ATTN fellow SOFTies: this is absolutely ridiculous.

[EugeneSmasher]

I think some of us here are for some reason discriminated against. I must admit, I was flamed continuously by certain people on G4c forums just because I thought Samicks were good guitars (because I own one and they don't, obviously I know better) but they showed themselves to be boutique snobs who consider anything that's not boutique as utter bullshit, and people who don't own boutique stuff as cheapskates.

I'm still fighting for acceptance because people don't understand. From what it looks, Levan's also facing something similar. Most people like him, but unfortunately in his case there are some who are in a powerful position who cannot accept him.

Wherever you go, there will always be people who dislike you for some reason. I personally hold a lot of respect for Levan because he dares to speak up on things. Levan is a real man. That's all I have to say. This is Singapore, folks. There's no such thing as free speech.

 

[superpotato_30]

Hmm.. I would like to question why wasnt our dear 'muhzdr' banned from this forum entirely/immediately when he broke half of the rules in the guitar buy sell section..

I know he has no relation to this but im questioning the 'liabilities' to get banned? It was only after a period did his previous accounts get banned due to requests from various softies.

So why was our dear senior member whos had an account here for 8 years get banned over some interpration of a would be ' corrupt ' comment.

Do take into account that hes been one of the faithful forumers whos sticked with soft for quite more than 3/4 of the current new age softies i think.

Im not asking that you give him leniancy just because hes a senior. Im asking does he even deserve anything to get him banned in the first place? Search threads from and one will find that theres lots more crap from other newbies/forumers who forget the rules once in a while.

Im not telling you how to do your job dear mod.

Im just standing on the side i feel has been wronged.

Of course if this banning of our senior member is related to some personal/not publicised matter in the lives of both him and the mod, then i clearly claim whatever i have typed so far is irrelevant.

Thank you.

 

[spinofdoom]

Seems like Mr. Soft isn't gonna say anything anytime soon.

But yes, I think those who get banned for a slight joke which requires the INTERPRETOR to have the 'dirty' mindset to get it, isn't even fair?

 

[dudelove]

"When innuendo is used in a sentence, it could go completely undetected by someone who was not familiar with the hidden meaning, and he or she would find nothing odd about the sentence. Perhaps because innuendo is not considered offensive to those who do not "get" the hidden implication" quoted from wikipedia

there.. where's the justice. seriously? yes, there are minors that go on soft. thats the reason why innuendo is used.

 

[WJ]

WJ: I have point out that your point is valid if the subject in question wasn't an innuendo.

The controversial thing here is that, it was an innuendo. It had double meanings and at first sight is supposed to look innocent. That's what innuendos are all about. If someone find it offensive and reported it, who is actually to be blamed? Why shouldn't the benefit of the doubt be given to the poster that he had no intention of malice and that his comment was totally innocent and meant what flip22er explained it to be?

Who is to be blamed if somebody, who obviously has a corrupted mind (and thus thinking that the innuendo was "dirty" etc.), find it offensive? The person who assumed that it was offensive or the poster who might have posted it innocently?

If the "very young" you're referring to is able to see the "dirtier" side of the innuendo, are they still worth being protected from it? Get my point?

yes i get your point, but then again, isnt it the responsibility of the moderator to moderate the forum when he sees something he feels is wrong? as there are people who feel that those who see the dirtier side of the innuendo, are not worth being protected from it, there are those who react otherwise, its all up to the individual actually. and since james feel that it is too much, he as a moderator deleted the post acted as he saw fit. i did mention that the ban was a little harsh for something like this.
however, as some people have voiced out, this issue goes beyond stripping off wood and sucking the shavings etc, its about how forummers are unhappy about the way things are being run in this forum, shouldnt we have a look at james side of the story? ultimately this is between james and roninriot. even if james is "hiding" somewhere waiting for the flames to die out as people here are saying, how long can he hide out? he is afterall the moderator of the forum and has to address this problem eventually, he wont be able to just lie low and wait this problem to solve itself. i believe that he will talk to levan soon, and provide a justification to his actions.

