Casino: Yes or No
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Ai Yo. The Casino will be built. The Gov already setting money aside for the rehab centres for addicts.
They also want us to produce more babies too, have a big family.
So that when our kids grow up and start working, they can go play Casino.
So that the Gov will have more money, to increase their own salary.
What happens to them after they start playing isn't the gov's business.
The PAP also want their children to be rich what. That's why. got pattern what. Their offspring will run Singapore.
And the rich will get richer and the poor get poorer.
Be citizen also no use what. Casino issue cannot vote also. How often do we get to vote anyway?
Be Expat the best la. Can come in as CEO to a company cos we look up to Expats.
They also want us to produce more babies too, have a big family.
So that when our kids grow up and start working, they can go play Casino.
So that the Gov will have more money, to increase their own salary.
What happens to them after they start playing isn't the gov's business.
The PAP also want their children to be rich what. That's why. got pattern what. Their offspring will run Singapore.
And the rich will get richer and the poor get poorer.
Be citizen also no use what. Casino issue cannot vote also. How often do we get to vote anyway?
Be Expat the best la. Can come in as CEO to a company cos we look up to Expats.
Sentosa cannnot generate enough Tourist dollars for them. And their Uniquely Singapore Programme isn't working too well.
I guess the Casino is the best thing they can think of.
Bear in mind the gov isn't too creative either. They couldn't think of anything else.
They need the money. So they can make life "easier" for us with more money.
I guess the Casino is the best thing they can think of.
Bear in mind the gov isn't too creative either. They couldn't think of anything else.
They need the money. So they can make life "easier" for us with more money.
They also must put on a front too. They want Singaporeans to love and embrace them. At this point I would spit, but since Sars, they are tough on spitters so...
They want to "cover" everything. So we can't accuse them of not doing enough.
Like when they increase the GST. Shortly after that, they started handling out ERS shares to appease the public.
So now same thing lor. Start a Casino. Probably set up a gambling addict rehab centre beside it.
Than we won't say, "How come you never do anything abt the gambling problem if you foresaw this problem"
I think they "lost" some revenue when they started givng out baby bonuses. So they will make it back when the kids grow up. And our kids spend their whole life working, so they can give 100x the baby bonus amt back in taxes.
They want to "cover" everything. So we can't accuse them of not doing enough.
Like when they increase the GST. Shortly after that, they started handling out ERS shares to appease the public.
So now same thing lor. Start a Casino. Probably set up a gambling addict rehab centre beside it.
Than we won't say, "How come you never do anything abt the gambling problem if you foresaw this problem"
I think they "lost" some revenue when they started givng out baby bonuses. So they will make it back when the kids grow up. And our kids spend their whole life working, so they can give 100x the baby bonus amt back in taxes.
anep said:
I think that that is quite an immature point of view, being you are already contradicting what you say in your first 2 sentence (esp the bracket item).
I would not want to bring religon into the picture as all mainstream religon promotes a good healthy & moral lifestyle. Just that it's an individual's choice to sin or not, is not related to what religon that person believes in. We all know somebody who is a 'closet drinker' too, or who patronise prositutes. So it boils down to the individual choice.
stillwater
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Colarndo seems to have successfully speaked our mind ... at least mine :smt023
hifi_killer
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i believe there are restrictions regarding how often a local can go in there to gamble.
The purpose of the casino is to attract tourists, not for us to go in there. Judging from the responses, i believe most Singaporeans arent interested in gambling , we're only gambling for the fun of it, not for the money.Yes there will be a very very small minority who will be addicted to it.
if ur gonna start worrying about them now, wouldnt it be too late? People are gambling in other countries long time ago,gambling in illegal gambling dens, there is even online gambling now.
