Do Singapore Vocalist Suck?

I am not talking about costs, I am talking about Taufik's cut from it.

And if the ad manager or 7-11 honestly believes spending that amount of money on such an ad is going to increase revenue in ANY WAY, that speaks large amounts of whatever little IQ he has.

In any case, in my eyes Taufik/Hady has not made it and will not make it if they continue the way they do.

I don't know what kind of educational qualifications you have but I am pretty certain it's not a marketing degree.

Companies and brands do conduct actual studies to determine the impact on certain marketing strategies, and going by the fact that Taufik Batisah has been used by 7-11 more than once in their advertising campaigns, plus the fact that numerous other brands like I mentioned have engaged him to be their product representative, is concrete proof that Taufik is a popular figure with people of all ages.

And you have to understand that the objectives of advertisements are not just to increase revenue, but to stay constantly exposed to the consumers. Just like a saying by Warren Buffet that goes something like 'a business which does not aim to occupy the hearts and minds of people, is a business that will not last'.

In other words, constant brand exposure is just part of the plan to maintain the market standing, which is critical in staying alive in a business in order to generate revenue and create profits for its shareholders.

Oh well. I guess from your S$300, ad manager and increase revenue points, I deduce that you don't know much about the business anyway.

BUT hey, we've already agreed that there isn't much demand for English language singers or bands here in Singapore, thus the relative non-success, that Taufik Batisah and Hady Mirza have 'not made it' in your view.

My honest view about this is precisely because of that, that recording companies are not pumping much money to gather the best song-writers, music producers and marketing companies to push these artistes.

We all keep forgetting that most of the time, the successful singers and bands which have stayed a long while since their introduction, are all but products borne, conceptualized and marketed by various people, and rarely by just their talent alone.

:cool:
 
my bands have never auditioned singers, or any other position for that matter. we only invite people who we know can do the job. since jamming and performing is also a social activity, we usually prefer people who we know.

when you audition for singers, consider the fact that you are very likely to attract singers who are currently without a band. think of all the reasons why this could be.
 
"When you audition for singers, consider the fact that you are very likely to attract singers who are currently without a band. think of all the reasons why this could be."


What Shinobi said makes a lot of sense! I mean, if they're currently not singing within a band, doesn't that tell you something already?

Although I must also say that there are (although it's the minority) some fairly good vocalists that are without a band.
 
hahaha oh my god its dear tim098 again. dood, like seriously, how many threads are you gonna spoil, and how many times are you gonna be left eating your own words again, till you actually stop it, for _______(whoever you worship)'s sake?
 
I thought this thread was to talk about whether or not Singapore vocalists "suck"? :rolleyes:

Evidently, this thread has become a talking point about the credibility & post-Singapore Idol success of Taufik Batisah & Hady Mirza respectively.

Hmmm......
 
As much as I am a metal fan, I appreciate the vocal talents of certain pop stars like JJ lin and Steph Sun.

2 videos to make you shut up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjbJ-NYsUqM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXdN8Wjy4rE


just because you hate the word 'pop', doesn't mean that they aren't any good. It is closed minds that aren't any good.

Thank you for sharing those vids Vaiyen. I love and grew up with bands like GN'R, Skid Row and Motley Crue but I do appreciate local artistes like JJ Lin too. I think his vocals rock.
 
mr tim098,

firstly, u do not shoot whatever u have in ur mind..

ive been hanging out with people at mediacorp, doing sessions with them..
and yeah,we talked abt hady, we talked abt taufik,etc..
i learnt a lot abt local artistes from them..

do u know how much did they paid taufik to sing a single song on a show?
its 5-digits..
he has his own expectations and people still want him in their shows..

do u know what car he drives now?
check it out urself,and u'll be damn surprised..

do u know what kind of apartment he owns now?

and he is one of the best selling artiste here,dude..


and hady, he is the asian idol already..
and ur saying he has not make it yet?
hello?

if u think u can do better, we all would like to see u on spore idol man..or maybe,try selling ur album and see if u can even sell a hundred..
if u think u can do better, try asking 7-11 to use ur face for 300bux?

seriously man, with people like u spitting out things to bring ur countrymen down, u might as well shut up..


it is like, u scored an A for ur test, but ur parents still say ur not good enough and u shld get an A+..

Um, if you want to talk about property and cars and money defining whether someone is a good example of a singer who has made it, then I think MANY of us here in SG would fit the bill higher than him.

Why don't you do a survey on the Singaporean public, and ask them if they feel Taufik or Hady have made it in any way?

Because from basically everyone I know in person, NONE do.
 
how on earth do you define "made it" anyway?
By the short time that Taufik and Hady have been in the scene, it's surely natural that they havent "made it" yet.
Just think about how long superstars like Madonna and U2 have been around.
 
I think locals can sing too,just that they dont know the correct way of singing,thats why they singing is very "limited" in some way or so. Also i think is because how big our population is,thats why compare to countries like american and so,the chance of finding a good singer is like 1/10 in singapore
 
Um, if you want to talk about property and cars and money defining whether someone is a good example of a singer who has made it, then I think MANY of us here in SG would fit the bill higher than him.

Why don't you do a survey on the Singaporean public, and ask them if they feel Taufik or Hady have made it in any way?

Because from basically everyone I know in person, NONE do.

hi timothy john, would just like to say that in my opinion, you talk too much. you go about bashing hady and taufik, who, ironically are your fellow countrymen. whether or not they have made it, is up to an individual. personally, i would say they have made it, because to win a singapore idol competition, or the asian idol, for hady's case is a big milestone all by itself. i think if you wanna bash them both, then maybe you should try to be better than them. think you're capable of pulling it off? i would guess not.

and please, you mentioned "do a survey on the Singaporean public"... and "Because from basically everyone I know in person, NONE do"... i think this is totally dumb. unless you're telling me that the number of people you know is almost as many as the singaporean general public, then fine i'll shut up. but i dont think you know 4 million or more people. how can your "everyone i know in person" 's opinions compare to the general public's opinions? :rolleyes:

ponder over that man.
 
hi timothy john, would just like to say that in my opinion, you talk too much. you go about bashing hady and taufik, who, ironically are your fellow countrymen. whether or not they have made it, is up to an individual. personally, i would say they have made it, because to win a singapore idol competition, or the asian idol, for hady's case is a big milestone all by itself. i think if you wanna bash them both, then maybe you should try to be better than them. think you're capable of pulling it off? i would guess not.

Not this again..

I don't need to sell/cook chicken rice to know which stall sells the best one.
 
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