 

[ryancrl]

James if you even read this, please I hope you publicly respond on this thread, without altering the other posts or deleting the entire thred. Change the preconceived notion of softies that this would be something u do without fail.

+1

I feel that going ghost all of a sudden just because of this issue is cowardly.

Deleting posts and banning members silently, is blatantly unacceptable.

And Levan was banned?

Long story short- he has been one of the most prolific contributors, to SOFT.com.sg and to the local music scene.

Okay. So EVEN IF Levan was just a member who didn't contribute much.

It was a quiet affair. There appears to be no explanation, and seemingly no offended parties.

Junior OR Senior member, this is STILL unacceptable.

I really hope that you will respond to us softies and clear this issue once and for all.

And by the way, if you really think what you did is right as a moderator, i don't see why there's a need to do things silently.

To the softies, i'm sorry for the harsh words, but these are my genuine feelings.

Genuine feelings can be posted on SOFT right? It gets me wondering now.

 

[Hydrofly]

Innuendo needs dirty interpretation to be dirty.

That summarizes everything. Anybody wants to contest that?

 

[vickomaniac]

eh hem im not taking sides but just posting in reply to hydrofly.

why the need for innuendos when we can all speak/type/write properly leaving no chance for misinterpretation?

 

[wjl123]

Ya i totally agree with Hydrofly.
I came by that comment and I did not even understand one bit of it and the next day Levan's been banned.

I think this matter should be looked into again, its really up to the reader to interpret the message, and Levan was conservative enough no not put direct messages in this public forum.

 

[LadyInTears]

yea i agree, it took me awhile and after some ppl's replies to understand
it was just a harmless joke, blown out of proportion,
i actually think its witty and smart, unfortunately levan has to feel the wrath of james power, again, its just the clever use of language, in which bears different meanings, in which its up to us to decipher

 

[visa]

eh hem im not taking sides but just posting in reply to hydrofly.

why the need for innuendos when we can all speak/type/write properly leaving no chance for misinterpretation?

because leaving room for interpretation makes life more fun. that's why we have poetry and literature.

 

[LadyInTears]

because leaving room for interpretation makes life more fun. that's why we have poetry and literature.

that's a great answer man, damn, im a lit student and i didnt think of this

 

[vickomaniac]

i see your point.
i myself enjoy making innuendos and injecting sarcasm into conversations with friends.
however if everyone spoke with innuendos the world would erupt in chaos because it's human nature to assume the worst.

so why not we leave the innuendos to our blog posts and private convos, so stuff like this doesn't happen?

hell soft is a public forum, james is just doing his job.

0.02 cents.

 

[BonAparte]

Maybe to James, that was really insulting and degrading, thats why he acted as such? Not taking sides though.

 

[optisailor2002]

i see your point.
hell soft is a public forum, james is just doing his job.

james is doing his job, but in a incorrect way imo.

like most have already mentioned, if he thought what he did was right, there is no need to quietly delete the thread and then proceed to ban levan.

 

[vickomaniac]

then what should he have done?
made a thread about levan, ban him, and make a public spectacle of him?

imo, this was not the best path james could have taken, but i for one can't think of a better.

 

[optisailor2002]

there is no need to make a public spectacle about it, just that based on levan's account he wasnt even given a warning about his post.

like most others, i think that he should have been given at least a warning about what he had posted instead of just being banned and his post deleted.

 

[meekahsoh]

Accusations aside, I think what we want now is an explanation. Okay, granted that the rules are listed at http://soft.com.sg/forum/message-us/20141-forum-rules-regulations.html and the moderators seem to be rather lenient with regards to the rules.

The question I have is, Why the double standards? Why is Levan banned even though there are other people who flout the rules? This reeks of bias and could be easily interpreted as abuse of mod powers.

I think we really want an explanation.

 

[Phil]

8 pages and still no reply from James. I am keen on listening to his POV, well, true-blue sillypore.

 

[XLayaR]

I always wondered how he made the words bold when he posted...