ATTN fellow SOFTies: this is absolutely ridiculous.
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LadyInTears
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well, a quick check on his account shows his last activity was at 12 noon..
now, will the real James pls stand up?
now, will the real James pls stand up?
BonAparte
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Type [.b]"your message here"[./b], take out the full stops.
SherT
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This is Sherwin here, posting back on my account now that I'm home. After reading through a whole day's worth of replies, I think this perfectly illustrates a point I was trying to make earlier, a couple of people here should be kicked for not thinking before they hit "Submit Reply"
p.s. I am going to keep this as direct as possible, lest I offend somebody by coercing them into a train of interpretive thought.
1. This is not a discussion of whether James is doing his job, it's a question of under what standards?
2. It's already been almost 12 hours since I found out about the banning from levan, and I still have yet to see a response from James around here. Everyone who's been harping on about the "it takes two hands to clap" bit, of course it does! Going by that assumption, don't you think that James should have taken up the matter personally with him before banning him without warning? Don't you think he ought to offer an explanation now that the issue's been made public?
3. If innuendos hurt your brain and you think they should be left out of public forums, you probably wouldn't understand them to begin with anyway, so what's the issue?
Sure, without someone to watch over everything this place would probably descend into total anarchy, but at the same time turning it into a cyber nanny state does more harm than good. Sweeping everything under the carpet encourages morons who know that they can get away with being vacuous, because they know that any backlash will be wiped out along with the idiocy.
The point I'm trying to make? Take this example:
www.tidesofblood.com
(Great now I will probably get nuked for off-site linking)
This was a great little community of gamers, skinners and map-modders in it's heyday. People there are forced to think before they post, or face the wrath of the forum's denizens. Nothing adverse ensued, in fact, quite the contrary. The quality of discussion and individual input remained consistently high (even though the proportion of toilet humour shared a positive relationship; if you think lerp's innuendos are horrifying, you should check out these guys). As a result, till this day it has survived, even through the supposed abandonment of the TOB project and it's eventual ressurection.
Now while I'm not suggesting that S.O.F.T. follow this model to the tee and that everyone look up posts by Turkey_Slayer to emulate his style, we could definitely pick up a thing or two from here.
I believe it's about time people started having to answer for their actions, and this applies across the board to the entire S.O.F.T. community at large.
p.s. I am going to keep this as direct as possible, lest I offend somebody by coercing them into a train of interpretive thought.
1. This is not a discussion of whether James is doing his job, it's a question of under what standards?
2. It's already been almost 12 hours since I found out about the banning from levan, and I still have yet to see a response from James around here. Everyone who's been harping on about the "it takes two hands to clap" bit, of course it does! Going by that assumption, don't you think that James should have taken up the matter personally with him before banning him without warning? Don't you think he ought to offer an explanation now that the issue's been made public?
3. If innuendos hurt your brain and you think they should be left out of public forums, you probably wouldn't understand them to begin with anyway, so what's the issue?
Sure, without someone to watch over everything this place would probably descend into total anarchy, but at the same time turning it into a cyber nanny state does more harm than good. Sweeping everything under the carpet encourages morons who know that they can get away with being vacuous, because they know that any backlash will be wiped out along with the idiocy.
The point I'm trying to make? Take this example:
www.tidesofblood.com
(Great now I will probably get nuked for off-site linking)
This was a great little community of gamers, skinners and map-modders in it's heyday. People there are forced to think before they post, or face the wrath of the forum's denizens. Nothing adverse ensued, in fact, quite the contrary. The quality of discussion and individual input remained consistently high (even though the proportion of toilet humour shared a positive relationship; if you think lerp's innuendos are horrifying, you should check out these guys). As a result, till this day it has survived, even through the supposed abandonment of the TOB project and it's eventual ressurection.
Now while I'm not suggesting that S.O.F.T. follow this model to the tee and that everyone look up posts by Turkey_Slayer to emulate his style, we could definitely pick up a thing or two from here.
I believe it's about time people started having to answer for their actions, and this applies across the board to the entire S.O.F.T. community at large.
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vickomaniac
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"3. If innuendos hurt your brain and you think they should be left out of public forums, you probably wouldn't understand them to begin with anyway, so what's the issue?"
if you dont understand them how can you successfully perceive them to be innuendos?
if you dont understand them how can you successfully perceive them to be innuendos?
