Gracia
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Murdered by what? A bed of razors?
Fall Out Boy Covers Pantera's Walk
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Murdered by what? A bed of razors?
optisailor2002
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rofl i dunno one of them kiddies ended up being the prime suspect.
fiqthefallen
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pirahnas...
optisailor2002
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there are some lines that should never be crossed.
PatheinRaindropMoe
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hehe, problem is when you are metal hard as graphite, yet seeing kuniang soft as new age sensitive guy singing tough, your metal hard as graphite heart of space age harden material feel insulted and hurt due to the fact that metal hard as graphite in the mind of supporters, is hard, cold, cool, underground, kylt, tr00 or simply belonging in thier space age harden material territory and shall not be step upon by kuniang soft as new age sensitive guy.
Once the line is cross, from kuniang soft as new age sensitive guy to metal hard as graphite heart of space age harden material, this is what happen, as seen in the thread.
While it is ok for metal hard as graphite heart of space age harden material to cover kuniang soft as new age sensitive guy(under the name of, "making fun of", "its for funny sake" etc blah blah blah), the idea of kuniang soft as new age sensitive guy to cover metal hard as graphite heart of space age harden mateiral is still considered a big NONO(not, i dont mean that taiwanese host, sidekick of jacky wu, NONO) I mean big NO NO. As we can see from this thread again.
So, are the metalhead in here, metal hard as graphite heart of space age harden material or metal hard as my rod errr sorry, i will take back that... i mean metal hard as graphite heart of space age harden material but with a kuniang soft like new age sensitive guy mind and touch?
Once the line is cross, from kuniang soft as new age sensitive guy to metal hard as graphite heart of space age harden material, this is what happen, as seen in the thread.
While it is ok for metal hard as graphite heart of space age harden material to cover kuniang soft as new age sensitive guy(under the name of, "making fun of", "its for funny sake" etc blah blah blah), the idea of kuniang soft as new age sensitive guy to cover metal hard as graphite heart of space age harden mateiral is still considered a big NONO(not, i dont mean that taiwanese host, sidekick of jacky wu, NONO) I mean big NO NO. As we can see from this thread again.
So, are the metalhead in here, metal hard as graphite heart of space age harden material or metal hard as my rod errr sorry, i will take back that... i mean metal hard as graphite heart of space age harden material but with a kuniang soft like new age sensitive guy mind and touch?
optisailor2002
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metalheads (esp "tr00 kvlt metalheads") are very close minded people and mostly elitists. so a emo band such as fall out gay covering a legend's song such as pantera's walk, is equivalent to blasphemy. its like going to dimebag's grave, digging up his body, playing a shitty version of his song, and then throwing him back into his grave to let his body rot again. ie murdering him again. =D
optisailor2002
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think manybands start out as cover bands as well before they get comfortable with what style of music they wanna play then they write their own song. i dunno haha i dont have a band =/
I always ask myself if I can dream of things I never seen?
Can I hate things that I never knew?
So far, the answer is "No".
Well, for those who dislike FOB so much, they must have gotten really familiar with them somehow. Either listening to lots of their music or reading way too much about them on the net.
Is this true?
Can I hate things that I never knew?
So far, the answer is "No".
Well, for those who dislike FOB so much, they must have gotten really familiar with them somehow. Either listening to lots of their music or reading way too much about them on the net.
Is this true?
trianglebiscuit
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yes, closet fans, most of them
optisailor2002
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soft
haha i would agree with you that i cant dream of things that i have never seen. i was in fact once a listener of FOB so you cant say that i dont know FOB at all. unlike most haters, i was once a fan of the emo/punk pop genre before i started listening to metal so i know what i am talking about. i also realised the big difference in talent required in playing different genres are cos i was once a fan of emo/punk pop and now a fan of metal.
im not gonna deny that other genres require talent as well, such as bands like FOB, MCR and such bands require talent to write catchy tunes/lyrics in order to attract the mainstream listeners. but i appreciate technical talents over such talents cos at the end of the day, you realise that such bands rely on lyrics revolving around the same topic to write their "top-of-the-charts" hits, while technical talent involves more creativity.
haha i would agree with you that i cant dream of things that i have never seen. i was in fact once a listener of FOB so you cant say that i dont know FOB at all. unlike most haters, i was once a fan of the emo/punk pop genre before i started listening to metal so i know what i am talking about. i also realised the big difference in talent required in playing different genres are cos i was once a fan of emo/punk pop and now a fan of metal.
