Successful Bands
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PatheinRaindropMoe
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just a thought came in mind while reading.
Why does it seem like the people/bands who are actually getting somewhere/getting airplay/get on local chart dont talk much about success/more coverage etc and yet it seem like most of us who have too much time on hand that like to think or discuss about something thats so wide open and seem like not getting anywhere most of the time, in the end?
pardon me
Why does it seem like the people/bands who are actually getting somewhere/getting airplay/get on local chart dont talk much about success/more coverage etc and yet it seem like most of us who have too much time on hand that like to think or discuss about something thats so wide open and seem like not getting anywhere most of the time, in the end?
pardon me
fictionaire_gse
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i agree with whoever it was that said we should only support good music, local or foreign.
SUPPORT GOOD MUSIC.
I also agree with bro AY bro that while we're young and virile, we should just have as much fun as we can making music and let the scene and culture grow (or die, touch wood) naturally. Afterall, as musicians, shouldn't that be our focus - making good music?
SUPPORT GOOD MUSIC.
I also agree with bro AY bro that while we're young and virile, we should just have as much fun as we can making music and let the scene and culture grow (or die, touch wood) naturally. Afterall, as musicians, shouldn't that be our focus - making good music?
Well i'm from a band that is just starting out, making our own music, enjoying those jamming/chilling times. There's a question i'd like to ask all the bro/sis in SOFT.
How many people in SG is willing to make music solely and give up on studies/work when they know they might not exactly make it big enough to earn enough money to feed themselves/family?
And from something i heard while talking to a fren about music which i think is quite true is, many Singaporeans give up easily, the upbringing makes most of us too "take things for granted".
A good eg is to take taxi when you're just travelling for a short dist because its damn far, as compared to how big other countries are? Far?
Anyway, as a band thats starting out, i agree to most of the posters, that good music is impt, but what is good music? metal? emo? rock? punk? i guess there's no one band that can be good at all of that.
Diff people love diff genres, i guess its because for every genre each loves, we don't have enough people to love that genre so much to make those bands big cause our country is so small.
But there's alot of great local music too, and i feel that there are alot of local bands that can perform and make music so well that i feel they are even better than other bands overseas.
Ok a little long there, hopefully when my band comes into the scene when we have the numbers of songs, and when we feel we're good enough, you all can support us!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
How many people in SG is willing to make music solely and give up on studies/work when they know they might not exactly make it big enough to earn enough money to feed themselves/family?
And from something i heard while talking to a fren about music which i think is quite true is, many Singaporeans give up easily, the upbringing makes most of us too "take things for granted".
A good eg is to take taxi when you're just travelling for a short dist because its damn far, as compared to how big other countries are? Far?
Anyway, as a band thats starting out, i agree to most of the posters, that good music is impt, but what is good music? metal? emo? rock? punk? i guess there's no one band that can be good at all of that.
Diff people love diff genres, i guess its because for every genre each loves, we don't have enough people to love that genre so much to make those bands big cause our country is so small.
But there's alot of great local music too, and i feel that there are alot of local bands that can perform and make music so well that i feel they are even better than other bands overseas.
Ok a little long there, hopefully when my band comes into the scene when we have the numbers of songs, and when we feel we're good enough, you all can support us!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Black_Death
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true tho..
IMO..tho we may not dig a particular genre,i believe we can still show our support to bands which make good music.
i have a dream,bands from singapore,are known worldwide.
we may be small.but when it comes to talent and skills,we are big.
im not trying to sound patriotic tho..
IMO..tho we may not dig a particular genre,i believe we can still show our support to bands which make good music.
i have a dream,bands from singapore,are known worldwide.
we may be small.but when it comes to talent and skills,we are big.
im not trying to sound patriotic tho..
Hmm... Alot of good points brought up so far.
When I first went to gigs, I was very surprised that the bands in Singapore do have talent. I think Singapore bands already has the talent and skills but waht is lacking (like what others have mentioned before) is that there is not enough marketing and promoting for the band.
Well, some mentioned that the market in Singapore is too small. That's true, but aren't we living in a globalised world? So prehaps, the world's our market, just that the problem is breaking through it (and the local market as well).