LadyInTears
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youre missing the point..
SherT
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Semantics now eh?
An innuendo, by definition is
in⋅nu⋅en⋅do
/ˌɪnyuˈɛndoʊ/
–noun, plural -dos, -does.
1. an indirect intimation about a person or thing, esp. of a disparaging or a derogatory nature.
Deriative of this, an intimation is
in·ti·ma·tion
\ˌin-tə-ˈmā-shən\ noun
1. to make known especially publicly or formally
Basically, what I'm saying is, if the words of the innuendo and not the innuendo itself were a collective rock, and I threw it at your head, would you know when it hit you?
An innuendo, by definition is
in⋅nu⋅en⋅do
/ˌɪnyuˈɛndoʊ/
–noun, plural -dos, -does.
1. an indirect intimation about a person or thing, esp. of a disparaging or a derogatory nature.
Deriative of this, an intimation is
in·ti·ma·tion
\ˌin-tə-ˈmā-shən\ noun
1. to make known especially publicly or formally
Basically, what I'm saying is, if the words of the innuendo and not the innuendo itself were a collective rock, and I threw it at your head, would you know when it hit you?
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vickomaniac
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pray tell, ladyintears, WHAT IS THE POINT?
SherT, i don't get your point in stating the definitions of innuendo and intimation ( i very well know the definitions thx), when it all points to what levan did, was to indirectly insinuate that working with wood carries the meaning totally unrelated to what the TS was asking about.
For the record, i bear no ill will toward levan, i find him a rather quirky character, and ingenious in his own way. so this can't be constituted to a personal attack, yes?
vicki.
SherT, i don't get your point in stating the definitions of innuendo and intimation ( i very well know the definitions thx), when it all points to what levan did, was to indirectly insinuate that working with wood carries the meaning totally unrelated to what the TS was asking about.
For the record, i bear no ill will toward levan, i find him a rather quirky character, and ingenious in his own way. so this can't be constituted to a personal attack, yes?
vicki.
AEnimic
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oh wait, damn...that's gonna get me banned too.
edit: I think Levan shouldn't have derailed the topic too much in that thread. He was pushing it too far, face the consequence of what you do. James always warns people of not staying in topic in some threads. I find it rather strict at times, but sometimes, people do need a good reply. But from what I see, what Levan did, deserves a suspension....no more than that..not even a perma-ban.
I don't know where this thread is going to, but yeah...I've gotten my share of warnings in this forum. So yep...if you want to make immature remarks, UG is the place to go. I always have my fun there.
Here, it's El Seriouso Land, my brethren. Not that it's a bad website, just a very Singapore website.
And I think Levan caught James on a bad day, so there wasn't a warning?
This is not a personal attack to anyone...it's just fun to see something like this sprouting up from a usually mundane forum such as SOFT. So here I am, trying to rock the hurricane harder.
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oh wait, damn...that's gonna get me banned too.
edit: I think Levan shouldn't have derailed the topic too much in that thread. He was pushing it too far, face the consequence of what you do. James always warns people of not staying in topic in some threads. I find it rather strict at times, but sometimes, people do need a good reply. But from what I see, what Levan did, deserves a suspension....no more than that..not even a perma-ban.
I don't know where this thread is going to, but yeah...I've gotten my share of warnings in this forum. So yep...if you want to make immature remarks, UG is the place to go. I always have my fun there.
Here, it's El Seriouso Land, my brethren. Not that it's a bad website, just a very Singapore website.
And I think Levan caught James on a bad day, so there wasn't a warning?
This is not a personal attack to anyone...it's just fun to see something like this sprouting up from a usually mundane forum such as SOFT. So here I am, trying to rock the hurricane harder.
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Uhh.. You guys the English se too best. Mine is no so goose.
So I is think the inneundo give two meaning but one is se hidden so only clever people is se can see.
Okay enough of the bullshit. (Am I gonna get banned for saying that?)
Standards differ and in a non profit organisation it is tough to maintain a high one as there is no tangible reward for doing so.
I'm sure many of us will take Levan's side on this but we have to take a step back and view the situation more objectively.
