Lead Guitarist that only wants the name

[neuro182]

i did not change my mind. u got it wrong.

i dont bother as well. the topic is about lead guitarist who only want the name. u can call yourself a lead guitarist or rythm guitarist if u want. me just a guitar player. i have no problem with that but i think u have prob with my opinion. if thats the case, i let it be.

okay, great... so now we do know that lead and rhythm guitarist exists, but you just do not want to acknowledge both. you would prefer both to be called the guitarists? or the guitar player right?

good, now we are clear on this one... back to the topic... in my opinion to your situation as mentioned before, the reason why the guy did not choose you is probably due to the reason that he wants to be the alpha guitarist in the band, but then again you state that they wanted a guitarist who can play both lead and rhythm. so it could be

1) it is really the case that the guy wants to be called the lead guitarist and he is afraid you might overtake him and look good (so he decided not to let you into the band)

or

2) you really did not meet their requirements (as being able to handle both lead and rhythm).

in your thread, you stated both reasons, so I cannot make out what is the real reason why they did not choose you?

if it is just point #1, i guess this kind of band with this kind of player who has this kind of mentality will probably not go far.

if it is point #2, probably it is time for self-check

 

[rockito]

neuro, may i know y r u so concern about wkat is not important. i have the right to choose whether or not to include the facts/story in detail. But i choose not to. Are you going to question me why i choose not to? are you a 'policeman'?

the topic is about something else...unless u purposely wana get personal. aniwei.

me and fren know him better so MYOB.

y should i prove it to you. u can only know if he's somebody u know rite? if u know his character and attitude rite? how would i know if that rockstar is not even someone related to me. what a question.

like somebody said the fear of being outplayed, feels threatened.. neuro this is somebody related to me and my fren..somebody we know. so we know him better. y should i prove it to you?

whatever lah. ok lah im a LEAD GUITARIST who is NOT CHOSEN by the band becoz im NOT GOOD. he's BETTER than me. will u question me much now if the story is like that? whatever.

 

[rockito]

okay, great... so now we do know that lead and rhythm guitarist exists, but you just do not want to acknowledge both. you would prefer both to be called the guitarists? or the guitar player right?

good, now we are clear on this one... back to the topic... in my opinion to your situation as mentioned before, the reason why the guy did not choose you is probably due to the reason that he wants to be the alpha guitarist in the band, but then again you state that they wanted a guitarist who can play both lead and rhythm. so it could be

1) it is really the case that the guy wants to be called the lead guitarist and he is afraid you might overtake him and look good (so he decided not to let you into the band)

or

2) you really did not meet their requirements (as being able to handle both lead and rhythm).

in your thread, you stated both reasons, so I cannot make out what is the real reason why they did not choose you?

if it is just point #1, i guess this kind of band with this kind of player who has this kind of mentality will probably not go far.

if it is point #2, probably it is time for self-check

firstly, i did not say they dont exist. who said i dont want to admit there isn't? i can see that ppl like you are one one of them. i did not say i prefer a rythm guitarist and a lead guitarist to be called a guitarist or guitar player. its just u who wana twist my words, u wana put word in my mouth..i mean in my fingers pls dont study law if u intend to.. by saying in my dictionary, there is no such thing as lead or rythm guitarist doesn't mean they don;t exist. its just my thoughts coz im just a guitar player. if u want to call me a guitarist i wont stop you. get your understanding right first before posting.


2ndly, this has got nothing to do with the topic. u just wana know the story, go find out yourself, detective. i have the right to choose whether or not to include the facts/story in detail. But i choose not to. Are you going to question me why i choose not to? why should i prove to you? why should i let you know?

 

[Ized]

ok let me post something "related" to the topic.

I think all these WIERDOS rockito mentioned should all just choke on their broken guitar strings and die.

KTHXBYE.

 

[Anirudh]

your missing out on neuro182's point rockito. i dont think hes trying to make any condescending remark about you.

 

[Raistmar]

Rockito you're out of point, stop defending and start discussing. heh.

 

[rockito]

raistmar, why im out of point? tell me your point. hope u r not another one who wants to go out of topic.

anirudh, which one did i miss? if its not related then i didn't miss any.

 

[neuro182]

rockito: despite quoting you on ur points, you still fail to see where I am coming from..

It is no wonder why you totally leave me speechless... if you bother to read the long reply that I even bother to type, you will understand so much more...

With this, I shalt leave the thread because honestly, I don't find it meaningless to "discuss" here when you are just haggling on your side of the argument and being so defensive.

