The Bassist's Effects Line Up
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litford
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Hey y'all -)
To answer some queries.
1. Barge Concepts is a looper blender. in the loop are the FM4 -> SD Flying Tomato -> EBS Octabass
2. No recorded songs with the FM4 or Flying Tomato, but i make use of delay and fuzz on one of our songs called "The Simple Life" Delay is used during verse and fuzz during a guitar solo (I get my bass interlude! *grin*) If i find a video of us, i'll put it up
3. Eclipse gives me more attack, and helps when i play songs with a slight shuffle, it helps simulate the 'upstroke accent' [i keep my picks in the Eclipse - using planet waves, the green ones]
To answer some queries.
1. Barge Concepts is a looper blender. in the loop are the FM4 -> SD Flying Tomato -> EBS Octabass
2. No recorded songs with the FM4 or Flying Tomato, but i make use of delay and fuzz on one of our songs called "The Simple Life" Delay is used during verse and fuzz during a guitar solo (I get my bass interlude! *grin*) If i find a video of us, i'll put it up
3. Eclipse gives me more attack, and helps when i play songs with a slight shuffle, it helps simulate the 'upstroke accent' [i keep my picks in the Eclipse - using planet waves, the green ones]
TidesOfBlood
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heh, i found the time to test out Electro Harmonix's Bass Blogger and Bass Big Muff Pi. the low down..
Blogger
personally liked this very, very much. the fuzz is.. automatic Muse. if you get your furry paws on it, play around the the Drive knob.. once it goes past about 2 o'clock, it starts getting really sensitive, especially when the Drive/Fuzz switch is at the fuzz.
i personally prefer the nice, round tone that came from the pedal when the switch is at Drive though. maybe because my current distortion pedal is a tad more to the grainy side (my distortion is a TC Electronics Vintage Bass Distortion)
Bass Big Muff Pi
this one was a miss for me, unfortunately. like a Big Muff would sound with a guitar, the Bass Big Muff sounded like a Bass Big Muff with a bass. that much i can say. perhaps there's much more to it than i explored.. but it does work out a mean distortion, no doubt.
both retailing at Blackwood for $150/$159, i can't remember which is which. ;p
Blogger
personally liked this very, very much. the fuzz is.. automatic Muse. if you get your furry paws on it, play around the the Drive knob.. once it goes past about 2 o'clock, it starts getting really sensitive, especially when the Drive/Fuzz switch is at the fuzz.
i personally prefer the nice, round tone that came from the pedal when the switch is at Drive though. maybe because my current distortion pedal is a tad more to the grainy side (my distortion is a TC Electronics Vintage Bass Distortion)
Bass Big Muff Pi
this one was a miss for me, unfortunately. like a Big Muff would sound with a guitar, the Bass Big Muff sounded like a Bass Big Muff with a bass. that much i can say. perhaps there's much more to it than i explored.. but it does work out a mean distortion, no doubt.
both retailing at Blackwood for $150/$159, i can't remember which is which. ;p
rottenramone
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the eclipse looks like a tic tac...
use the flying tomato more! its a killer pedal!! actually i love subdecay products. a little quirky, a dash of kvlt, and quality all over.
use the flying tomato more! its a killer pedal!! actually i love subdecay products. a little quirky, a dash of kvlt, and quality all over.
KeDraiv
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crap, now i dunno to go for el grande or blogger...
seems like every review on bass fuzz would definitely one way or another mention muse.
haha
TidesOfBlood
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well using Muse as an example is convenient because it's relatively easy to identify with. i was lazy ;p
shinobi
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well the BBM is more than just a muff for bass... what did u think of the dry/bass flip switch settings
not that i'm in for either though... my capricorn would have been built by tomorrow
i used the LBM previously. on low sustain settings it was great. the tone knob sucked the lows. and most importantly, i felt that no matter what i did, the fuzz caused me to be unable to cut through the mix. probably because of the muff voicing. i dunno. maybe it could work for recording. but for me, not live.
the BBM might have solved this, especially with the dry blend mode.
the el grande doesn't lose any low end no matter what setting you put it in. the deep switch can put even more lows in, but i prefer to use it to 'round' the tone instead. if you're not careful with the trimpot settings it could get muddy, in which case it would serve its purpose well enough with the deep switch off.
i used the english muff'n for awhile i liked the tone very much. i could actually hear the characteristics of the input signal. but eventually let it go because even at the best of times, it is a damn good overdrive/distortion rather than fuzz. tube at that. and i could not justify having such a pedal lying on my board if i didn't really need it
not that i'm in for either though... my capricorn would have been built by tomorrow
i used the LBM previously. on low sustain settings it was great. the tone knob sucked the lows. and most importantly, i felt that no matter what i did, the fuzz caused me to be unable to cut through the mix. probably because of the muff voicing. i dunno. maybe it could work for recording. but for me, not live.
the BBM might have solved this, especially with the dry blend mode.
the el grande doesn't lose any low end no matter what setting you put it in. the deep switch can put even more lows in, but i prefer to use it to 'round' the tone instead. if you're not careful with the trimpot settings it could get muddy, in which case it would serve its purpose well enough with the deep switch off.
i used the english muff'n for awhile i liked the tone very much. i could actually hear the characteristics of the input signal. but eventually let it go because even at the best of times, it is a damn good overdrive/distortion rather than fuzz. tube at that. and i could not justify having such a pedal lying on my board if i didn't really need it
5stringwonder
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I rikes the purple pedal...makes me miss my purple huckleberry even more....
shinobi
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el grande clips are up on youtube... the blogger vids have been up there for awhile too. that should be enough to decide
when you spend close to 300 bucks plus weeks of waiting on a pedal with only one existing sound clip and no reviews available, you are there....
