double stroke accents
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RudimentalDrummer
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daltonsim said:
Accenting on the 2nd-stoke of the double is a Technique call (Pull-Out Techniques). THis technique takes years to master if you want to develop it to extremely-Fast Speed. The technique teaches us Control.
Overall - a double stroke using Pull-Out Technique will sound better than the normal....but it's hard to master ans thus many are not willing to put in the time to practice doubles using this particular technique - but the benefits are great once you acquire it.
My Instructor told me. Doubles ae actually not as simple as it seems - many till todate still don't get their doubles sound Correct, Good & Right.
Yes it is True, when you play Doubles using Pull-Out Techniques at Tremendously Fast Speed (which takes maybe 2-4 years of practice if you are willing) will even out the strokes when you listen....but average drummers will not be able to play Doubles using Pull-Out at very high Speed - and if you know this techniques and had listen to the SOUND - you can tell the difference - The Pull-Out Doubles indeed sound much better as it is more pronounce and clear.
Why then practice Pull-Out. If you could master Pull-Out, you can do the normal doubles closing both your eyes....cause it is more difficult to do a Pull-Out
yeah yeah RudimentalDrummer why you reply? i started this thread way back when i dint know stuff yet. just came back to soft after a long time, and my thread still got people talking. i posted that i already got it.
so yeah, i'm fine and i agree now, you dont need so many pages for something so damn basic as a double stroke roll?daltonsim said:
RudimentalDrummer
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daltonsim said:
Wah...why so work-up ?...I saw these thread mah and I'm new here...If I start another Thread...people here tell me "Do Search"...then either way I kenna Hamtam...Did I offended you in any way even though Iput something in this thread or are you trying to start to frame me up for something here har ?
You must be very good now in your doubles now from the way you quote. "So Damn Basic" .....like I say Drumming Is Easy...To Master It (even a double stroke"...semms easier said than done...ypu must be an exceptionally Talented Drummer I guess>
ProgDrummer
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yesss. Practice on pillow is the best.
But personally i think ah... joshie is right to a certain extent in which you have to practice on the thing you're playing on.
BUT. what i read from the past pages. All i can say is, that you need practice.
everything and anything can be achieved with practice.
although there is some talent involved, but i do believe that if you're at a certain point of drumming in which you want to take on new skills, i think you've got it.
SO, practice everyone. practice to achieve. thats my moto.
as for everyone that wants to try it. all i can say, read the previous post from rudimentaldrummer, and try out from his pointers.
and do try to practice on what you eventually are gona play on. but if not, you can use a pillow, or practice pad, or putty pad, or even books.
no matter what it still bores down to HARD WORK.
cheers.
BUT. what i read from the past pages. All i can say is, that you need practice.
everything and anything can be achieved with practice.
although there is some talent involved, but i do believe that if you're at a certain point of drumming in which you want to take on new skills, i think you've got it.
SO, practice everyone. practice to achieve. thats my moto.
as for everyone that wants to try it. all i can say, read the previous post from rudimentaldrummer, and try out from his pointers.
and do try to practice on what you eventually are gona play on. but if not, you can use a pillow, or practice pad, or putty pad, or even books.
no matter what it still bores down to HARD WORK.
cheers.
yah dun fight now, wait till the exchange tht alfie is gonna do and then come and show or share wat u know. i'm gonna have alfie do me a favor and have a role call of who is who in the forum and we can show. then we can have something more constructive and whoever wants to punch me out can. sound abt right for u fellas? hehehe
RudimentalDrummer
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daltonsim said:
NO problem Brother...small mis-communication here then.
Actually I am really not trying to mean anything but I'm just stating the facts & mis conception that ....DOUBLES are deem to be very easy by many many Drummers...but in actual facts...it's difficult and needs plenty of practice to get THE SOUND Right......
NOt many Drummers can really do a Perfect Doubles (takes years from beginning that's what I was told & seen the guy I asked - played))...that's what Professional Drummers told me....and I think they might be right. I'm just sharing this info here to all.
yeah no hard feelings. dont want any tension between drummers. haha.
yeah i agree. doubles are basic as in they're straightforward. but they're totally not easy. my doubles aren't that good too. honestly i can only do even doubles at maybe 180bpm for 16th notes. which really sucks.
yeah i agree. doubles are basic as in they're straightforward. but they're totally not easy. my doubles aren't that good too. honestly i can only do even doubles at maybe 180bpm for 16th notes. which really sucks.
RudimentalDrummer
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Me too Bro daltonsim. I've been doing the stupid doubles for 3 months seriously..and I practice 2 hours on this Pull-Out Techniques everyday...and I still sucks.....The only improvement I realise is that my left hand seems to have a little better control nowadays and I can't do fast, cause my Left-Hand is lacking in terms of speed via my Right-Hand....BUt I still do it, cause my Sifu say - It took him years when he was learning the doubles...he advice me to be patient just do it....
Wah.."Just Do It" like Nike Slogan har..so I asked him How Many Years?...my answer was - It depends...my heart drop...I guess I am not so talented in drumming..so I might have to put in many years...just hope I have the Stamina & Disclipine to carry on doing it.
Cheers !
PS: even doubles at 180bpm for 16th notes is not bad liao - cheers keep going my Bro.
Wah.."Just Do It" like Nike Slogan har..so I asked him How Many Years?...my answer was - It depends...my heart drop...I guess I am not so talented in drumming..so I might have to put in many years...just hope I have the Stamina & Disclipine to carry on doing it.
Cheers !
PS: even doubles at 180bpm for 16th notes is not bad liao - cheers keep going my Bro.
learnt a lot there 