After reading your last 2 posts, I can feel the deep anger in you burning against that guy. Correct me if I am wrong (but I think everyone can tell) that you got an issue with that dude (whom you and your other friend who is in the band knows very well). This thread, however I see it, is like a hate thread pointed towards that particular guy who wants to play in the band as a lead guitarist (and probably like you said, wants the name). You don't have to agree, this is what I think and I don't impose upon you to think likewise.

Like that, I don't think it is much of an issue about whether the guitarist wants the name or is he playing for the name. He just got an attitude problem to deal with. You said "To each his own" yet you cannot let go of the very fact that they didn't choose you because of difference in opinions between you and him. So what you can play better than him, left or right handed I don't care. End of the day, you are not selected. He got his reasons and you probably have yours regarding who should be "fit" for the band. I quote you big time on this, "to each his own."

I feel that you are a rather insecure person From the way people tries to correct your mindset and give you an alternative view to the situation, all you do is refute their points and only taking in/agreeing with those who stand on your side. In my opinion, a guitar player like you, no matter which band you play in, sure will have a lot of issues (that I think most people who read your posts will agree with me).

With all these said, I think there is nothing much left for me to mention anymore. Again, let me emphasize the fact that this is my mere 2cents worth of opinion. You don't have to agree with me

I love your quote, "To each his own." Allows me to get away scott-free after saying so much stuffs :lol:

 

[Aki S. Ian]

someone please just lock this thread?
bwahahhahaa

 

[neuro182]

Apologies for spoiling the thread. Please don't lock it. Just delete my posts can liao.

 

[Ized]

oops and i forgot to mention these wierdos include my schoolmates and my boss too! maybe i should start a rant thread too. Anybody?

 

[neuro182]

haha i will join u and we openly declare it a RANT thread

How u been bro?? and your band?? Been awhile since I saw u.. Deafcon 11?

 

[fgl]

Here's a true story:

many eons ago when i was just a newbie - just 1 month into my guitar playing days I had wanted to join a neighbourhood band. The singer couldnt sing for nuts (I could sing much better than him). Anyways the singer (it was his band) took in his friend instead - another guitar player who was more or less on par with me skill wise but who also couldnt sing.

So what did I do after not gettingthe position? Simply - I formed my own band with people I can work with .... the rest is history.

P.S - it was actually a great feeling when both our bands were in the same band competition and my band kicked their butts to win it"...

ONE DOOR CLOSES, TWO OTHER DOORS OPEN ....

 

[rockito]

rockito: despite quoting you on ur points, you still fail to see where I am coming from..

It is no wonder why you totally leave me speechless... if you bother to read the long reply that I even bother to type, you will understand so much more...

With this, I shalt leave the thread because honestly, I don't find it meaningless to "discuss" here when you are just haggling on your side of the argument and being so defensive.

After reading your last 2 posts, I can feel the deep anger in you burning against that guy. Correct me if I am wrong (but I think everyone can tell) that you got an issue with that dude (whom you and your other friend who is in the band knows very well). This thread, however I see it, is like a hate thread pointed towards that particular guy who wants to play in the band as a lead guitarist (and probably like you said, wants the name). You don't have to agree, this is what I think and I don't impose upon you to think likewise.

Like that, I don't think it is much of an issue about whether the guitarist wants the name or is he playing for the name. He just got an attitude problem to deal with. You said "To each his own" yet you cannot let go of the very fact that they didn't choose you because of difference in opinions between you and him. So what you can play better than him, left or right handed I don't care. End of the day, you are not selected. He got his reasons and you probably have yours regarding who should be "fit" for the band. I quote you big time on this, "to each his own."

I feel that you are a rather insecure person From the way people tries to correct your mindset and give you an alternative view to the situation, all you do is refute their points and only taking in/agreeing with those who stand on your side. In my opinion, a guitar player like you, no matter which band you play in, sure will have a lot of issues (that I think most people who read your posts will agree with me).

With all these said, I think there is nothing much left for me to mention anymore. Again, let me emphasize the fact that this is my mere 2cents worth of opinion. You don't have to agree with me

I love your quote, "To each his own." Allows me to get away scott-free after saying so much stuffs :lol:

yes its along reply. which point did i miss? simply tell me.

haggling on my side? read my every statement. im explaining to you my points like you are. im giving my views..opinions. not to answer your questions about what u tink the facts were.

u assume that im in deep anger but im not. and there u go again with your own fairy tale. but yes the way u see it is the way u think i cant change that. but that does NOT mean your 'story' is TRUE. u just cant accept that i wont provide the details rite? i choose not to and its my right. u have the right to question me? why MUST i prove to you? u tink this is anger? u r pretty weird, i tink u should go to every thread and question every single thing if u find it incomplete.

