Lead Guitarist that only wants the name

does my first post mean i did not respect his decision, rudimenatldrummer? .

Relax rockito

There is really nothing wrong the way I see it if - If he were to ask you (to play the lead parts as what he plays), but at end of day only require a Guitarists to play the rhythm part, because he is already playing the Lead-Guitarist Role in his Band (couple with the facts that he is the Band Leader here)...............

I am sure he knows jolly well that you are a good player too (and maybe as you say better than him here)....but Rockito, as I've mentioned - He must find a Good Fit between you and the Band and for whatever reasons - he doesn't finds a Fit here - so he did not pick you.

I mean, think positively lah - Maybe he feels your talent are wasted if you will be playing with his band as you could also be a Awesomeeee Lead Guitarists if you were to join another band (I said maybe here, we dont know right?).

Not calling you for whatever reasons (is a small matter too) - maybe he feels "pai-seh" to you (how do you know too - you are not him).

The above might not be attributed to "Glamour" too - but Glamour or No-Glamour - to each his own - There is nothing wrong with it depending on ones Objective for playing Guitar or whichever kind of instruments is not a Bad or Big Issue here.

But the facts remain on what you've posted here as a Thread-Starter to all...stipulating (if I may quote again) - - - the below

[ - Have u been for an audition for a guitar slot and then the guitarist ask u to play what he plays? he's aware that you're many times better than him but only ask u to play rhythm for the band. You know if u play lead u can create better melodies out of simple note for note lead/fill-ins that he plays. I can even play lefthanded better than him. Then he said he'll call u but he never did becoz he wants to be the lead guitaist for the band. WTH.

the trend is all about glamour. - ]

Anyone reading your post, by the way you have written - will give an impression that you're actually quite arrogant too (cause you are COMPARING/PITTING yourself to the whoever Band Leader who is also a Lead-Guitarists for his Band here - the one that audition you) - and you feel that you are so much better than him (you are indeed measuring your own self-worth here) - and you quote that - Because you're better than he is and he did not take you as a member of the Band -even assumming if he does (he will only give you the role of the Rhythm-Guitarists) - as such - "Is it all about Glamour came into the Topic" .....

Nothing wrong with " Is it all about the Glamour Topic" here afterall ..... just a discussion. But you have given alot of people here- A Perception about you (True or False, Good or Bad, Arrogant or Not-Arrogant, Humble or Not Humble, Respecting Others or Not, Is it Challenging someone a Band Leader or not) from what you've posted in the beginning of the post.

I leave this to you rockito, to judge for yourself - think about it. It's all about Attitude Towards This Fine Art Of Music...

PS: - You seems to be not very accomodating and not an easy person to work with (no hard feelings) but at least that's only my own personal opinion here.

My answer to your question is - YES you did not give him the respect (even though you said you respect his decision) - because

Firstly - you have no choice (dont' you) - but to accept - as he has the Final Say.

Most importantly - If you've respected his Decision (as you said) - then why quote all this from the start - Give that Man his respect, He too - as a Musician, as a Band Leader - Why Thumb Him Down here?

Eric
 
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Whahahaha my dear Bro fgl ( You love to see this thread being lock dont you ? )- This thread is not as Bad as it's deem to be lock as it is now I think.... It's quite educational in a way....but ya - Who knows?
 
bro rudimental ..donno leh ..threads I thought wud be locked - open house liao and the threads that that were "ok" type kena locked ... hard to say mah ..

we as citizens in soft just gotta leave it to the mods loh ... ;)
 
there is nothing wrong with the thread lah bro fgl :) dun worry... probably some harsh exchange of words, but you know, we got to rough it out a little sometimes, else the forum gets too boring.. it's all fine..


lets discuss the topic, shall we?

have u came across such kind of guitarist who only plays for the fame and the fortune?

in local terms, so far the only glam stuffs i have seen is the boys of Bad O and Cig Sex. then again, i don't think they are just playing and rocking out the stage for just the glam. i chatted with dong and the guys @ Bad O some time back. pretty down-to-earth people who enjoy the love of music, as well as working the crowds out.
 
no lah bros ... i was just joking ....I dont mean that this thread should be locked.... UNLESS softies posting here get too outta hand ..the threadstarter should be able to give his full views accordingly...
 
=RudimentalDrummer

im cool. this thread is just a discussion about the title but then u know what..its kind of interesting. it helps to improve rebuttal technique.

ur 1st para.. did i say there is something wrong?

ur 2nd para.. sounds like u are trying to complete the story. is that an assumption? or realli u know its 100% true. u even know the reason why he didn't pick me. u can be rich. anyway like wat i;ve mentioned too, the topic is about LEad guitarist who only want the name NOT 'Pls help me find a reason. How could he not pick me? Is he right to do that. im very sad. pls help me.'

ur 3rd para.. can i say u assume dat im not positive? i dont look at both sides of the coin as mentioned earlier?

ur 4th para.. i didn't ask for the reason coz u know nuts bout the story. u can make assumptions. me and my fren knows well. "how do you know too" im dis and dat.. the guy is like dis and dat and the reason is like dis and dat.. and the story is like dis and dat.

