Bus/ MRT fares rising....

[PatheinRaindropMoe]

hahaha, even if they raise it to 4/5 dollars and we still have no ability or asset to run elsewhere, then just think about ways to make more $ instead :lol:

revolution in singapore means

1) Staying with parents under a roof where everything is paid for
2) Having too much time and paid internet access to forums
3) voicing out in the wrong place
4) fashioncore as if internetforumcore
5) being dangerous at certain time and back to reality as servant of the society when time is up

for smile only, not need to serious.. :lol:

 

[ahkiatt]

1/2 cents accumulated can make up for quite a bit of money though. say you take 3 rides a day. round it off to 5 cents. 5x 365 = bout twenty dollars a year! walk la singapore.

 

[MichaelAngelo]

if the increase is so little, i don't think there is a cause for alarm. after all, everytime i go to the petrol station, the price go up and down by more than $0.02.

what i am trying to say is, we cannot expect the bus company to absorb the increase in fuel price.

sorry to "quote", but anyway, im just thinking that for all the increases in prices for practically everything(one thing affects another), our salaries should be rising in proportion too..to cope with the shrinking value of every dollar we have in our pockets. Instead, they initiated this outsourcing crap and people end up having to:
1. fight for jobs with foreigners, and
2. contend with an unstable position(after contract ends, one might not be rehired)
3. because of the change in trend of hiring workers...after an "older" worker(45 n up) is done with a contract/retrenched as a result of outsourcing implementation, many of them cant get jobs

therefore i think that their scheme to squeeze more money from the people is a very narrow sighted one, and will result in people losing their faith in the leaders who introduce such schemes..YES bosses will earn many money and spend less from doing such a thing, but most people paying taxes n contributing CPF are...the peasants...

***sorry if my views are flawed..im just an 18 year old kid who reads the newspapers n hears the plights of taxi drivers/outsoucing victims and have responded with these thoughts

 

[killinghall]

Increases were expected by the masses before and after the election. To quote a blog: "....Dear Leader is angry with the masses for giving his dictatorship a poor mandate of only 66%..."

So this...unfortunately is the people's punishment.

 

[soft]

MichaelAngelo, do you have a mobile phone? how much is your bill average?

what i am trying to say is, we tend to complain about these 'little' things when we actually spend/waste much more elsewhere.

we can go on and on talking about it but my stand is "no on owes you a living, you got to strive for it".

1. just 1 generation ago, my grandfather was the "foreigner" who came from China. he worked really hard to make ends meet. i am just glad i do not have to do all the hard work that he went through.

2. look at the world around us, i am just glad i do not have to fight/kill to be alive or have food for tomorrow.

3. i heard some of the 'lift-lady' in Japan/Taiwan are graduates. imagine what our graduates will do if they are in those situation.

 

[MichaelAngelo]

thanks for the other point of view soft, i guess u are right too. I better be glad that i can complain about what food i want to eat... nevertheless, i feel that stress levels are rising as the pressure to strive harder to be competent increases. Wonder if this hike in stress levels will one day hit a plateau..we need a break! lol

 

[detroit_red]

what i am trying to say is, we tend to complain about these 'little' things when we actually spend/waste much more elsewhere..

What you say makes sense, ive not once not feel a great sense of gratefulness for being born into a country such as singapore. But to follow laws without questioning or at least understanding why they are based on is quite foolish if you ask me.

 

[soft]

by all means question but make sure you have done the research. when you want to question others, be prepared to be questioned.

 

[thor666]

3. i heard some of the 'lift-lady' in Japan/Taiwan are graduates. imagine what our graduates will do if they are in those situation.

Rumor has it that one of the NUS business canteen shopowner is a former NUS graduate. And some graduate was reported to be selling chicken rice a few years ago. :lol:

In any case, I think the bus/mrt fare rise is not too much. I think other issues deserve more attention than the bus/mrt fare rise.

 

[subversion]

In any case, I think the bus/mrt fare rise is not too much. I think other issues deserve more attention than the bus/mrt fare rise.

regardless of the amount, it goes to show that such companies do not have the people's interest in mind, primarily. it's all about the $$$...

 

[edder]

soft bro,

I totally agree with you.

There's a price to pay for efficiency and for the price paid, Singaporeans are a darned lucky lot compared to their neighbours.

From where I come from, bus services is on half hour basis from housing estate to town. Non aircon. OMO. Ticket stub. 1/2 sponge seat with PVC covers. Often with tears. Bumpy ride. A camel might be even more comfortable.

Of course we must compare ourselves to developed countries. Go check out the prices of public transport in other developed countries. Go check out their taxes.

Complain must complain, if not complacent but hor, complain must do some self searching rather than "fist up in the air, militant, revolutionary style".

 

[PatheinRaindropMoe]

have the interest of people at heart? For what. Do they owe the people anything :lol:

How about going straight to LTA(when they werent even called LTA back then) on why they wanna built the system in the first place and in years to come, to let the PTC agree on and the operator of the public transport to ask for increment of fare each year

 

[PatheinRaindropMoe]

sometime when we are outside, its hard to look at the inside or even have any chance to see whats happening in there and just gotten carried away by the outside and explode

 

[Mobius]

3. i heard some of the 'lift-lady' in Japan/Taiwan are graduates. imagine what our graduates will do if they are in those situation.

Rumor has it that one of the NUS business canteen shopowner is a former NUS graduate. And some graduate was reported to be selling chicken rice a few years ago. :lol:

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I guess some of them gets disillusioned after finishing their degree courses. Thats what happen to most of my cohort, most of them are not doing what they majored in.

 

[edder]

truth is MANY do not what they majored in.

In general, it is just very important piece of paper to get you started somewhere in life.

 

[fgl]

Next ... I'm sure will be ciggies price increase ..... :x

 

[thor666]

regardless of the amount, it goes to show that such companies do not have the people's interest in mind, primarily. it's all about the $$$...

My opinion is still that public services and non-profit organizations should not be run like a business organization. When the shareholders are not the users but rather private individuals, there is a conflict of interest. Of course one can argue that the private sectors all work this way, but one must consider that most of these public services and non-profit organizations exist as a monopoly/duopoly/oligopoly and they do not have to ensure a minimum level of interest to the users.

I'm not particularly convinced that oil costs are the dominating factor to raising fares, since

1. SMRT/SBS have supposedly been hedging against oil prices (http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showpost.php?p=19622013&postcount=5, unverified)

2. Both companies have still been churning in decent profits.


If anything, the real reason probably is 1. more profits. 2. fear of the unstable situation in the Middle East, which may drive up oil prices on a long term basis (beyond the price hedge).

 

[PatheinRaindropMoe]

now thats a sensible post! Potatoes to thor

 

[rottenramone]

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agree with thor666

sbs is still turning a healthy profit.

 

[subversion]

My opinion is still that public services and non-profit organizations should not be run like a business organization.

+1

however, on grounds of efficiency, the government has deemed it necessary for these companies to engage in profiteering. in a developed economy, like the one here, the government is doing away with protectionism (i'm beginning to sound like an Econs lecturer) in phases, just like the occurrences in the telco sector.

on another note, there are some of us here who wish for an authority who would, in times of need, absorb certain costs in order to emphatize with the plight of the people- it won't happen anytime soon, that's for sure...