What happen to the Winners of School of Rock?
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was just wondering...mayb can be a new topic here
is locals accepting the metal scene?
i find that it's really hard to get thru competition if your band is growling and screaming on stage, chugging some insane noise pollution thing out of the amps. (i don't mean metallica, iron maiden kind of stuff. but rather lamb of god, kataklysm, as i lay dying, cannibal corpse etc etc)
one of powerjam rules, no death metal allowed.
i feel, once they hear some noise they get turn off even before judging their skills and stuff...
they should have metalheads as one of their judges too?
what's your view on this?
is locals accepting the metal scene?
i find that it's really hard to get thru competition if your band is growling and screaming on stage, chugging some insane noise pollution thing out of the amps. (i don't mean metallica, iron maiden kind of stuff. but rather lamb of god, kataklysm, as i lay dying, cannibal corpse etc etc)
one of powerjam rules, no death metal allowed.
i feel, once they hear some noise they get turn off even before judging their skills and stuff...
they should have metalheads as one of their judges too?
what's your view on this?
the metal scene has way more talent than you can even think of.
and 1 more thing about competitions that disallow death metal.
a quote from a friend of mine, "F*** ANY STUPID COMPETITION THAT DOESNT ALLOW DEATH METAL!"
pls ppl, be open. death metal is more than having throats kind of vocals and heavy riffing.
and 1 more thing about competitions that disallow death metal.
a quote from a friend of mine, "F*** ANY STUPID COMPETITION THAT DOESNT ALLOW DEATH METAL!"
pls ppl, be open. death metal is more than having throats kind of vocals and heavy riffing.
i'm a metalhead myself and i hope that metal scene really gets out more than it does now. maybe radio station should start playing soem cannibal corpse and soon there will be more metalheads in singapore.
the problem is....they are not exposed to metal shit thus disliking it?
last time i was into rock. i first hate lamb of god and was totally disgust by it.
1 year later, i become more METAL wahahaha
and listen to more and more stuff and then i realise i actually listened to and dislike lamb of god one year ago lol
IMO, those recording label are not willing to accept metal bands is because the reponse from the public is going to be bad. thus wasting the time/money and effort in that band? rather they go for rock or solo singers which appeal more to the public.
the problem is....they are not exposed to metal shit thus disliking it?
last time i was into rock. i first hate lamb of god and was totally disgust by it.
1 year later, i become more METAL wahahaha
and listen to more and more stuff and then i realise i actually listened to and dislike lamb of god one year ago lol
IMO, those recording label are not willing to accept metal bands is because the reponse from the public is going to be bad. thus wasting the time/money and effort in that band? rather they go for rock or solo singers which appeal more to the public.
my friend told me that chris ho quoted in the papers. the word in alternative is just a lie. a lie for money and not for real music. and metal will be the last genre from the underground scene to rise.
wa how i wish the scene in singapore is like those of the scandanavians(pardon spelling error). or what about canada's metal scene. or florida. what the heck even malaysia, indo, thai!
singaporeans are too close, too narrow open minded. maybe cannibal corpse's too brutal. start of with something simple in singapore, like good old pantera. or slayer even. nobody's asking you singapore, to listen to likes of cannibal corpose, nile etc etc. at least not yet.
what kinds of genre has so many things fused into 1. jazz, electronica and sorts has been fused into metal. you dont see those in alternative music dont you?
wa how i wish the scene in singapore is like those of the scandanavians(pardon spelling error). or what about canada's metal scene. or florida. what the heck even malaysia, indo, thai!
singaporeans are too close, too narrow open minded. maybe cannibal corpse's too brutal. start of with something simple in singapore, like good old pantera. or slayer even. nobody's asking you singapore, to listen to likes of cannibal corpose, nile etc etc. at least not yet.
what kinds of genre has so many things fused into 1. jazz, electronica and sorts has been fused into metal. you dont see those in alternative music dont you?
)...i didnt even make a single cents profit man...dont degrade me until like that lah...i also got feelings...HeartRockSingapore
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I'm not sure whether I am right to say this....
promote metal music and not metal scene. What I meant by that is, promote first the possibilty of multi-genre acceptance by the general public, than more ppl will get to know and appreciate metal music.
But if you want the general public to appreciate metal scene, sorry..they don't belong and will not feel belong anyway.
Correct me if I am wrong.
promote metal music and not metal scene. What I meant by that is, promote first the possibilty of multi-genre acceptance by the general public, than more ppl will get to know and appreciate metal music.
