EHX Hum Debugger

Once the hum is eliminated, it'll go one full circle when people start to discuss the digital vs analog thingy when using the pedal :lol: *lol*

Personally, I feel that hum is acceptable lah...unless it's like freaking loud that it distracts the audiences, etc. Use the volume knob lah... :lol:

Single coil = hum!
Mai hum = not shiok!
 
heh heh.... running on AC means squat on pedals. There's always a regulator ic in there which will all ends up to be tadaaaaa... DC.

Why don't they just make it generic 9VDC and then regulate it to wotever voltage they like inside there? Beats me.

Anyway, a hum reduction unit CAN be useful for anyone using "poorly" designed drive pedals. You know the WOW its sound like a million dollars but it hums like a mofo when I stop playing or when I crank it up a lil bit more.

Or those who like to stack 6 overdrive pedals, its inevitable that hum will get thro.

A setup may sound great in a live context where it wouldn't hurt with a little hum BUT it will matter when it comes to recording. All hum will be recorded as well.

I'm still with the PM. MAI HUM MAI HUM... MAI HUM MAI HUM MAI HUM!!! :twisted:


noise is good ....

the ability to feel pain is good too ...

it tells u that something is wrong !!

The 60Hz hum is usually due to bad grounding of equipment and possible poor guitar shielding. Simple maintenance and some mods/upgrades can reduce hum to desired level without any tone coloration.
There are high end audio equipment with similar *noise suppressors* but are usually ignored ....

Btw ..if u fellas notice HD runs on AC ...that should tell us that it *might be* digital .. eg digitechWhammy ...or DSP maybe ... but the reviews are not favo ..
 
Hi, have u recorded with it ? Do you have clips to see its effectivity, besides that *one* which was shared ?

Please do not take anything personnal ... all i am saying is "There are possible alternatives to hum reduction than what is offered in that pedal"

and ...a few quote's from *possible* users who have left some kinda remark or experience using the above mentioned hum reduction unit.

running on AC means squat on pedals. There's always a regulator ic in there which will all ends up to be tadaaaaa... DC.

Only an idiot will design something like that for a 9vDC dominated pedal industry ..... why 7.5VAC ?? Becuase its ...oh well I guess you agreed on that bit :wink:

I applaud EH's new offering and i believe it will defienatly be usefull for those seeking squeeky clean noiseless operation.

But i will give it a miss .....
Finally, "We have 50 years of good music with "hum" ....so why bother "
 
heh heh.... running on AC means squat on pedals. There's always a regulator ic in there which will all ends up to be tadaaaaa... DC.

Humdebugger cannot run on batteries right? Only the AC adapter that comes with it?

There was talk on Aron's last time that it may actually use the 50/60cycle hum that is in the power line, to cancel it out from the signal chain.

All speculation of course.
 
Various audio and video gadgets has this technology incooperated, and some are even stand alone units for the very purpose of hum cancelling.
A *certain chip* is available in the market for this very purpose .... :wink:

....i prefer Lo Fi :lol:

here for those who wanna read more ...

Several circuits have been suggested for solving the problem of AC line-correlated noise being superimposed on the signals of interest. Some systems rely upon the use of notch filters which are adjusted to filter-out the noise. While this is a satisfactory solution to the problem of the AC line-correlated noise, it also removes audio information which is of interest. In addition, it also introduces distortion in the form of undesirable phase-shift artifacts to the frequencies that remain. An additional problem with this technique is that it does not adequately address field-powered (i.e. local power generation) applications where the line frequency may vary somewhat from moment to moment. In this case, the solution would be to widen the notch, which worsens the effect of the inherent drawbacks.

Another device commonly used to address this problem in musical instrument and professional sound applications is the noise gate. These can be fairly sophisticated devices whose function is to alter the output amplitude of one or more frequency bands of a signal based on the input amplitude. These devices, however, introduce their own amplitude distortion artifacts.

Other solutions include expensive adaptive canceling devices based on digital signal processors, and passive or active line-balancing devices which address only some mechanisms by which this noise is introduced.

The McCormick patent titled "Signal Cancelling Circuit" (U.S. Pat. No. 4,093,923) specifically discloses and claims a method and system for canceling a noise signal while preserving a desired signal of the same frequency. The method and system, however, contemplate transducers and signal levels which are very predictable, namely, geophones used in seismic surveys. Because of this, the need to provide gain/attenuation scaling at the input and output of the waveform acquisition/playback block in other applications was overlooked. This scaling helps the operator realize the maximum performance of the device with a variety of transducers and signal levels with a minimum investment in the waveform acquisition/playback block. In addition, the McCormick patent does not contemplate the elimination of phase and amplitude distortions typical of common solutions used in musical instrument and professional audio applications. Nor does it appear to recognize the ground loop mechanism, uncommon in geophone applications, as one which can be overcome by the device. Several circuits have been suggested for solving the problem of 50- or 60-cycle power supply signals being superimposed on the audio signals of interest. Some systems rely on the use of notch filters or comb filters which are adjusted to filter out the 50- or 60-cycle signals and their harmonics. While this is a satisfactory solution to the problem of the 50 or 60 Hz related noise, it also removes 50 or 60 Hz audio signals and their harmonics which are of interest. It can also introduce undesired phase shifts in the audio frequency range.

read further if you bother here http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5706354-description.html
 
Please do not take anything personnal ... all i am saying is "There are possible alternatives to hum reduction than what is offered in that pedal"

nothing personal taken man, I don't even take it personally when there are possible clones of my pedals!! :lol:

I'm just giving my views on the use of a hum reduction pedal. The other side of the fence or this side of the fence or sitting on the fence. The alternative to your alternative to their alternatives to the whole internet's alternatives. Its the internet after all and we are all deemed to be experts. :twisted:

As stated by my last post, I'd say that the HD useful for pedals that sounds great but poorly designed to reject hum. How can an end user without any knowledge of electronics know how to mod the pedal to get rid of the hum that maybe the designer himself can't possibly do so?

There's a use for this pedal Goose. Maybe not for you but for others like uglyfunk who did use it in the studio. The band found it to greatly reduced hum BUT it sounded funky when they did that chugka chugka guitar stunt. So keep that chugka stunt out when using the HD!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Some dude on TGP posted about this.

He was all gushing over how it really cured the hum when he played @ home/studio... it works.

Then later he posted another thread, to apologise for gushing so early, because, live volume, the pedal didn't work and there was a very noticable change in tone.
 
He was all gushing over how it really cured the hum when he played @ home/studio... it works.

Then later he posted another thread, to apologise for gushing so early, because, live volume, the pedal didn't work and there was a very noticable change in tone.

so its a STUDIO pedal. :lol:
 

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