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[junkiemanxl]

I have some standing orders when i buy or sell here.

If dealing with guitars, it would be handy to have a VOX amplug. I always use it to test if the seller or buyer wont do testing due to inconvenience.

If dealing with pedals. It would be good to have a 9v and a patch cable to test the power supply is fine but then again, there might be some other issues pertaining the pedal.

Always best to try first before buying or selling. it saves a lot of misunderstandings if unforeseen circumstances happen later on. I will usually insist on testing even when i am selling.

 

[ep.tjan]

i need opinion too here guys:

I traded one of my guitar with a fellow SOFTIE about more than a week ago, guitar was brought over to his house for testing and inspecting purpose. After that he agreed to trade the guitar. However, he came back to me after a while (more than a week) and tell me that the guitar was lemon and complaining bout this and that. he told me that he didnt have much time to test the guitar at that time (again, the transaction made at his house by his request and because he's got amp too) - in short he insisted to get his guitar back. However, the guitar that i received from him has been SOLD and there's no way i can get it back. So here's the catch:

- Should I be responsible for his neglect??
- Should I be paying to set up the guitar??
- or Do nothing at all.

Let me know what you guys think bout it...

 

[taypeng81]

whats the problem with the guitar...?

 

[velvetrevolver]

do nothing.

the deal was done at his house, where he could have gone thru every inch of detail. and im sure you werent rushing him, since it was his place. and to actually respond to him after you have traded the guitar for more than a week shows that you are responsible person, instead of disappearing.

talk to him nicely, tell him that he made the choice to take the guitar, and since his guitar has already been sold, there is nothing you can do about it. one suggestion is you may, at the new guitar owner's consent, give the so-called "cheated" guy his phone number, and let them work out something. maybe the new guy is willing to sell it to him or etc.

i'd like to know wat happened. keep us posted man. out.

 

[ep.tjan]

he said there are some buzzing and S1 switch a lil bit on-off problem. That's it..

 

[Dinky]

thats the main idea of this thread. but I think some don't get it.

while buyers need to test what they buy, I think sellers must test their items too before they sell it.

how's the dd6?you didnt try that when you met me for the sales.
hahaha

 

[ep.tjan]

velvet,

as the matter of fact, i offered him to trade with my other guitar. But he refused it. I talked to him nicely that it was his neglect not mine since the deal was done at his place. I will talk to the guy who bought the guitar from me, and ask whether he would allow me to give his number to the so-called "cheated" guy.

I feel so unfair when he threatened me that he is going to post things up and saying that i have cheated him, which i don't agree to be accused like that.

 

[mrekoj]

from what u said, u did nothing wrong, i think u should stay firm and not entertain him

 

[ep.tjan]

If i don't reply his message that wouldn't be nice right? i believe there's a way to settle this dispute.

 

[velvetrevolver]

ep.tjan,

its just not right man. but no worries. you did the right thing.

a slight buzz and the S1 prob shldnt be too expensive to rectify. can be self-remedied if he's (or maybe you; a lil' bit of customer service here....) got the know-how.

 

[PatheinRaindropMoe]

imho

1) Since the other party is a "softies" as well, so most likely theres chance of him/her seeing the thread. So indirectly, you have that wee bit of advantage by posting it first before the other party blow up the thing

2) The person who bought the traded guitar is an innocent 3rd party, he should not have to deal with the problem due to the seller and the trader.

3) Be open with the trader, since you have already offer to trade other guitars and he refused, if you want to be "nice", offer to pay for the cost incurred to solve the problem with the guitar. If trader still refused, heh, it just seem that by refusing the trade for other guitars and someone paying to solve the problem, trader might have feeling of regret over the trade and just want to get back what he has originally.

and if thats the case, hehe, the rest is up to you

4) If all things fail, being a nice fella, then give it to him and let the thing blow up

5) A trade is a deal between both willing party and in no way of being forced. In case when one regret over the deal, hehe, in the first place, theres no black and white to document the whoe thing other then the trust of guitar playing folks. Whats there to fight over or to exercise the rights?? Hehe, fly kite more likely. Can be a bastard, can be a nice guy, but when nice is being taken for fun, then consider being the bastard.