Perhaps one reason why its so hard have a 'sucessful' local band is because of our upbringing. From young, we are in the mainstream education that prepares us for 9-5 jobs. Not many would dare to be different. Also, another reason could be because of our lack of chance to grow as a musician? Studies, NS, work. yup
As forementioned, the defination of success if subjective. If my band is able to play this demanding song could be a success to them. Fame and fortune could be another band's defination for sucesss.
Anyway, why are we playing the instruments we are playing? What's music to you? Well, to me its a passion! :wink:
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Lol, funeral band? Can earn a living. don't mean to offend anyone, but i saw this chinese funeral with drumset and electric guitars/bass. so till got chance la.
When I first went to gigs, I was very surprised that the bands in Singapore do have talent. I think Singapore bands already has the talent and skills but waht is lacking (like what others have mentioned before) is that there is not enough marketing and promoting for the band.
Well, some mentioned that the market in Singapore is too small. That's true, but aren't we living in a globalised world? So prehaps, the world's our market, just that the problem is breaking through it (and the local market as well).
Perhaps one reason why its so hard have a 'sucessful' local band is because of our upbringing. From young, we are in the mainstream education that prepares us for 9-5 jobs. Not many would dare to be different. Also, another reason could be because of our lack of chance to grow as a musician? Studies, NS, work. yup
As forementioned, the defination of success if subjective. If my band is able to play this demanding song could be a success to them. Fame and fortune could be another band's defination for sucesss.
Anyway, why are we playing the instruments we are playing? What's music to you? Well, to me its a passion! :wink:
~~~
Lol, funeral band? Can earn a living. don't mean to offend anyone, but i saw this chinese funeral with drumset and electric guitars/bass. so till got chance la.
successful bands have one thing that most venues and major record labels want to see: Being able to translate their music into sales.
Its a commercial world unfortunately.
Perhaps, being polite, singing in Chinese and looking handsome might be the winning formula after all (biggest buying demographic and highest possible R.O.I)
Obviously, I hope that by doing Flow in such a commercial context with a collection of scene favorites, it might create market interest... and improve the overall local live music economy so to speak.
Its a commercial world unfortunately.
Perhaps, being polite, singing in Chinese and looking handsome might be the winning formula after all (biggest buying demographic and highest possible R.O.I)
Obviously, I hope that by doing Flow in such a commercial context with a collection of scene favorites, it might create market interest... and improve the overall local live music economy so to speak.
problem is. you will never know if a band is serious in their music or not. some might not wanna go full force. Like a for fun kind of thing so it totally depends on the bands. i guess the mentality to have tip top education is still in the minds of parents who will forbid their child to go for their music dream. Most parents if not all ah.
shredded said:
But you are right. Cover musicians - i.e. wedding bands, roadshow bands, funeral bands, function night bands etc Make more money and have more gigs. There is instant demand for musicians with a wide repertoire who play music written by established musicians.
One of the best examples locally is Uxpected- although they have their rocking originals (kudos shirlyn and Brendan btw), they can hold a residency and get a decent payroll from their music. Don't forget pedal master Randolf Ariola as well who does his thing with Embryo too. I was involved in a cover band in Australia for a while too and it paid the bills. And Syed dont pretend you are not in one! haha
When clients hire me to do corporate shows here, most of the time I bring along Timmy because they are simply not interested in the original bands under my wing.
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Saito
Crawldaddy
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Hmm.
Hope you guys don't mind me throwing another spanner into the mix...
I do believe that when it comes to the current generation of up-and-coming players, many of them are unwilling to look beyond their ONE genre of interest, which is probably why it is so difficult for a band which plays in a certain genre to garner any support from the population as a whole.
Take my experience at Music Mania today:
My band was slated to perform at 5:30, and we reached GasHaus around 4:45, which is arguably early enough for us to check out the other bands and hopefully understand how we can compensate for the sound onstage.
Unfortunately, we were unable to sell that many tickets for this event on the behalf of the organisers, and thus we were pushed to the back of the bill, where we ended up with a 9:30 timeslot.
The organiser told me that the manager of the event had placed the priority of the line-ups based on the number of tickets sold. Is that fair, I wonder?