"yet you cannot let go of the very fact that they didn't choose you because of difference in opinions between you and him" I cannot let go? where u get that? see, thats wat u do best. putting words in my 'fingers' yes to each his own.. he got his reason. so? wat has dat got to do with the topic? cant u see this discussion is about the topic? u are trying to complete the story based on what u tink, u r not giving opinions based on the topic. like i said earlier, what u tink is not true coz me and my fren knows better.

"I feel that you are a rather insecure person From the way people tries to correct your mindset and give you an alternative view to the situation, all you do is refute their points and only taking in/agreeing with those who stand on your side. In my opinion, a guitar player like you, no matter which band you play in, sure will have a lot of issues (that I think most people who read your posts will agree with me)."
thats wat u feel. y u feel that way becoz u said "ppl (i guess u) try to correct my mindset? and give an alternative view to the situation? if ppl here are giving honest opinions, i respect that. but ppl like you are not discussing bout the topic. what views did u contribute other than 'trying to complete the story based on what u tink'. which point of views regarding the topic did i refute? please state them. again if u r giving views, i respect that. i shall not tell u every single facts coz i dont see the need to. by giving such introduction in my first post is enough to kick off the discussion of lead guitarist who wants the name. some ppl who wana get personal, instead of giving views on this, talk about something else. can i say i feel these kind of ppl are the ones who 'feel' it?

yes to each his own. but if you r trying too hard to complete the story, then its not 'to each his own' anymore. its only 'your own' and dats not how the story goes. its only 'my own' coz i know the facts better. if u r giving 'to each his own' opinions regarding the topic then its fine. simple. got it?

 

[Ized]

haha i will join u and we openly declare it a RANT thread

How u been bro?? and your band?? Been awhile since I saw u.. Deafcon 11?

haha yeah bro this way no one will accuse us of sidetracking.

ahha my bands all good, and i think the last time you saw me was at deafcon 10 man, deafcon 11 hasnt happened yet....we'r also gonna hit the recording studios soon man....although we'r rather busy now cos all in final year having our internships. life sucks when you are an intern with a meagre allowance dang dang dang. and a 9-6.30 life means you don have much time.

Anyways i heard you left knightsfall? damn! you guys really rocked at deafcon 10 that time man... maybe we should chill out soon....i don see you at ebenex these days anymore? lol

 

[rockito]

will u ask fgl why he's not chosen? and etc etc

 

[layla]

whoever create the song, he'll play the lead.

not true lah bradder. a good songwriter may not necessary be a killer lead player.

but i understand, there are not many ppl like me nowadays. i guess kids nowadays are too influenced by the culture and glamour of those western bands... come on, we're in singapore.

how old are you sial? and i tot you are a kid?

i dont wanabe in a band with that kind of guitar player. i tink these ppl should realise playing music is not entirely about glamour.

"not entirely", like you said. still, you have to look glamorous on stage. as a performer, you have to be different from the audience, that is, to be glamor! you have to be glamor so that the fan girls/boys will go "wahhhh". you have to look superior as a performer! that's when your market value will go up and booking agents/managers will start calling you up for shows because you are a rockstar!

i say this is crap. these ppl are crap.

as long as off stage, they remain humble, don't piss people off, have a good soul and heart, they are not crap.

now, think about it.

 

[fgl]

will u ask fgl why he's not chosen? and etc etc

doesnt matter why bro ... coz the moral is:

ONE DOOR CLOSES, TWO OTHER DOORS OPEN ....

 

[Aki S. Ian]

doesnt matter why bro ... coz the moral is:

ONE DOOR CLOSES, TWO OTHER DOORS OPEN ....

yeah theres alwasy the back door! not to mention side entrance for free entry!

 

[rockito]

layla, those are my opinions. u can provide yours. there is not right or wrong opirions.

my thinking is that since he create the song, he'll play the lead. if he doesn't want and pass it to me, then i wont say eh cannot u still have to play. i wont. its give and take, share and care. i believe in that.

how old am i? it doesn't matter as long as u have your point of view u can share here. i not gonna say u r wrong. but thats my point of view. if u cant accept it, i let it be.

about glamour, i cant say u cant have it. but some ppl dont play just for fame. but if u do play just for glamour, fame, babes and etc i tink thats crap. thats my view. if u r against my view, i let it be.