Sansamp GT2? A little disappointing.

[fanir]

Hey man, thanks for the indepth advice man. I really appreciate it. Yeah well, I'm gonna play around with it more again but hey, you're a nice dude so I'm sure its not faulty.

I just tried added a TS7 in front of it and god it sounds horrible. Hmm, I'd have to play with it around more I guess. I'm also thinking that maybe my cables are the problem. Not enough output or something like some of my guitar friends are having problems with.

But cheers man for the advice.

 

[Whitestrat]

Yes, sir. I was referring to the Hardwire series

Then lemme warn you... The Valve Distortion, once you've unlocked it's potential, is addictive... Suddenly, the Metal Distortion will sound OTT to you...:mrgreen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pYHTmlxlsQ

It's the most overlooked pedal in the Hardwire range... But it's currently my fav go to pedal... Not really for "metalheads" though, but I've nailed a mean rhythm tone for Evanescence using this before...

 

[THOA]

^ Damn, you're cruel. I don't think I can survive This GAS... :lol:

I was comparing the clips all over Youtube and the sound clip over at Digitech, and I find them pretty consistent, unlike alot of other clips I heard. Seems like a damn versatile pedal!

The Metal Distortion is a little OTT for me as you mentioned. Perhaps also because I already found my hi-gain metal tone already :mrgreen:

 

[THOA]

Hi bro.

I can guarantee it is definitely not faulty. Trust me on this.

On the other hand, I'm not sure what kind of sound you want, get a brand new gt-2 at TYMC and compare it with my unit, I'm pretty sure it'll sound the same as long as it is the same version.

I think despite people saying GT-2 is versatile and all, there is definitely a limit to what every distortion unit can do. Do play around more, I'm pretty sure you can get the tone you want.

By cranking the gain knob, just for your info, it doesn't add to chugs but more to fuzziness. The ZZZZZZZZZZZZz at the end of each chord and when you touch your strings, it becomes very sensitive. Too much gain some may say.

For chugs, the amp, the EQ setting and the guitar you're using all plays a part.

Like using a single coil strat dialing the same mesa setting VS a humbucker. There is definitely a significant difference. And I'm talking about cheap pickups from SX, not even comparing fender texas specials VS a JB bridge.

Hope this helps.

PS: Bring it down to TYMC, if it is faulty I'll pay for the repair fees no worries. But rest assured, when I sold the pedal to you, it was what it was when I first got it. Tone, condition and everything. Cheers.

This is perhaps the pinnacle of Soft after 2nd hand sale service. +100 for you, sir!

 

[Lifehouse]

Hi there, I think if your amp's speaker is a 8 inch, there's a limit of chug you're going to get.

I'm not sure I am reading you right, but I think by boosting your 'Low' you should be able to get more of the bottom end that is quite crucial to the whole 'chug'. Do note that stacking pedals usually involves a lot of patience.

If you're guitar is using the Classic 57s pickups, there's a possibility its not the right pickup for the genre you want to play.

 

[angussham]

I think the GT2 is disappointing too!

Hi there, I have the GT2 on my board for about 7years already.
Bought it at $293 back in year 2002..
Because it was kinda 'expensive' for me, i didn't sort of bear to let it go.
But the truth is, I really couldn't found the drive and tone that I want.
I needed something fatter and meatier..

But it seems like the GT2 sounds really thin and doesn't cut through well.
It may sound AWESOME when you play by yourself,
but when the whole band comes in, it has great difficulty cutting through.

You might wanna try Xotic BB-preamp, the fulltone OCD or
even the Sansamp Blonde. I think these pedals are great for warm fat tones

 

[ahkiatt]

You know what Singapore's music scene's truly lacking?!

Proper gear. The GT2 is an excellent pedal, I'm a bassist, but I can still tell good tone from bad. I've heard guitarists play with a GT2 and sound pretty decent.

Here's what you need:

 

[fanir]

Hi there, I have the GT2 on my board for about 7years already.
Bought it at $293 back in year 2002..
Because it was kinda 'expensive' for me, i didn't sort of bear to let it go.
But the truth is, I really couldn't found the drive and tone that I want.
I needed something fatter and meatier..

But it seems like the GT2 sounds really thin and doesn't cut through well.
It may sound AWESOME when you play by yourself,
but when the whole band comes in, it has great difficulty cutting through.

You might wanna try Xotic BB-preamp, the fulltone OCD or
even the Sansamp Blonde. I think these pedals are great for warm fat tones

Hey man, nah, I'm not considering of getting another drive pedal but I might look for those in the future. Thanks man.

Anyway, thanks everyone for giving thoughtful inputs and help on the GT2! I thoroughly appreciate it. I'm happy and I'll keep playing around with the tones with it. If I'm not, I'll just get another drive something like what you guys have suggested and use GT2 as a second distortion.

