doesn't listen to the music you like insults it and bashes it as 'not music'?

I enjoy a lot of metal, stuff like Nile and Cannibal Corpse, but it is that ridiculous way of thinking that is why I don't call myself a metalhead. No offence to anybody here but to sum it up, everyone has different musical tastes and I think it is childish to bash other genres as crap just because you don't enjoy that particular genre.

I know that others have mentioned what I just said, but I feel that this is something that needs to be emphasized because some people just don't get the point.
 
Why did TS get banned?

The TS didnt get banned for nothing. This is the same guy, nicholas bang/lostgod/mr forum/ the who. He went around deducting rep,insult and taunt softies. You can ask people like johnfrusciante, farhanians, b33r... I must say that the mods did a good job in banning people like him.
 
I realised the moment I listened to Eric Clapton. Was about 5 months ago la. Now I have a certain grudge against mainstream music nowadays about how they don't create music and are doing it for money. Used to like rap and pop, but now into blues rock and jazz.
 
For a start:

'pop' just means popular. Popular music isn't style-specific - it is simply the music that the majority of a specific demographic listen to.

If you go to Ibiza, dance music is pop. If you go to Poland/Eastern Europe, Heavy rock/Metal is pop.


There is no such thing as purely 'pop' music. Bullet For My Valentine are pop, but they aren't just pop.



RE Rap/Hip Hop music: this music is perfect as specific to the tempo of the music. Generally, as far as club music goes, the faster the tempo, the straighter the rhythm. You have to remember that the purpose of hip-hop/dance etc is that it is designed for dancing to. As examples of music to dance to, they are pretty spot on. Therefore, you can't say it is lacking in musical value.

RE 'proper' music - hip-hop music has very complex bass drum patterns, which are directly connected to the tempo of the music. Try working out the bass drum rhythm to music by, for example, MIMS.

Rap/Hip Hop is actually very complex. As a starter - dance music above 130 bpm - bass drum rhythm = pure crotchets ('four on the floor' e.g. Cascada). Dance music between 80 - 130 bpm - bass drum has quaver patterns (e.g. T-Pain); dance music under 80/90 bpm - bass drum has many semiquaver rhythms.


Most people comment on rap being unmusical or 'not true music' when the simple fact is they don't understand it, or have never studied it. Some of the most difficult, syncopated rhythms can be found in rap music.

And if you consider sampling to be unmusical, then just listen to Aoki Takamasa, or I am Robot and Proud.

Or Aphex Twin.



PS before you think i'm anti-rock music, i'm a guitarist. I'm just not an ignorant guitarist.

You'll probably find that most professional musicians aren't dismissive of any style of music, as they all know that good music, no matter what style, requires effort and originality.
 
i like hip hop....the very earliest music i liked as a really really young kid was rap music. mc hammer, vanilla ice, naughty by nature, etc. those guys had so much attitude and swagger!
 
you have no right to say what is real music and what is not real music based on your personal preferences..i remembered when i used to love hip-hop. i didn't like people saying that it wasn't real music because it IS. like-wise i'm not a fan of metal but i don't call it trash either.
 
I don't understand this thread. How do you differentiate real music from crap(????) music? And what IS your defination of crap music?
 
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