But if you want the general public to appreciate metal scene, sorry..they don't belong and will not feel belong anyway.
Correct me if I am wrong.
teraslasch
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i agree
ilovejaimestewart
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forgive the ignorance, but whats wrong with the "metal scene" ?
Maybe if Slayer is called Blink 182 and Cradle Of Filth is called Simple Plan.... There might be a chance....
I have to agree with Mr HeartRockSingapore... Its truly difficult to bring up a scene such as metal in singapore... So maybe a suggestion, metal bands should start promoting their music by joining gigs such as the Singapore Street Fest, those kinda stuff or even with HeartRock Singapore... Start promoting then the public would soon learn to accept it....
There was this bands in the finalz of School Of Rock, hmm not sure if the spellin is correct Dotamongha, they play real metal stuff and while ppl juz rocked to punk and alternative. Others were headbangin to their music, but too bad no moshpit.... dam it!.....
I have to agree with Mr HeartRockSingapore... Its truly difficult to bring up a scene such as metal in singapore... So maybe a suggestion, metal bands should start promoting their music by joining gigs such as the Singapore Street Fest, those kinda stuff or even with HeartRock Singapore... Start promoting then the public would soon learn to accept it....
There was this bands in the finalz of School Of Rock, hmm not sure if the spellin is correct Dotamongha, they play real metal stuff and while ppl juz rocked to punk and alternative. Others were headbangin to their music, but too bad no moshpit.... dam it!.....
HeartRockSingapore said:
My personal opinion, is that segregation in this instant is healthy. Even in the west, it's very difficult to mix genre of extreme ends in the same event. In big national awards show, metal bands are almost always made to play in an enviornment totally uncomfortable to them.
I mean, the entire setting from the stage to the audience is also different from a pop or jazz set to a metal one. If mixed, the focus is lost, everything will look very messy. Cross-genre fan brawl will become a big headache.
I am a hugh fan of metal music myself, but every genre have it's own place. So for it to have it's own scene, is very logical.
Locally, metal in recent years has gone underground. Thus efforts so far are mainly underground. And the seperation of sub-genre makes a even more divided community.
Mainstream competitions not allowing metal is totally understandable, in the first place, finding credible judges will be headache. Organising the whole thing will be nightmarish too.
IMO, multi-genre acceptance by the general public is NOT a realistic goal. People will find offence to be force to accept something "not their cup of tea". We should be more focused in what we do and who we target as our subscriber.
serialninja
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caution, long post. apologies in advance.
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1) i've been friends with the fellas from 3dash1 for quite some time now, and i say this in complete honesty: they're still the same guys they used to be. probably even more humble now than they were before winning school of rock. part of why they may have to pull out of certain events or do certain things a certain way is because they're under Music and Movement's management. so as a general rule that applies to everyone, please get to know the guys first before making a judgement about their ego or character.
2) it's always fun to see technical elitists and songwriting supporters arguing about which one is "better". metalheads and shredders vs punk/alt/indie/brit rockers vs experimental bands. it's all very polarized.
for once i'd like to see people who make music of different genres come together and support each other as musicians, rather than try and put others down.
you might not know this about WGB's music but if you catch us live and listen to certain things, you'll recognize obvious influences in technique and chord work from metalcore, classical music, jazz, jam rock, and alternative. these are genres we enjoy playing and listening to. (Jude, WGB's bassist, plays some pretty uncomplicated stuff, but when he's at home playing his guitar, he plays metal so crazy that it boggles my mind.) so it's not the case that alternative bands aren't able to play metal, or that they don't like metal, nor is it the case that people who play metal don't appreciate playing chilled out music like Jack Johnson or alternative music like Motion City Soundtrack.
music isn't, and shouldn't be, that polarized.
there will always be bands that aren't hugely popular, because they're difficult to appreciate. bands like Between The Buried And Me, for example. amazing band, incredible technique, very complex songwriting, but difficult to appreciate for the average listener. a lot of the time, metal falls into this category. it's not the metal band's fault for appreciating and playing it, and it's not the audience's fault for being unable to appreciate it, because it's inherently difficult to appreciate. it doesn't give those who appreciate it the right to musical elitism though, nor does it give those who can't yet appreciate it the right to bash it.
