The Bassist's Effects Line Up
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rottenramone
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wah, do u bring the multicart ard?
shinobi
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so far no man, but there was once when i wished i had it, which was the main reason why i got it.
there was once i was playing a pretty important gig. long story short, shit happens (as early as the previous gig about 2 weeks before) and i wanted to bring insurance. i was using one of those flimsy old skool trolleys, and although the journey was merely from my drummer's car to the stage, it was like 50 metres of hell.
risked damaging my equipment (which was at the time relatively new). and that's why i eventually bought the trolley. but so far no action
but the multicart itself is freaking heavy
there was once i was playing a pretty important gig. long story short, shit happens (as early as the previous gig about 2 weeks before) and i wanted to bring insurance. i was using one of those flimsy old skool trolleys, and although the journey was merely from my drummer's car to the stage, it was like 50 metres of hell.
risked damaging my equipment (which was at the time relatively new). and that's why i eventually bought the trolley. but so far no action
but the multicart itself is freaking heavy
i am assuming you're transporting amp and cab? if that's the case, does the venue provide amps and cabs? why do you have to bring your own, it's pretty troublesome right?
(pardon me for noob question, because i have absolutely no experience in gigs, and dont' know how equipment arrangements are like normally for gigs.)
shinobi
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venue amps and cabs usually suck (or at least at the gigs tha i get to play in), but usually that isn't much of a problem. but by 'shit happens' i meant that sometimes the amp OR cab OR both would be SPOILT... it happened in a gig just one or 2 weeks before. fortunately one of the bassists from another band in that gig brought his own amp. we were all saved.
anyway i believe it's standard practice in angmoh lands for the musicians to bring their own rig to a gig :shock: even those pathetic opening acts for concerts have to bring their own backline, and the headline act will usually not let anyone touch their stuff (it belongs to them anyway). it's just that in singapore... venues are kind... and real musicians are rare (maybe it's partly due to the fact that the bass amp and cab selection in singapore sucks)
but it's easy for me to say... because i actually have a rig :mrgreen:
anyway i believe it's standard practice in angmoh lands for the musicians to bring their own rig to a gig :shock: even those pathetic opening acts for concerts have to bring their own backline, and the headline act will usually not let anyone touch their stuff (it belongs to them anyway). it's just that in singapore... venues are kind... and real musicians are rare (maybe it's partly due to the fact that the bass amp and cab selection in singapore sucks)
but it's easy for me to say... because i actually have a rig :mrgreen:
rottenramone
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so how do u get from pt to pt with the gear? do u drive?
shinobi
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i don't drive all the time but my drummer does. i try to minimise the need to bring my rig out though. one day i'm gonna drop everything down a flight of stairs, spill something on it, or have some clown use (and destroy) it
i tried DI before but i wouldnt really consider them especially 'good' lah. i used to have the phil jones bass buddy but never tested it in combat before i sold it. however, my little mark has a balanced xlr out. that will work right? never tried it before but hoping to one day
It should work.
My method would be to plug my entire board into a mixer at home, then flat the mixer's EQ and adjust my effects and EQ etc to suit my taste.
This will at least ensure that your FOH sound will be what you really like.
But of coz, nothing beats miking up a Trac Elliot or SWR but if moving the darn amp ard is a chore, this is the best method I had used, at least for now =)
Any guys have other suggestions and inputs? Lets share our various practices to get the tone we want apart from bringing the amp ard
My method would be to plug my entire board into a mixer at home, then flat the mixer's EQ and adjust my effects and EQ etc to suit my taste.
This will at least ensure that your FOH sound will be what you really like.
But of coz, nothing beats miking up a Trac Elliot or SWR but if moving the darn amp ard is a chore, this is the best method I had used, at least for now =)
Any guys have other suggestions and inputs? Lets share our various practices to get the tone we want apart from bringing the amp ard
I don't think they will mind getting the D.I out from your Markbass.
I had successfully asked the soundman to take the D.I out from my bass d.i quite a few times before.
Most soundman are agreeable especially if they use digital boards. Just need to be nice to them and they will be nice back.
For miking the bass amp, I have yet to see that being done in Singapore except for foreign acts when they can specify the sound requirements to the dot. Local acts will have to live with D.I thru the bass.
But then again, my ideal sound for my bass will be taking two channels on the mixer.
1 Channel - Sound of Bass thru Amp's D.I
2 Channel - Sound of Bass via a Large Diaphragm Condenser to capture the character of the Bass Amp.
The D.I channel is to get a good clean signal for the soundman to mix to suit the FOH. The miked channel is for the character / mojo of the bass amp. The bass preamp is so much more different as compared to a mixer board's preamp in character and won't react the same although I had hear very good soundman adjust the bass channel till it sounds like a Trace Elliot.
Have fun in our quest in getting good sound =)
I had successfully asked the soundman to take the D.I out from my bass d.i quite a few times before.
Most soundman are agreeable especially if they use digital boards. Just need to be nice to them and they will be nice back.
For miking the bass amp, I have yet to see that being done in Singapore except for foreign acts when they can specify the sound requirements to the dot. Local acts will have to live with D.I thru the bass.
But then again, my ideal sound for my bass will be taking two channels on the mixer.
1 Channel - Sound of Bass thru Amp's D.I
2 Channel - Sound of Bass via a Large Diaphragm Condenser to capture the character of the Bass Amp.
The D.I channel is to get a good clean signal for the soundman to mix to suit the FOH. The miked channel is for the character / mojo of the bass amp. The bass preamp is so much more different as compared to a mixer board's preamp in character and won't react the same although I had hear very good soundman adjust the bass channel till it sounds like a Trace Elliot.
Have fun in our quest in getting good sound =)
jbarks
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If I'm playing at the Esplanade I usually get my amp miked up -- you have to specify what you want in your band's tech rider, if not you're going to get the standard kit everywhere you go.
usually I just run DI to board now, especially after getting the REDDI. If you're looking to get a small DI to bring around, you can't go wrong with the Radial JDI.
jbarks
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Sorry, but this is a bad way to do things! Mixer sound from your speakers at home (or headphones) will differ drastically from what you get from a dedicated FOH system. Speakers have different sound signatures, and EQ points that sound good to you at home may not translate well into a larger venue -- sound techs take the entire system and room into account when mixing and there's no way you can compensate for that at home.
What you can do, on the other hand, is to get a nice tone going on stage and go up to the sound guy -- ask him for help -- and tell him "this is a general idea of what I want to sound like, can you make it happen for me out in front?" This will work much better than you trying to control every bit of your signal. Your job is to play bass and the soundman's job is to make you sound good. Work together.
Hope this helps
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That I agree, we are all at the soundman's mercy at all times.
So it's important to let them understand what kind of sound we desire.
I do understand that the EQ of the system will change from venue to venue.
So what I'm doing is to at least have a stable sound output for them to shape around =)
So it's important to let them understand what kind of sound we desire.
I do understand that the EQ of the system will change from venue to venue.
So what I'm doing is to at least have a stable sound output for them to shape around =)
