Do Singapore Vocalist Suck?

[Vocalistman]

This thread is very interesting, I mean considering vocal is my primary duty. I learnt a lot :mrgreen:

It's really depends on luck I guess, so what if you(TS) can get a good vox, but there's no chemistry in the band? Or sometimes, the vox just decided to leave i.e band-hop? It takes both side to compromise with each other IMO. Once you pass this stage, I think you'll pretty much have a decent band.

Coz I think audience don't just listens to how the band plays, but watches how the band mates bond and show chemistry. Nevermind the bad vox, but stage-wise, top-notch is better than sounds good, but looked dead on stage.. Just my cheap opinion though... Really about luck and fate to get that matching bandmates, this case vocalist.

 

[claire_p86]

steph sun? u must be joking..
jj lin? joking,definitely..

tanya chua n hady is great..

in my opinion, the first thing for u not to become sucky, is to know ur abilities..
if u cant sing,just shut up..
if u cant play, then shut up n listen..

dont sing songs u cant even reach,
dont sing songs with words u cant even pronounce,
like if there is '...steel..' in the song, pronounce it as steel, not steul..
or if there is '..feel..', pronounce it as feel, not feul..
u know what i mean..

bla bla bla...

Ummm... haven't you heard of the term 'artistic license'?

Anyway, if you've been around and listening to music long enough, I bet you that there are a lot of Western songs where the same set of words are pronounced differently in different parts of the same song.

The most common being "without you" which are sometimes pronounced as "withoutchew" and "without you" in the same song. A perfect example would be Mariah Carey's version of 'Without You'.

And if you are not aware too, a song produced in a record is not the sole product and creation of the singer. Most of the time, the music producer has a lot of creative input on how the written song is performed and finally recorded.

Besides, isn't singing subjective? It doesn't necessarily mean that if you can reach freakishly high notes, that you are a great singer.

A singer is after all, an entertainer, and he or she sometimes need to do different things at different times to project different emotions, to entertain the audience. And the audience can be made up of different people who have different expectations and characters ie. some are more visual, some care more about the connection, so on and so forth.

 

[vegecrackers]

steph sun? u must be joking..
jj lin? joking,definitely..

tanya chua n hady is great..

in my opinion, the first thing for u not to become sucky, is to know ur abilities..
if u cant sing,just shut up..
if u cant play, then shut up n listen..

dont sing songs u cant even reach,
dont sing songs with words u cant even pronounce,
like if there is '...steel..' in the song, pronounce it as steel, not steul..
or if there is '..feel..', pronounce it as feel, not feul..
u know what i mean..

there are a lot of things here to point out abt local singers,
and i suggest, look up for videos of jive talking..
they are a bunch of super great examples..

and please, practice the diction and phrasings..
or else, shut up..

hady is great? you're joking definately

 

[kongwee]

I've never heard of great vocalists who self-proclaimed to be one. In fact, the best are the most humble.

Humble is the one to survive in music scene.

 

[Likui]

Inch chua from allura she's 1 of my fav vocalist
what do you all think?

 

[tim098]

Humble is the one to survive in music scene.

Oh please, this is the confucian side of us asians speaking. The delusion that the 'humble, well-mannered, bring-home-to-your-parents' kind of people are the ones who eventually make it.

Complete delusion man.

Hady Mirza, Taufik Batisah, both seem to fit the above bill. One is appearing in 7-11 adverts, the other is a SG Idol host now. Speaks for itself.

Compare it to overseas, look at the vast majority of successful artists, rarely do their 'humbleness' shine through. Why do I even compare local artists to overseas artists? For the simple reason that I am not aware of a well known artist here who isn't eating humble pie for every single meal.

I say some attitude is just as important as all the other traditional aspects of being a good vocalist.

 

[futures]

The dumber the things you do, the more media coverage you get. And the day you decide to do things the right way, you get MORE media coverage. When you decide to go back to doing dumb things, you get EVEN MORE media coverage. Its an excellent marketing strategy.

 

[tim098]

The dumber the things you do, the more media coverage you get. And the day you decide to do things the right way, you get MORE media coverage. When you decide to go back to doing dumb things, you get EVEN MORE media coverage. Its an excellent marketing strategy.

Exactly, a good balance. Of course just as I believe a full-time humble person with absolutely ZERO arrogance won't make it, I don't think someone who is a 100% jerk who f-s everybody in his line of sight up is going to get too far either. But a jerk who suddenly shows a sensitive side once, that will increase his/her likeability by alot.

Little things like this matter, to me.

 

[Plastic]

i am the best vocalist.

 

[ryanfonts]

^ above post.

Win.

 

[claire_p86]

Oh please, this is the confucian side of us asians speaking. The delusion that the 'humble, well-mannered, bring-home-to-your-parents' kind of people are the ones who eventually make it.

Complete delusion man.

Hady Mirza, Taufik Batisah, both seem to fit the above bill. One is appearing in 7-11 adverts, the other is a SG Idol host now. Speaks for itself.

bla bla bla...

Uhmmm... what's wrong with getting paid thousands of dollars to appear in a 15 second advertisement?