 

[mrekoj]

If i don't reply his message that wouldn't be nice right? i believe there's a way to settle this dispute.

i dont mean to ignore him totally, perhaps tell him nothing can be done
it was tested before the trade
one week has pass
his guitar is gone

 

[ep.tjan]

I have stressed it out bro, that the guitar has been sold and there's no way i could get it back. Oh well, he said that he will keep lookin at my site and see what might interest him though.

 

[superpotato_30]

If i don't reply his message that wouldn't be nice right? i believe there's a way to settle this dispute.

eric? i believed i purchased the gibson classic custom in antique white from you a while back through ur cousin hahas.

Hmm. Honestly i feel, no you shouldnt be responsible. The transaction was over a week.. i dont believe this guy takes a week to test out the guitar even if lets say he played if for 5 mins a day. There is absolutely no proof the buzzing or wadever is your fault. Ask him to check his cable or the wiring. When he traded the guitar with you it is thus your right to do whatever you want with it, ( robbing a bank with it, burning it selling it etc. )

You are in no wrong but rather caught in a situation. I suggest u explain the situation to him and if hes reasonable he would do the necessary.

 

[ep.tjan]

Hi Superpotato, yeah i still remember you bought that brand new Gibson LP Classic Custom from me. Still with you ? hahaha.. let me know if you wanna sell it coz it's a super nice guitar.

Anyway, yeah, i have already explained it to him.. just let see what's comin up next. hahaha...

 

[superpotato_30]

Hi Superpotato, yeah i still remember you bought that brand new Gibson LP Classic Custom from me. Still with you ? hahaha.. let me know if you wanna sell it coz it's a super nice guitar.

Anyway, yeah, i have already explained it to him.. just let see what's comin up next. hahaha...

yep its with me. Looks like this ones a keeper :twisted:.

Btw dont feel threatened by such,' oh im gonna post things about you and destroy your rep and business' rubbish. People who have dealt with you know the sort of person you are. Such threats are just meant to make you compromise for in this case it appears the fault is not yours.

And yea i suggest not to get the owner of the new guitar involved. It really isnt his fault.

If the buzzing of the guitar is due to a setup issue, tell the fella to do it. Why the heck should you pay for it? If he can afford the guitar he cant afford another 50-80$ to setup the guitar? Thats pretty lame.

 

[faizal_rocks]

Whenever I buy 2nd hand guitars from anyone, I will always get them setup to my preferance , no matter what. Different setups for different people. Some ppl like me can tolerate little buzzing on the guitar as long as it does not affect playability but some ppl are very picky of problems like this...imho, the new owner has to get it setup himself. He can't expect u to go thru the hassle and settle it since it's his guitar now.

 

[antishred]

Here's my take for all the sellers. If you are really honest in selling your stuff and you know that the item you are selling is not in top working condition, you should inform the buyer first hand. Not telling that the item is not in acceptable condition is considered dishonest. I know it is the duty of the buyer to test the item but sometimes there is no time or no means to test.
If you inform the buyer, he would likely buy the item anyway because he is now trusting you.

 

[velvetrevolver]

im sure someone like ep.tjan would be honest in his deals, and to notify the other party of any damages or etc. he's got a site dealing with guitars and all so he's got a reputation to uphold, somewhat.

ok, perharps my suggestion of getting that 3rd guy to deal with the unhappy guy was wrong. i guess its true, like someone posted above, better not to let that guy get involved (poor fella, lol)

 

[SmFizz]

yea i agree, dont get a third party involved. just settle it with the guy by urself..its his fault anyway. Somemore one week after the deal...