KeDraiv
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lol, looks like i'm still far from it,
HAHA
( i'll secretly console myself by saying i'm still young, HAHA)
damn, wish i could work now so that i can earn spare cash
exams are over.
slacking till nov where i can my o lvl chinese.
btw,
any recommendations for delay other than the MXR carbon copy?
been eyeing the Artec analog delay.
dunno if it works well for bass though.
HAHA
HAHA
( i'll secretly console myself by saying i'm still young, HAHA)
damn, wish i could work now so that i can earn spare cash
exams are over.
slacking till nov where i can my o lvl chinese.
btw,
any recommendations for delay other than the MXR carbon copy?
been eyeing the Artec analog delay.
dunno if it works well for bass though.
HAHA
lordie
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something i pick up. tried some new EHX Effects. Bass Blogger, Bass Metaphor and Bass Big Muff Pi. and saw some guy trying out the EHX Steel leather and was playing thru a Zon Sonus RT 5er or something. Also tried Demeter Copulator & AMT Bass Packet both are compressors
i am a drive whore, the bass muff sound so much thicker and crazier and so much richer and have quite an interesting tonal varieties but somehow, to my ears maybe, i dun think it could cut thru the mix during live shows, maybe for recording. need more experimentation or this goes to the classified section. SGD$159 compare to the Hematoma, different animal but the Hematoma can cut thru the mix in live and jam ;p \m/
the bass blogger is a fuzz/dist and i dun like it at all for a Fuzz/Dist pedal its really lacking, the fuzz is eerr. junk. The Bass Metaphor is a compressor + dist, the compressor is highly disapointed and so is the dist.
The Steel Leather is an interesting effect it supposedly act as reverse to the compressor as in bass expander. its very 'zingy' metallic ring kinda sound very trebbly a lot of low end loss, very percussing which leads me to conclude definately a thumbing/slap pedal kinda effect. i think lah.
the Bass Packer compressor was good for its price SGD$190 tot of buying it when OMFG. i tried the Demeter, totally transparent, beautiful. amazing really really REALLY REALLY goood. price? SGD$390.
((((( so i decided not to buy any compressor , until i tried the EBS ones. was going to muck around with some Devi's and T-Rex bass juice, but than was running out of time. maybe tomorrow.
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xmetallicx
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I'm using the artec analog delay for my bass, works perfectly =3 esp with my digitech bass wah and ODB-3.
Check out our new song "Subtleness Within" on www.myspace.com/weareavis at around 4:30mins until the end of the song for the bass delay.
the Bass Packer compressor was good for its price SGD$190 tot of buying it when OMFG. i tried the Demeter, totally transparent, beautiful. amazing really really REALLY REALLY goood. price? SGD$390.
do you know what is the ratio of compression for the Demeter?
I'm using the EBS one, it's ratio is 5:1. I think it's a good deal, because you have a super transparent multi-band compressor! Only the Tubesim mode colros the sound with tube-like sound, the other 2 modes are totally transparent and no noise.
I was initially interested in the demeter, but it had only 2 controls, which is pretty limited, if I were to get another, I'll go for the Carl Martin one which has more controls.
shinobi
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to make it even more transparent, you could try using your compressor together with the ehx steel leather :mrgreen:
there is no 'transparent compression'. there is no 'transparent effect'. there is no 'colourless colour'. there is no 'odourless odour'. there is not 'tasteless flavour'. transparent compression is merely lack of compression
the things that your should look out for are design and controls.
noise is determined by 2 things; the design, and the noise in the input signal. compression will make a noisy input noisier. that's what it's supposed to do
whether or not a compressor has sufficient controls depends on the individual. for example, a 4-knob keeley is not necessarily better than a 2-knob keeley. in fact, you can probably set them such that they sound exactly the same. a 4-knob keeley is only better (for you) if you have a use for the extra 2 knobs
it's not right to say that the normal and multiband modes of the MC are 'totally transparent'. usually you would set the multiband trimpots so that the low frequencies have more headroom, while the highs are cut off. you won't want the comp to be transparent, because what you are trying to do is to limit the highs; you want the tone to change
there is no 'transparent compression'. there is no 'transparent effect'. there is no 'colourless colour'. there is no 'odourless odour'. there is not 'tasteless flavour'. transparent compression is merely lack of compression
the things that your should look out for are design and controls.
noise is determined by 2 things; the design, and the noise in the input signal. compression will make a noisy input noisier. that's what it's supposed to do
whether or not a compressor has sufficient controls depends on the individual. for example, a 4-knob keeley is not necessarily better than a 2-knob keeley. in fact, you can probably set them such that they sound exactly the same. a 4-knob keeley is only better (for you) if you have a use for the extra 2 knobs
it's not right to say that the normal and multiband modes of the MC are 'totally transparent'. usually you would set the multiband trimpots so that the low frequencies have more headroom, while the highs are cut off. you won't want the comp to be transparent, because what you are trying to do is to limit the highs; you want the tone to change
lordie
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no idea abt the ratio for demeter going to do a bit of research the boss lm-3 is good so far but the demeter is just amazing.
i mean it suits my need i dun need any colorization and more knobs on the board i just want a simple solid transparent compressor. 2 knobs and it sounded amazing and it has blue LED! so that rocks.
i mean it suits my need i dun need any colorization and more knobs on the board i just want a simple solid transparent compressor. 2 knobs and it sounded amazing and it has blue LED! so that rocks.
