Are UFOs real?!

aliens or intelligient life may exist, but the question is whether we, or the human race are
'lucky' enough to encouter such intelligient lifeforms during their entire history of their race.

Earth was probably form 4.5 billion years ago, however human history only began 10-20 000 years ago.

It was argued that Mars could previously support life. Even if such life forms existed, human beings did not came to existent during that time to witness or even interact with such life.


just to quote the famous drake's equation in search of intelligent life
say there are
100000000000 stars in the milkway out of these
10000000000 stars are in the habitable zone out of these
1000000000 stars have planets, out of these
10000000 stars have earth-like planets
100000 of these planets develop life
1000 of these life supporting planets develop intelligient life
100 of these alien race develop interstellar communications and transport,
If we consider the duration from the beginning of the human race to the end of the human race.
99 of such alien races have either not advance their technologies to develop such communications and transport, or the race do exist during the time of human life

SO that leaves us with hypothetically 1 possible chance of encountering such aliens.

Nevertheless these are all assumptions.

Assumptions based on human logic. :)

On a side note, not relating to the above response, I do not see how religion was pulled into this.
 
Assumptions based on human logic. :)

On a side note, not relating to the above response, I do not see how religion was pulled into this.



Most organized religion, major ones we have nowadays are counterfeited from Sumerian gods. Epic of Gilgamesh.

Gods are nothing more than egoistic cruel Extra-Terrestials from 'heaven'. More than enough evidence from ancient Sumerian artifacts to prove it.

Only those who're blinded by religion would deny the association.

Christians, Muslims, Jews, worship Alien Gods.

At the very least, the Mormons are not ashamed to admit it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nwEGsQM5CQ
 
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Light years is a unit of distance, not time.

Huh?!

You mean you don't factor time in when traveling in light years (or even traveling 'normally')?

It takes a second for a transmission signal to reach moon from our earth, and light years to reach some other planets and galaxies.

Given that the SETI program has yielded nothing in 40 years, it just tells us that the universe is so far and vast that we can't even fathom how exactly vast and wide it is, because our first signals have been gone for 40 years - that means it has gone quite far in terms of distance in that amount of time (40 years).
 
Most organized religion, major ones we have nowadays are counterfeited from Sumerian gods. Epic of Gilgamesh.

Gods are nothing more than egoistic cruel Extra-Terrestials from 'heaven'. More than enough evidence from ancient Sumerian artifacts to prove it.

Only those who're blinded by religion would deny the association.

Christians, Muslims, Jews, worship Alien Gods.

At the very least, the Mormons are not ashamed to admit it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nwEGsQM5CQ

So basically you're saying that more than three-quarters the human race who steep themselves in religious beliefs is made up of individuals who are nothing but servile, asinine, ignorant beings who act like sycophants for the sake of winning favours with these 'alien' Gods from outer space? And that the more informed religious leaders of the world, presumptiously more aware of the origins of their other-worldly Gods, are simply profiteering from the ignorance of their plebian followers?
 
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Once First Contact is made, ALL religion would be destroyed.

ahahaha.. now I get to use the phrase that i've been seeing here.

Pompous human! What makes you think the "aliens" don't have the same religion? What makes you think the aliens are not human themselves?

Guys, the bottom line is, we will never be able to fully confirm anything. OK, peace out. gtg
 
Come,

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it looks like a scratched CD...
I believe in aliens. i think James is one
hehehehe
;)
 
So basically you're saying that more than three-quarters the human race who steep themselves in religious beliefs is made up of individuals who are nothing but servile, asinine, ignorant beings who act like sycophants for the sake of winning favours with these 'alien' Gods from outer space? And that the more informed religious leaders of the world, presumptiously more aware of the origins of their other-worldly Gods, are simply profiteering from the ignorance of their plebian followers?

Absolutely. Huge numbers do not mean they are right.


This planet is literally littered with stupid religious people.

It's not surprising it would be a matter of time humans on this planet rid itself from each other because of religion.

Humans would have to start consciously evolving and wake up to the lies of religion or end up destroying each other or be destroyed by others who would not allow religion to shape the future of mankind.
 
ToneFart, you've succeeded in making me believe, now, please , take me to your leader and teach these pompous humans a lesson in Sumerian agriculture erm, i mean , history!

Hurrah! Hurrah!Hurrah!
 
Absolutely. Huge numbers do not mean they are right.


This planet is literally littered with stupid religious people.

It's not surprising it would be a matter of time humans on this planet rid itself from each other because of religion.

Humans would have to start consciously evolving and wake up to the lies of religion or end up destroying each other or be destroyed by others who would not allow religion to shape the future of mankind.

As much as i agree with you that there are plenty of stupid religious people out there who simply follow their whatever faith blindly, i do think there are some really important lessons one can learn from religion.

As for me, i do not see myself as a Christian but rather a Christian atheist, one who agrees with the teachings of Jesus but not believe in supreme power of God, which i find dubious, eg. the problem of evil.

I find that religion has really important teachings that we should learn from, rather then religion leading to shape the future of mankind. Sure, there are radicals who time and again cause more malice, again linking religion to destruction, but really. religion has changed thousands of peoples for the better, rather then destroying them.

I respect your views as i completely know where you are coming from, but still, i believe that religion would not in a million years destroy mankind. If we can put the teachings into good use, such as humility and integrity in our lives, the world would be a better place.
 
well this planet is filled with just as much stupid anti-religious and atheist people as well.

If its a matter of time before mankind rid itself from each other from religion. It would have done so already, we would have cease exist or natural selection would have eliminated religion completely.

But, presently you see many ancient religions still exists today! Perhaps this shows that these religions do have some adaptive qualities or survival characteristics on mankind that enables them to thrive through out the ages. Even if there is substantial empirical evidence to disprove the existence of God, religion will continue. Simply because the act of believing gives us strength.

Without religion there might not even be astronomy, much less aliens from outer space. European astronomy began somewhat because of religion same goes for imperial chinese astronomy. Many astronomers in the past present were deeply religious, Galileo, Copernicus. Presently, many astronomers, astrophysicists are deeply religious as well. George Lemaitre who proposed the Big Bang Theory was a roman catholic priest.
 
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I am Catholic and I do believe that evolution, the big bang theory and all that can co exist with religion so it's a common misconception. Not in it's entirety though.

As an example, with the big bang theory, all that matter had to have come from somewhere. God perhaps? And if you believe that the matter in the universe was always there, then I can say the same thing about God. There's no end to it. So why argue. =)

There is no concrete way to prove God does not exist and no universally accepted way to prove that He does. If God, as explained by most religions is omnipotent, then as a wild example, He could just do something to make our observations return empty or false results.

LadyInTears, you're thinking agnostic.. not atheist which disbelieves that any god or gods exist =)
 
WE ARE 1 PLANET IN AN INFINITE UNIVERSE ....

WE ARE NOT ALONE ....

Its just that if the aliens landed here, they'd prolly get caught & made into alien fried kwey tiau
 
ah, look up christian atheism.
i do not believe in gods, but rather i believe in the teachings of Christ.

ah.. apologies.. a confusing misnomer...

anyway, to get back on track, and to go against my previous posts.....

YES. Definitively. There are aliens. They used to live in another galaxy but settled on earth after a raging and damaging war against their own robots. My gf is number 3.
 
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