Thank you very much and thanks Newbie. I think you're a very kind person and it was nice doing business with you man. Thanks for the help too!

Cheers guys.

 

[fanir]

Oh yeah, is there any major differences between the old version of the GT2 from the new one?

 

[Newbie]

Honestly? Maybe I'm partially deaf but not a huge difference.

Maybe the older one is less "digitalized-sounding" and to some extend sounds a wee bit warmer. But maybe thats just me.

Actually just to say-tell, from my experience, GT-2 can never be a stand alone pedal. Especially when you wanna do leads, best to have an EQ pedal to go with it. Another OD or TS with it? I've did that, but I roll the gain knob to 0 and just use it for volume boost and the tone knob just to shape the lead tone's EQ.

Btw you mentioned you play Saosin? I don't listen to Saosin but when I youtube-d one of the songs "Seven Years". The distortion sounding can be obtained by GT-2 quite easily.

Play around with the British setting, I'm sure you can get what you want.

PS: I think sometimes a desired type of distortion is not how much gain you roll up, but how much gain you're willing to roll down; then increase on the volume side. Not sure if I'm making any sense, I'm a Newbie

 

[Newbie]

You know what Singapore's music scene's truly lacking?!

Proper gear. The GT2 is an excellent pedal, I'm a bassist, but I can still tell good tone from bad. I've heard guitarists play with a GT2 and sound pretty decent.

Here's what you need:

With that amount of cabs, I'm sure even Tekong cookhouse 1 can hear what the stage is playing. \m/

 

[Whitestrat]

^ Damn, you're cruel. I don't think I can survive This GAS... :lol:

I was comparing the clips all over Youtube and the sound clip over at Digitech, and I find them pretty consistent, unlike alot of other clips I heard. Seems like a damn versatile pedal!

The Metal Distortion is a little OTT for me as you mentioned. Perhaps also because I already found my hi-gain metal tone already :mrgreen:

Well, high gain or not, I've found that with a decent cab, I can use the valve distortion for ANYTHING... literally... low gain, medium gain, high gain, classic rock, blues, metal... Wah... this pedal is good... But must tweak in between songs... Maybe stack 3 of them together for different voicings? Heheheh...

 

[crozzfire]

Oh yeah, is there any major differences between the old version of the GT2 from the new one?

The more noticeable difference is the California channel. Both versions are modelled after different Mesa amps. I forgot which is which, one after the Mark IV and one after the Dual Rectifier. I think the latter is in the newer version. *Anyone knows this? Correct me if I'm wrong!*

Another one which will more a very big shock will be when you open up the backplate. The older version, which is what I am using, has two-floor electric plates, with not-small transistors, big mechanical foot-button isolated from board, set bottom against cover.

The newer one? 1-floor board with one big chip, foot-button only half-size, and little spring from button to board used to on/off microswitch.

Sometimes it makes me wonder if the newer one was a fake. Its pretty cold sounding and a tad noisy.

 

[crozzfire]

ahkiatt: That pwned. I bet you're talking about my GT2.

 

[shioks76]

1) You must try the compressor like others suggested. Adds a lot of chunk to the tone. Don't turn up the sustain too much, then itll sound weird and muddy.

2) Pickups make a huge difference. If you're gibson came with burst bucker pros or paf type low output stuff, u still can get great chugga, but will require a lot more effort then lets say if u have emg actives installed.

3)try adding a touch of reverb or delay.

If all else fails, ditch your gt2 and get a podx3 live. Connect it to your house home theater system/ studio's pa and blast away. Instant chugga

 

[Whitestrat]

Anyway, thanks everyone for giving thoughtful inputs and help on the GT2! I thoroughly appreciate it. I'm happy and I'll keep playing around with the tones with it. If I'm not, I'll just get another drive something like what you guys have suggested and use GT2 as a second distortion.

Actually, here's something to remember as a matter of principle:

If your amp don't chug, your pedal won't rock 'n' roll.

Think about it.

 

[fanir]

Ahhh, thanks for all the advice here friends. Really helped me delve more and play around with the pedal itself. I've read so many good things about it and I'll try and make it work. If things aren't working out fine, I'd have to ditch it and get a Jekyll and Hyde pedal. But that's too much already. HAHA.

Thanks again guys! Woah! 8 pages. You people are great!

 

[mus]

Your most welcome

 

[THOA]

Why can't query threads be more like this one? It can be 20 pages for all I care but in the end it's satisfactory to reply to :?

 

[desdinova]

I never read the whole thread but for me its always a matter of equipments...y does some ppl get a gd tone out of the gt2? i dun use it, but guitar, pickups, cables, amps, speakers play a gd part in it...and always remember, more gain doesn't necessarily means more heavy or brutal