No one is gonna want to get into an argument with Levan who is obviously a prolific writer. It is darn intimidating for someone with a lesser degree of mastery of the language to try to argue with him.
So can we really blame James for not wanting to respond to this thread?
self-righteous bigot who probably doesn't even understand the meaning of the word 'innuendo' (or 'bigot')
And that is just plain rude.
So I is think the inneundo give two meaning but one is se hidden so only clever people is se can see.
Okay enough of the bullshit. (Am I gonna get banned for saying that?)
Standards differ and in a non profit organisation it is tough to maintain a high one as there is no tangible reward for doing so.
I'm sure many of us will take Levan's side on this but we have to take a step back and view the situation more objectively.
No one is gonna want to get into an argument with Levan who is obviously a prolific writer. It is darn intimidating for someone with a lesser degree of mastery of the language to try to argue with him.
So can we really blame James for not wanting to respond to this thread?
self-righteous bigot who probably doesn't even understand the meaning of the word 'innuendo' (or 'bigot')
And that is just plain rude.
emptyspaces
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This is indeed getting ridiculous.
10 pages of posting and James has not replied to the matter.
I think James should just ban those idiots who flout the rules multiple times in the buy/sell section instead of banning Levan.
10 pages of posting and James has not replied to the matter.
I think James should just ban those idiots who flout the rules multiple times in the buy/sell section instead of banning Levan.
AEnimic
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Should have a Friday Night Smackdown, Hell In A Cell match between Levan and James. Somehow, this is all because of a ban from a forum. How petty.
Seriously, ban James too! Damn, that'll be an awesome moment. Cause then Levan can't use his thesaurus of incredible words to bash James anymore!!!
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On a serious note, why did, a thread like this even need to exist? Levan and James should contact each other and solve this. Suspension la James, that's already good enough. Levan cannot tahan not posting on SOFT, he loves your forum. And honestly, some of Levan's threads are really helpful in informing upcoming musicians about the industry. So that kinda cuts down the "How to be successful in Singapore?" threads.
James you took the snake out of the field, now the mice are gonna run rampant and ask "How to be successful?" again. THAT kinda threadstarters deserve a perma ban in my opinion.
Seriously, ban James too! Damn, that'll be an awesome moment. Cause then Levan can't use his thesaurus of incredible words to bash James anymore!!!
SELF BAN SELF BAN SELF BAN!!! Anyone with me?!
On a serious note, why did, a thread like this even need to exist? Levan and James should contact each other and solve this. Suspension la James, that's already good enough. Levan cannot tahan not posting on SOFT, he loves your forum. And honestly, some of Levan's threads are really helpful in informing upcoming musicians about the industry. So that kinda cuts down the "How to be successful in Singapore?" threads.
James you took the snake out of the field, now the mice are gonna run rampant and ask "How to be successful?" again. THAT kinda threadstarters deserve a perma ban in my opinion.
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Ized
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Walao...its like alot of ppl already kenna banned before....thank god not me yet!
James has his own way to doing things here....We may not be fans of it but hey, its his forum after all......
Levan, take a chill pill lar..... Let's just wait for James to respond and not jump into conclusions........although i know that you have the upper case in hand. Cheers buddy.
James has his own way to doing things here....We may not be fans of it but hey, its his forum after all......
Levan, take a chill pill lar..... Let's just wait for James to respond and not jump into conclusions........although i know that you have the upper case in hand. Cheers buddy.
AEnimic
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Damn that's gonna suck....but firstly, I never subscribed to Starhub cable TV. And secondly, they better have a good reason to ban me. AND THIRDLY, not a big fan of wrestling..ban me...then ban lo.
Right here, right now....I am still confused why Levan was banned. James needs to say something if he wants to maintain a good relationship with the posters.
I just feel James not posting back, is not working that well, cause that kinda makes him appear arrogant. Being on the sidelines...I still wanna see a rocking Hell-In-A-Cell match!
Right here, right now....I am still confused why Levan was banned. James needs to say something if he wants to maintain a good relationship with the posters.
I just feel James not posting back, is not working that well, cause that kinda makes him appear arrogant. Being on the sidelines...I still wanna see a rocking Hell-In-A-Cell match!
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