how bad is NS?

John, you didn't have a good time eh?.. Actually, in the army, I eventually made it to the band - the SAF band, not MDC. Playing the trumpet. Worst experience - had to play bugle call (solo) on one of the recruits POP in Nee Soon camp. It was evening. They made me climb to the roof of the main building (about 7-8 stories high?), made me stand on the ELEVATED EDGE of the roof (there was no railing, no safety net, no parachute - tip of my boots were hanging over the edge) and had me play by myself standing there. My legs were shaking like mad - one false move and it is plunging down 8 stories. Spotlight was shining into my eyes and I could not see anything. Had a few times when I had to play somewhere on the roofs (not with a fiddle...) - didn't like those times.

Anyway, disrupted and came back later as a MO. Much better life after that...
 
NS is shit. Agreed. Too much useless saikang and wayang, not on our part but the stupid regulars, but directly affects us men..just this week had to carry 100+ BMT style cupboards up 4 stories..carry until backpain..still got 2 more blocks to fill that's like 200+ more to go..all my company da..saf only destroy my life and back..
 
BMT was like holiday camp,

It was after that sucked big time. Worked 7am to 11pm everyday, no long weekends, constant 'cheong sua'...lots of workouts, lots of hours spent in mud, lots of responsibility, no jam band practice time....pay sucked big time too.

**good thing i accumulated lots of offs and leave...ORD early!!**

In general, Sucked b*lls man. "Band life" came to a stand still. Started only after ORD...

Then again...I heard the new Sentosa army got 5 day weeks now, pay about doubled...and serve 2 years... can't be all that bad now.. :P
 
n.s. is nothing lah.

but then again, i'm in the police force. heehee.... office hrs some more. sentry duty lagi best, can take turns, can sleep for hrs, lunch time go gym. go home can jam under void deck. kena check i.c. by other police that got nothing better to do. kena army suey! every time hear people die. last year kena dunk. pressure until see counsellor. cannot tahan commit suicide.
 
eh damn sad noe.... the dunking guy from the company jus opposite mine knoe... den got this guy fainted during running...den passed away... my Platoon Sergent leh.... very sad noe... i think about it ....life really very unexpected lar.... cannot blame anyone this sort of thing happen....
 
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Cheez said:
John, you didn't have a good time eh?.. Actually, in the army, I eventually made it to the band - the SAF band, not MDC. Playing the trumpet. Worst experience - had to play bugle call (solo) on one of the recruits POP in Nee Soon camp. It was evening. They made me climb to the roof of the main building (about 7-8 stories high?), made me stand on the ELEVATED EDGE of the roof (there was no railing, no safety net, no parachute - tip of my boots were hanging over the edge) and had me play by myself standing there.

Anyway, disrupted and came back later as a MO. Much better life after that...

Medical graduate always has the best stint in NS, you practice your profession while serving. For us NSF, especially men level, end up
playing hide and seek with the regulars.

For my 2-1/2 years, I went to the funeral three times; how bad it can
be fellow commrades died not because of training, all accidents. The first one is a regular 2nd Sgt - died during a tank race competition training, the second is a recruit got knock down by a car while water party marshalling for a half marathon, the third a camp 3rd Sgt died in a motor cycle accident.

During BMT, one guy sleep opp. me committed suicide becos an instructor keeps f**king him during the arms drill before the live firing range. Go slashed his wrist with a baynoet but didn't die, later txfer out.

So many people down-grade, and 80% are all non-geniue. One 3rd sgt
downgrade becos of an ankle leg problem end up still can play soccer in Brunei while the whole battalion goes out for topo. What a disgrace !?

wayang here, wayang there, 2-1/2 years wasted down the drain.
ya lah, do learn some tricks here and there how to avoid problems.
Made some friends, and only during hard times these are the people
who come together to pull through will be friends forever.

I chose to play the clown for my 2-1/2 years NS stint.
Everyone in camp thought I will 'madi' in the outside world,
all surprised when I return for my reservist with a stable job.

You get to see funny people during NS. Have faith but don't
have blind faith. See through the people around you, look beyond
the acting and wayang, judge for yourself which is afterall for your
own good.

My BMT PC who is a regular is a very charisma officer, everyone respected
him and salute him. But all beyond his angel charisma, I saw the devil within which is of course to his all advantage. I lucky to be post out of his platoon and after which his horns came out during the later part of the platoon training.