so if you dont build the casino, it wouldnt much a of a difference. People will still find some means to get rich dangerously. And if the casino do come up. the gambling addicts who frequent there, will be easily identified and given approapriate conselling. It would be better this way than if there were to mess up with some illegal gambling dens
yes gambling leads to death, if they not build the casino because of that, they might as well not import those cigarrettes, more people are dying of lung cancer. People die in road accidents too, so, vehicles should be outlawed too?
i know this is lame. but i hope u get wad i mean
The purpose of the casino is to attract tourists, not for us to go in there. Judging from the responses, i believe most Singaporeans arent interested in gambling , we're only gambling for the fun of it, not for the money.Yes there will be a very very small minority who will be addicted to it.
if ur gonna start worrying about them now, wouldnt it be too late? People are gambling in other countries long time ago,gambling in illegal gambling dens, there is even online gambling now.
so if you dont build the casino, it wouldnt much a of a difference. People will still find some means to get rich dangerously. And if the casino do come up. the gambling addicts who frequent there, will be easily identified and given approapriate conselling. It would be better this way than if there were to mess up with some illegal gambling dens
yes gambling leads to death, if they not build the casino because of that, they might as well not import those cigarrettes, more people are dying of lung cancer. People die in road accidents too, so, vehicles should be outlawed too?
i know this is lame. but i hope u get wad i mean
mikemann said:
i didn't actually think from your point of view.
yar, i agree. its up to the individual himself.
okok, i shouldn't haf included religion into the matter.
aniwae, when the BIG profit comes in, it just depends on whether the gov is gonna put it to good use or just make themselves rich(which is most unlikely). this is up to the gov's decision.
but, apart from the casino's profit, like i said, it will create more jobs for the locals(and the gov better not import workers from overseas), locals may also get increased income from their work/business(like u'r own store, cab drivers, anything outside the casino). these are the only points that locals can gain from the building of the casino since we cannot control it's profits.
i hope u get what i mean.
so theres no point arguing on what the gov is gonna do with the profit. we can only make the best from the outcome of the casino.
anyone wants to disagree?
HeartRockSingapore
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Maybe I should paraphase what I wrote about govt riches and state riches. It is quite common for people to view the government as making a lot of money. There is GST, COE, ERP, CORPORATE TAX, PERSONAL TAX, and so forth. Quite a lot of money taken from the people. But that's what most people can see and would prefer only to see. People also talk about government having fat pay packets.
Why people don't ask how much did the government spent on building the school they study in, the transport system they travel in, the lights to keep the streets bright, the ambulance, the hospitals, police stations, fire stations and the homes for the sick, old, paralysed, retarded, orphans and salaries for all those people who work inside these services?
If the government takes all that money from the people but did not spend on education, transportation, infrstructure, health care, security etc etc then the government deserved all the spitting, don't bother whether sars or no sars.
This is the paraphased version.
Why people don't ask how much did the government spent on building the school they study in, the transport system they travel in, the lights to keep the streets bright, the ambulance, the hospitals, police stations, fire stations and the homes for the sick, old, paralysed, retarded, orphans and salaries for all those people who work inside these services?
If the government takes all that money from the people but did not spend on education, transportation, infrstructure, health care, security etc etc then the government deserved all the spitting, don't bother whether sars or no sars.
This is the paraphased version.
3notesAbar
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There are so many perspectives from which to view this matter. Moral, Economic, Liberal, Communistic etc etc etc....
Question to me has always been: Is it in the interest of the general public or the government to 'further legalize' gambling? (seekz)
MORAL: Like Chan Min's point - People can always make mistakes in ANY environment. It happens everywhere. We always try to deal with this given the changes. Is this really any different?
Issue of liberty: Simply put la. Do we have a choice in this matter? Probably. But from the annals of SG history, a long shot la.
Economy wise, big question mark. Like someone mentioned,(sorry i got bad memory), we dunno / can only hope the revenue generated is put to good use. My personal sentiment is that the PAP is least (openly) corrupt among S.E.A. Dont forget that la pls...You go Indonesia and you'll be doing more than typing in forums.