Taken aback, I tried to push for an earlier timeslot (go in earlier, get out earlier) but the organiser refused, and my band walked out. We refused to play, and (my rationale is) since the organiser had gone back on their word to let us play at a timeslot both parties had agreed upon, we felt no obligation to play.
However the walking out is not my main point. After we walked out, some people made sarcastic remarks while we stood around trying to make a decision for our next destination.
The sarcastic remarks included:
"if you are not emo or metal, you can go home now"
other remarks included not-so-kind statements about my guitarist's ethnicity, and on the whole I think those statements made by a particularly ignorant individual were utterly unneccessary.
FYI my band plays funky-ish rock and roll with a smattering of rock covers. If we can't even accept or get along with each other even though we have different musical tastes, how can any aspiring local band look beyond their 'comfort zone' and experiment with their music and creativity accordingly?
Hope you guys don't mind me throwing another spanner into the mix...
I do believe that when it comes to the current generation of up-and-coming players, many of them are unwilling to look beyond their ONE genre of interest, which is probably why it is so difficult for a band which plays in a certain genre to garner any support from the population as a whole.
Take my experience at Music Mania today:
My band was slated to perform at 5:30, and we reached GasHaus around 4:45, which is arguably early enough for us to check out the other bands and hopefully understand how we can compensate for the sound onstage.
Unfortunately, we were unable to sell that many tickets for this event on the behalf of the organisers, and thus we were pushed to the back of the bill, where we ended up with a 9:30 timeslot.
The organiser told me that the manager of the event had placed the priority of the line-ups based on the number of tickets sold. Is that fair, I wonder?
Taken aback, I tried to push for an earlier timeslot (go in earlier, get out earlier) but the organiser refused, and my band walked out. We refused to play, and (my rationale is) since the organiser had gone back on their word to let us play at a timeslot both parties had agreed upon, we felt no obligation to play.
However the walking out is not my main point. After we walked out, some people made sarcastic remarks while we stood around trying to make a decision for our next destination.
The sarcastic remarks included:
"if you are not emo or metal, you can go home now"
other remarks included not-so-kind statements about my guitarist's ethnicity, and on the whole I think those statements made by a particularly ignorant individual were utterly unneccessary.
FYI my band plays funky-ish rock and roll with a smattering of rock covers. If we can't even accept or get along with each other even though we have different musical tastes, how can any aspiring local band look beyond their 'comfort zone' and experiment with their music and creativity accordingly?
kerplunk182
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originality, stage presense, how you treat the crowd, Don't be a teeny booper la looks don't matter. I think your personality matters most.
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kerplunk182 said:
wad's ur definition of a teeny bopper? and looks don't matter? if i go onstage wearing slippers, or messy hair? :?
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and crawl, i had the same experience as you once. except we sold all our tickets. we were supposed to be the 6th band. the event started at 6. means around 9 or 930 right? but we played at 1215, and we ended at 1240. now, we got a hard time selling our tix bcos our friends scared that the same thing will happen again. although this time it's a different organiser. :?
Crawldaddy said:
Hi dude, I can clarify that.
For me, 4:45 is definitely NOT an acceptable to sound check for a band that's planned to be on stage at 5.30pm. I cannot speak on behalf of Music Mania's promoter Roy of Extreme Music, but he hired the club from us and its his show to command.
In the case of my own events - Bands would sound check much earlier in the afternoon. When I pulled off the Press Conference for Nokia's Play Music event (20th Oct) at St. James Power Station, Concave Scream and West Grand sound checked at 3pm and played at 7pm / 10pm. Everything was smooth.
In regards to people giving you remarks that you would be treated differently if you are not an emo band etc, you got to understand your demographic. Let's put it another way - if you got a set at Timbre and played Death metal, what kind of comments would you expect to get?
Given a bigger perspective, there will always be on genre that is more accepted to the public than others. And there will always be niche scenes.
And I doubt Ethnicity has anything to do with it bro. Chill out and have a beer
I think the simplest explanation is that you were just late that day and it 'threw a spanner' in the works for you.
Normally Roy/Faizal has to do considerable amount of planning - so I can understand if something like that happens.