im not gonna deny that other genres require talent as well, such as bands like FOB, MCR and such bands require talent to write catchy tunes/lyrics in order to attract the mainstream listeners. but i appreciate technical talents over such talents cos at the end of the day, you realise that such bands rely on lyrics revolving around the same topic to write their "top-of-the-charts" hits, while technical talent involves more creativity.
fiqthefallen
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i tend to agree...
i think what opti pointed out was that you have to like em before you hate em.
no wonder why (ex)fans like to use the word "sell out" on bands they use to like...
i think what opti pointed out was that you have to like em before you hate em.
no wonder why (ex)fans like to use the word "sell out" on bands they use to like...
optisailor2002
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fiqthefallen
like how metallica fans screamed "sell out" after the black album. haha. but thats a different case cos metallica indeed sold out when they decide to change their style to a more mainstream/hard rock.
the thing about FOB and bands like them is that tastes change and when you begin to appreciate other talents besides writing catchy lyrics and tunes are more important in music, you will kinda start to hate them. i dunno just my opinion haha.
like how metallica fans screamed "sell out" after the black album. haha. but thats a different case cos metallica indeed sold out when they decide to change their style to a more mainstream/hard rock.
the thing about FOB and bands like them is that tastes change and when you begin to appreciate other talents besides writing catchy lyrics and tunes are more important in music, you will kinda start to hate them. i dunno just my opinion haha.
But the only thing that is constant is change. Nothing can stay the same forever.
We grow everyday, we change everyday.
If my performance is eating chicken rice, after doing it for 1 year, I might start to dislike it. So, when I change my performance to eating duck rice, my fans will hate me?
It is really hard to make a living. :mrgreen:
We grow everyday, we change everyday.
If my performance is eating chicken rice, after doing it for 1 year, I might start to dislike it. So, when I change my performance to eating duck rice, my fans will hate me?
It is really hard to make a living. :mrgreen:
optisailor2002
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hmm using that analogy, while chicken rice fans and duck rice haters will start to hate you, you gain new fans also! eg like the fans of that duck rice stall start seeing your performance of eating duck rice, they will turn to you and start being your fans!
so while a change in musical direction might cause bands to lose fans, they will gain some along the way, and who knows, they might even get bigger. eg. Avenged Sevenfold. started off as a metalcore band (used to be a fan of them when i was into metalcore), then they decide to turn mainstream and as M. Shadows once stated, "we want to write music that people like to hear" (aka sell out), they changed their style to a more mainstream metal/rock style. and while this has caused metalcore fans to shun them, they have gained many more fans in the mainstream.
so actually its not really hard making a living. it just depends on how you view your fans. you want your original core fanbase or do you wanna gain new fans with a new musical style but risk losing your original fans?
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TheCrimson
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soft
It is 100% alright for a band to change and evolve. It is however indefinitely hurting to their fans when they evolve, leaving their true essence behind.
Take Iron Maiden for example.
They have evolved musically in one of the most complex and revolutionary ways in heavy metal since the 80's, and yet have not lost the main Rock N Roll, Metal spirit that drives them.
Their fan base? Still as strong as ever.
Band evolution is fine, selling out to make money isn't.
It is 100% alright for a band to change and evolve. It is however indefinitely hurting to their fans when they evolve, leaving their true essence behind.
Take Iron Maiden for example.
They have evolved musically in one of the most complex and revolutionary ways in heavy metal since the 80's, and yet have not lost the main Rock N Roll, Metal spirit that drives them.
Their fan base? Still as strong as ever.
Band evolution is fine, selling out to make money isn't.
optisailor2002
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lol heavy metal --> prog influenced heavy metal.
well maiden had their share of down time too. eg blaze bayley period and the period without adrian smith.
there are 2 kinds of fans btw, one is fans of the band's music, the other is just plainly fans of the bands. i would say that i am the former cos when a band changes into a style i dislike, i generally lose interest in that band and only listen to the era that i like. eg maiden's first few albums and later albums.
well maiden had their share of down time too. eg blaze bayley period and the period without adrian smith.
there are 2 kinds of fans btw, one is fans of the band's music, the other is just plainly fans of the bands. i would say that i am the former cos when a band changes into a style i dislike, i generally lose interest in that band and only listen to the era that i like. eg maiden's first few albums and later albums.
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TheCrimson
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Aye true man haha..
They bounced back though eh?
Maiden without Adrian Smith is like a swimming pool without water!
They bounced back though eh?
Maiden without Adrian Smith is like a swimming pool without water!