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1) i've been friends with the fellas from 3dash1 for quite some time now, and i say this in complete honesty: they're still the same guys they used to be. probably even more humble now than they were before winning school of rock. part of why they may have to pull out of certain events or do certain things a certain way is because they're under Music and Movement's management. so as a general rule that applies to everyone, please get to know the guys first before making a judgement about their ego or character.
2) it's always fun to see technical elitists and songwriting supporters arguing about which one is "better". metalheads and shredders vs punk/alt/indie/brit rockers vs experimental bands. it's all very polarized.
for once i'd like to see people who make music of different genres come together and support each other as musicians, rather than try and put others down.
you might not know this about WGB's music but if you catch us live and listen to certain things, you'll recognize obvious influences in technique and chord work from metalcore, classical music, jazz, jam rock, and alternative. these are genres we enjoy playing and listening to. (Jude, WGB's bassist, plays some pretty uncomplicated stuff, but when he's at home playing his guitar, he plays metal so crazy that it boggles my mind.) so it's not the case that alternative bands aren't able to play metal, or that they don't like metal, nor is it the case that people who play metal don't appreciate playing chilled out music like Jack Johnson or alternative music like Motion City Soundtrack.
music isn't, and shouldn't be, that polarized.
there will always be bands that aren't hugely popular, because they're difficult to appreciate. bands like Between The Buried And Me, for example. amazing band, incredible technique, very complex songwriting, but difficult to appreciate for the average listener. a lot of the time, metal falls into this category. it's not the metal band's fault for appreciating and playing it, and it's not the audience's fault for being unable to appreciate it, because it's inherently difficult to appreciate. it doesn't give those who appreciate it the right to musical elitism though, nor does it give those who can't yet appreciate it the right to bash it.
I think many pple (general public in fact) don't like to listen to too heavy stuff like metal...they feel it's noisy.. this fact just has to be accepted. Most people want stuff that they can sing along with. Which is why metal in singapore quite dificult la, coz organisers dun wan to lose money.
I do listen from time to time but not really into it. Metal arrangements are solid though.
Pier.
I do listen from time to time but not really into it. Metal arrangements are solid though.
Pier.
Singapore. Is all abt money. Dominated by the chinese (mostly), nothing racial here, bt statistics (genuine newspaper reports) show tht chinese ppl r more inclined n interested in aquiring a life full of money, savings, investments, education etc. Ofcourse thtz a gd thing. Bt when all u think is abt money, this is what happens.
i agree with serial ninja and i am not saying that 3dash1 is bad i'm just stating that in singapore good = commerciality......that is why 3dash1 wins......the band damohago i can't remember the spelling.....let's say punk rock never existed and we did a school of rock where metal is the norm and a punk band comes in........it would receive the same treatment of being neglected because it is not following the norm........
but music is about doing what you like.....i'm sure all the bands in school of rock love what they do......but to make a fair comparision in terms of technique and showsmanship is not possible by just having 1 competition where i can safely say that the aim is to have a band that is popular....
no doubt punk rock and all appeals to kids these days.....let's say they let the damahgo or what win the competition do you think that it will have better commercial results than 3dash1 i can safely say no.......same reason with good charlotte simple plan......
the point that i'm trying to bring over is commercial viability does not mean that you're good........rather you have the potential to sell........can F4 sing?
but they can sure as hell sell a lot of albums
but music is about doing what you like.....i'm sure all the bands in school of rock love what they do......but to make a fair comparision in terms of technique and showsmanship is not possible by just having 1 competition where i can safely say that the aim is to have a band that is popular....
no doubt punk rock and all appeals to kids these days.....let's say they let the damahgo or what win the competition do you think that it will have better commercial results than 3dash1 i can safely say no.......same reason with good charlotte simple plan......
the point that i'm trying to bring over is commercial viability does not mean that you're good........rather you have the potential to sell........can F4 sing?
but they can sure as hell sell a lot of albums
serialninja
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Anubitsch said:
show me a country that isn't dominated by money.
there isn't one. that's why this sort of thing happens everywhere. it has nothing to do with the country we live in, or the dominant race, or the religion or anything. it's simple economics of survival. the bottom line for every country is money.
Nono thtz not what im tryinna say. If u look at it in a different way, u'll c the difference between a few countries like singapore and the rest of the world. U dont get my point. Its hard to get my point. As i said, the mindset of asian race is different. Music may nt b at the top of goals set in life. And theres also the case of the west not accepting asians as gd n able contributors.
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