I personally agree to the Casino idea. Why? I trust people to know how to take care of themselves. And really, i think its time Singaporeans stop being so sheltered and pampered, from things even like VICE. You want Democracy? No better time than now to start.
Question to me has always been: Is it in the interest of the general public or the government to 'further legalize' gambling? (seekz)
MORAL: Like Chan Min's point - People can always make mistakes in ANY environment. It happens everywhere. We always try to deal with this given the changes. Is this really any different?
Issue of liberty: Simply put la. Do we have a choice in this matter? Probably. But from the annals of SG history, a long shot la.
Economy wise, big question mark. Like someone mentioned,(sorry i got bad memory), we dunno / can only hope the revenue generated is put to good use. My personal sentiment is that the PAP is least (openly) corrupt among S.E.A. Dont forget that la pls...You go Indonesia and you'll be doing more than typing in forums.
I personally agree to the Casino idea. Why? I trust people to know how to take care of themselves. And really, i think its time Singaporeans stop being so sheltered and pampered, from things even like VICE. You want Democracy? No better time than now to start.
HeartRockSingapore
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Well said 3notesabar. Personally I felt it is better not to have, but what are the compelling reasons to have? It is indeed time for Singaporeans to take more ownership of one's own life.
oh no, i had another dream!
The world's largest beer (not THAT Larger but the Special One) emailed me and asked if they could advertise on SOFT. They will sponsor all future events and give me all the funds i need to execute some sleek projects. ie SOFT MEGA Music Complex. ha..haa..haaa..
Should I do it? I mean, SOFT is just getting along fine without them. Would it benefit SOFT's users? or would it actually harm us? ie, lured to drinking, dont practise instrument, playing skill deteriote.
:smt015
The world's largest beer (not THAT Larger but the Special One) emailed me and asked if they could advertise on SOFT. They will sponsor all future events and give me all the funds i need to execute some sleek projects. ie SOFT MEGA Music Complex. ha..haa..haaa..
Should I do it? I mean, SOFT is just getting along fine without them. Would it benefit SOFT's users? or would it actually harm us? ie, lured to drinking, dont practise instrument, playing skill deteriote.
:smt015
thor666
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HeartRockSingapore said:
i think they are. there's this website "families against the casino threat" (i won't post the link here, not looking to promote them) which wants to send a petition to the president of Singapore about it.
however, to 3notesabar's comments on democracy, I think the casino issue is sufficient to have a referendum, even if it may be insignificant/non-issue to others. if we should take charge of our lives, perhaps we should also have more say in what we want. i'm not advocating for or against the casino, but rather the concept of choice in this matter.
unfortunately the ruling government has been harping about ignoring the moral dilemmas of the casino, rejecting the notion of the referendum. The media doesn't make it better by tying up the issues of casino with jobs, money and profit-related activities.
afterdeath
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i think got it pros n cons lor.......
n i think if a cow dun 1 2 drink water, no1 can force lor......
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n i think if a cow dun 1 2 drink water, no1 can force lor......
:twisted:
rottenramone
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its nice to see this forum being aware of national issues.
my view is that if the govt has already mooted the idea, then one foot's in the grave to build it. they usually seek the ppl's opinion but will ultimately build it in the end.
but my gut feel is that we will have to compete with other established casinos such as genting and macau. the idea is to pull in the foreigners and not on our own locals. how will we pull the tourist money in when its so much cheaper overseas?
at the same time, how will we ensure that us singaporeans don't fall into that gambling trap?
its nice to see this forum being aware of national issues.
my view is that if the govt has already mooted the idea, then one foot's in the grave to build it. they usually seek the ppl's opinion but will ultimately build it in the end.
but my gut feel is that we will have to compete with other established casinos such as genting and macau. the idea is to pull in the foreigners and not on our own locals. how will we pull the tourist money in when its so much cheaper overseas?
at the same time, how will we ensure that us singaporeans don't fall into that gambling trap?
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