So, clinching a string of lucrative endorsements for brands such as Harmuni Rice, Samsung, 7-Eleven stores, HSC drinks and becoming the first Singaporean artiste to endorse for the Swiss watch-maker Swatch, is not good meh?

Taufik has also clinched numerous awards in prestigious Malaysian music events leh. Just that you don't know only.

He's been doing well IMHO, just that there's not much support and market for Singaporeans singing in English.

Maybe because not that many people in Singapore speak English that well anyway.

 

[tim098]

He is getting paid thousands for that? Show me the solid evidence of such figures and I will eat my words.

Trust me, I think even those firms know that spending more than $300 on him showing his face beside their storefront isn't worth because no one on earth is going to increase their frequency of going to those places just because of low budget ads featuring his face.

Agree with your final statement though.

 

[amnesiac]

My friend who was 1st runner up for campus superstar got paid thousands of dollars literally to appear in a Marigold juice bustop ad.

 

[claire_p86]

He is getting paid thousands for that? Show me the solid evidence of such figures and I will eat my words.

Trust me, I think even those firms know that spending more than $300 on him showing his face beside their storefront isn't worth because no one on earth is going to increase their frequency of going to those places just because of low budget ads featuring his face.

bla bla bla...

The 7-11 brand is not some cockanaden local brand by some SME or start-up, mind you.

It is a worldwide brand originating from the US, and since March 2007, it is the largest chain store in any category, beating McDonald's by 1,000 stores. Its stores are located in eighteen countries, with its largest markets being Japan, the United States, Canada, Taiwan, and Thailand. (Facts borrowed from Wikipedia, of course )

In other words, it is a brand which cares about its image definitely.

S$300?! You MUST be kidding me.

1) The 7-11 ads do not only exist on television but on print ads (newspapers, storefront sticker ads, billboards etc) too.

2) Cost of buying maybe a week's worth of advertising space on television is easily about S$3k up, depending on the frequency and the times it's shown ie. primetime, day slot etc.

3) Cost of hiring production crew, producer and post-production easily cost S$5k up for a day's filming. Eg. a videocamera operator usually charges a minimum of about S$350 for half a day of filming. Then, what about hiring of photographer and DP artists to do up his print ads? Another few thousand dollars.

So, don't tell me Taufik's management charges S$300 for Taufik's time? Less than what the videocamera operator makes?

If that's the case, then whoever is managing him has an IQ of about 50.

 

[tim098]

I am not talking about costs, I am talking about Taufik's cut from it.

And if the ad manager or 7-11 honestly believes spending that amount of money on such an ad is going to increase revenue in ANY WAY, that speaks large amounts of whatever little IQ he has.

In any case, in my eyes Taufik/Hady has not made it and will not make it if they continue the way they do.

 

[soft]

I am not talking about costs, I am talking about Taufik's cut from it.

How much do you think it would cost to hire Taufik to appear in that 7-11 advertisement?

 

[halfastepdown]

What do you mean by "made it"?

I don't care what Singapore Idol means, but I think managing to WIN Singapore Idol surely means something.

 

[tim098]

I mean being out there, selling album after album.

Even for AMI, only Kelly Clarkson (i hope i spelt her name right) is the only true one that is living up to her billing as the 'American Idol'.

Is either Taufik or Hady you're HONEST definition and opinion and living example of a 'Singapore Idol' of the music scene? I don't know about you but IMO it's a no-brainer.

 

[rockassmonster]

I am not talking about costs, I am talking about Taufik's cut from it.

And if the ad manager or 7-11 honestly believes spending that amount of money on such an ad is going to increase revenue in ANY WAY, that speaks large amounts of whatever little IQ he has.

In any case, in my eyes Taufik/Hady has not made it and will not make it if they continue the way they do.

mr tim098,

firstly, u do not shoot whatever u have in ur mind..

ive been hanging out with people at mediacorp, doing sessions with them..
and yeah,we talked abt hady, we talked abt taufik,etc..
i learnt a lot abt local artistes from them..

do u know how much did they paid taufik to sing a single song on a show?
its 5-digits..
he has his own expectations and people still want him in their shows..

do u know what car he drives now?
check it out urself,and u'll be damn surprised..

do u know what kind of apartment he owns now?

and he is one of the best selling artiste here,dude..


and hady, he is the asian idol already..
and ur saying he has not make it yet?
hello?

if u think u can do better, we all would like to see u on spore idol man..or maybe,try selling ur album and see if u can even sell a hundred..
if u think u can do better, try asking 7-11 to use ur face for 300bux?

seriously man, with people like u spitting out things to bring ur countrymen down, u might as well shut up..


it is like, u scored an A for ur test, but ur parents still say ur not good enough and u shld get an A+..

 

[Vocalistman]

lol..As long as it is for commercial use, it's definitely a big-sum of money. Or better, 10% of sales revenues boosted from that advert itself?

My buddies shot a drama scene for Suria channel, just come once a week to make that 12 hours/1 hour long drama series we got paid for $3200..lol, of course we divide it among ourselves, mehh you still get $500 odds.. And it's not even for commercial intent. That's how much you earn in the entertainment industry nowadays