ur 5th para.. u used the word 'might' here. whereas the thread title and my first post tells u the story is confirm 100% like dat. So ppl like you are more interested in completing the story based on assumptions. I should have put the title as 'Lead guitarist who might only play for the name' so u'll be more happy.

ur 8th para.. u have the right to have the impression that im arrogant. i let it be. but i have the right to compare myself with other ppl to learn from it. If im better, i will say i am. If im not, i will say im not. if somebody accuse me of being like dis and dat, i'll fight till the end coz im innocent. for those who dont know, thats call integrity.
u said "even assumming if he does (he will only give you the role of the Rhythm-Guitarists)"
i said "but only ask u to play rhythm for the band" maybe u've ignored the facts that i;ve provided. r u trying to say i assume that as well? or my facts are just my assumptions? Then pls tell me the your full story based on what u tink. as mentioned earlier, me and fren knows him. my fren is playing with him. we know better than you know.
"as such - "Is it all about Glamour came into the Topic" becoz the topic is like that. set by me.

ur 9th para.. whatever perceptions based on what u tink, u have the right too. me too have my own perceptions of u kind of ppl who posted. to complete the story based on wat u tink..based on assumptions, u have right too. but i say thats not its like.

yes correct. i agree. right attitude. and we should not accuse ppl or assume ppl anyhow. we should let it be if its their own beliefs, opinions, principles. we must have integrity.

yes i can change what your personal opinion of me. i let it be.

my first post means i did not respect his decision because i quote all this from the start and i thumb him down here.
what a statement. u accuse me of not respecting him and thumb him down here. this is only a discussion. pls back up ur statement. which quotes? be specific let narrow down shall we?
about i thumb him down here is not true coz I said in previous post

"but ppl like you are not discussing bout the topic. what views did u contribute other than 'trying to complete the story based on what u tink'. which point of views regarding the topic did i refute? please state them. again if u r giving views, i respect that. i shall not tell u every single facts coz i dont see the need to. by giving such introduction in my first post is enough to kick off the discussion of lead guitarist who wants the name. some ppl who wana get personal, instead of giving views on this, talk about something else. can i say i feel these kind of ppl are the ones who 'feel' it?"

the purpose of this thread is not to thumb him down but to discuss. my opinion is those who feel the emo touch to the title and the ACTUAL discussion not happy.

my opinion still stand strong. I play for passion and love for music. still im just a guitar player.

PS: I tink i quote u too much thats y its long. :P
 
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Rockito, I have nothing to say to you, cause I really couldn't be bothered anyway now. You must be a very young man I guess.....Learn to respect other people's decision when - The Perogative Is Theirs....(Short & Sharp).

Oh.hhhhhhhhhhh and you sure can write har?????

PS: - Enjoy your stay here at Soft....cheers !
 
Yes i agree. I respect everyone here in and outside soft. Integrity is the key here..we should be honest and just in our posts to avoid misleading assumptions. Learn to strengthen it not only in soft, not only in this thread, but also in ourselves.

PS: I will.
 
Rockito, I've nothing against you, just a "Word Of Caution" here "Be Nice To Fellow Soft Forumers", and I say this - because I've also read some of your posting in other Threads within Soft.

Sometimes, if you do not know what to say - Don't say....and I will be moderating.

Now move on and be nice, and the last thing I wanna see is that this thread by the Thread-Starter gets "Lock-Up" - It's your Thread, so managed it well yourself please.

Thank You for your kindest co-operation!

Eric

ps: - we have indeed been very patient/tolerant & nice to you (so dont take advantage of the situation) ... learn to live with the Community here peacefully and remembering too that when we say "Be Nice" - you be nice....and dont even think about challenging or arguing over this here cause it's our Perogative...Now Move On and we mean it.
 
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layla, i'll never hold back if im right. That explains i talk too much.

correction, you never hold back if you THINK your right.
plus soft is not somewhere you vent your anger.

anyways, your so defensive, your giving out opinions and commetns yet you cant accept others.

if this is how things are going to be, dont bother starting another 'rant' thread.
 
I do know what to say thats why i keep posting. and im being logical about everything i said.
which posts prove that im not nice, Rudimentaldrummer?
i would like to say im not taking advantage of any situation rite now and thats true.

yes i agree we should learn to live with the community peacefully. Like someone said.. focus on the topic. Makes everyone life easier.

Aki, hope it pleases u with the correction. I let it be.
i did not vent my anger. which opinion/s did i not accept?
Is it the one that i talk too much?
yes I accept that. I know i talk too much becoz I 'll never hold back, replying post after post that I can.

i didn't rant (meaning of rant: To speak or write in a angry or violent manner)
 
=rockito


now what is that suppose to mean?
oh well, im here to learn and make new friends, not to make enemies or make peopel hate me.

anyways enough of this. Im out of here.
i rather spend my time on soft learning about new things.

like one of the previous softies said.

"your too dense"
even denser than mahogany.

karma baby, karma...
 
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