To all going NS, the above is my advice. See and judge by yourself,
it's a dog-eat-dog world in there. Dun get con and dun get makan.
 
Actually, to think about it...all those wayang are all us...even in working life beyond...in school...even with relatives. That's how people are...most want to get out easy. I dun blame the regulars for wayanging sometimes, their job depends on it...

Funny that you mention it, now when i think about it, the casualty rate was really quite high. From training, where the Out Of Course level was about 50%++ due to injuries and stuff....Company roll call had only 1 1/2 platoon strength out of 4 training platoons. then for the rest of my 2 1/2 years, at least abt 5 serious injuries and another about 5 to 6 deaths...damn sad!

But I've only seen 1 person crack under pressure so far. Some useless trainee who cried and called his mother because we trained past 2am at night... the mother was so worried that she complained to an MP that her son is not getting at least 6 hrs of sleep everyday...ugh! That fellow would throw down his rifle and cry...literally cry as "roll on the floor screaming and kicking" type of cry... then when he book out, can see him with babes at orchard. I wonder what girls see in that useless cry baby......maybe he's rich....eventually that bum was downgraded with "mental illness"....although the last I heard he's enjoying life at NUS.
 
probably tell his sob story to the girl to make them pity him.... say until he very poor thing or something... its is people like them that make people like me who work so hard to defend our nation blood boil....
 
all i can say is i pity the parents and families of those who died..do u know the guy who was dunked and died was a hcjc student with straight As? Bright future..all gone..worth it? how the mother feel?
 
Jem007 said:
all i can say is i pity the parents and families of those who died..do u know the guy who was dunked and died was a hcjc student with straight As? Bright future..all gone..worth it? how the mother feel?

So was the road martial who was run down @ 190kph by the Ah Beng Honda Civic driver who was trying to escape from the Traffic Police.

If I meet this beng, I will beat him up personally for causing the loss of life as well as getting me out of bed at 3am to write reports on this incident.
 
lowjk said:
So was the road martial who was run down @ 190kph by the Ah Beng Honda Civic driver who was trying to escape from the Traffic Police.

If I meet this beng, I will beat him up personally for causing the loss of life as well as getting me out of bed at 3am to write reports on this incident.

Hi Low,

So you were active then? I remember the recruit was from 40 SAR.
That day really boring ah, everyone have to run the 1/2 marathon
and that's the time where about to ORD. Damn te-rok and jia-lat !
 
bongman said:
So you were active then? I remember the recruit was from 40 SAR.
That day really boring ah, everyone have to run the 1/2 marathon
and that's the time where about to ORD. Damn te-rok and jia-lat !

Accident was in 1995 (wow it's been 10 years).
My ORD 22 March 1996 (will not forget the date).
 
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bongman said:
For my 2-1/2 years, I went to the funeral three times; how bad it can
be fellow commrades died not because of training, all accidents. The first one is a regular 2nd Sgt - died during a tank race competition training, the second is a recruit got knock down by a car while water party marshalling for a half marathon, the third a camp 3rd Sgt died in a motor cycle accident.

During BMT, one guy sleep opp. me committed suicide becos an instructor keeps f**king him during the arms drill before the live firing range. Go slashed his wrist with a baynoet but didn't die, later txfer out.

Sounds sad. I had to personally attend about 8 funerals in during NS - playing the bugle - all I remember was 1 helicopter accident when 2 died, 1 tank accident (overturned), can't remember the others.
 
NS - reservist

Nowadays, they talk about Safety training in SAF during reservist.
Train hard but safely. Too many injuries and mishap caused too many lobo.
Man power down, need to keep the overheads up !!!

Well I say SAF has over the years try very hard to improve, look at the food
we are given compared to the early years. Combat ration also improved to suit local taste. I cannot say SAF didn't give the soldiers its fair share of welfare.

But my active days - the 2-1/2 years were really shit. I hope nowadays recruits are given better treatment - train with objective than keep whacking and te-gan !? The big excuse is always it's part of the training ??? What a big excuse ?! Can do what they want ? No wonder so many ppl wan 2 dwngd
 
Bongman you are kinda old i guess? Like 30s? Cause like now not so common with this type of news, my brother BMT instructor he say all very easy now ...
 
old ?

i not the oni old men here,
i tink there are some elvis fans here !?

any age limit here ah ? why no one mention ?
 
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