About true bypass

An easy way to put it is, let's say a pedal is true bypass.. Switching it on will let your signal from the guitar go through the pedal.. If it is off, the entire signal just continues from your guitar to the amp as if there was no pedal there..

If you have a buffered bypass pedal, switching it on will allow it your signal to go through the pedal and continue to your amp.. Switching it off will still cause your signal to flow through certain parts of the circuit in the pedal, and then continue to the amp..

Here's the general consensus on true bypass:
1) The tone is kept as natural as possible (your tone is not coloured)
2) There will be no loss of frequencies (eg. high end, mids)

However, buffered bypass has some gains as well.. Let's say your ENTIRE pedal board is true bypass.. You used around 15ft of patch cables there.. And you have 2 20ft cables to connect your guitar to the board and board to the amp.. The fact that your entire board is true bypass, you get a whopping FIFTY-FIVE feet of cables from your guitar to the amp.. Now, even using quality cables, you are bound to lose certain frequencies, especially the highs..

Hence the reason why some pedal-makers prefer to use high quality buffered bypass.. For example, the MI Audio Boost N Buff.. Obviously a booster is meant to be as natural as possible without colouring the tone.. But the manufacturer boasts its lack of true bypass to the horror of others.. But their true intention is for these "true bypass fanatics" who don't realise that ONE buffered pedal in the chain makes a big difference..

Just my 2 cents.. :mrgreen::mrgreen:
 
thanks for sharing, godspeed :)

but in this case, how we determine if the buffered bypass is good ?
just by hearing ??
my ears are as noob as my fingers, may not get it :(
 
How is that ??

I have no idea.. Haha.. I suppose you, the pedal builder, would know what it means? In fact I've only heard of the term when some dude was selling his Goose-modded pedal, and he said it has been changed to high quality buffered bypass.. Or was it Randolf-modded? Can't remember.. One of the available local mods.. Lol..

mrekoj
We can't really tell lah.. It gets more obvious when you have MANY buffered pedals in your chain.. But even then I still can't tell it apart! Lol.. My policy is to don't care just plug in and play.. :mrgreen::mrgreen:
 
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But their true intention is for these "true bypass fanatics" who don't realise that ONE buffered pedal in the chain makes a big difference..

I find that one good buffered pedal is a nice addition.

However, I'm a strange one, I actually have no buffered pedals on my board.

That's because I run my rig like this: 2 loops, clean and dirt. On clean, I have a compressor on most of the time (I like to keep my volume even) and on dirt, I will always have a dirt pedal on. That way, I have some thing on that tweaks my tone the way I like it.

Sometimes, a buffer can mess things up. I stress - SOMETIMES. Like with fuzzes. Or adding un-wanted highs. Cutting off the low end. Etc etc. Again, its sometimes.

So in my case, I have a TRUE pedalboard (that's damn metal) that's actually "buffered" in a way.
 
My policy is to don't care just plug in and play..
:mrgreen:
Yup .thats the way to do it...

Btw have a look at this little buffer scenario ....
bossbuffer.jpg

The above is a typical boss buffer with colored arrows pointing directions of signal.
Blue > guitar input
Green > effect
Purple > dry out

Now lets assume the Cin is of a typical 0.047uf and the Cout 10uf.
Since your clean has to go through the buffer (BJT) before being split, your clean tone is effected by Cin which pretty much cuts bass (i will refrain from talking about treble loss/add here).
But if you were to mod it to a bigger value the effect gets too much bass (you loose your tight pants:mrgreen:)

So pretty much what you do , your clean is goin to be affected by either Rin, Cin , 1/2V R and the BJT which may not be 'the correct' devices for a proper buffer.
It gets worst when you true bypass a buffered effect and leave the buffer intact on the effect part ..most time you can get away clean but volume mismatch lurks to surprise the uninformed.

So is the buffer good or bad?

It has it's purpose and understanding them will assist you getting you what you want/need.

Beside "taming" impedance making a high impedance input(guitar) into a low impedance output, buffers also keeps out any bleed through from "within the effect".
Without a buffer, each time you introduce another pedal or a cable, more noise gets into your system since guitar pickups are high impedance devices that are particularly susceptible to noise from power transformers, LCD screens, power cables and stage lighting. But if you introduce more buffered devices, stack em in a chain you will have tone degration and noise too. Read article below.

You can design or mod an existing buffer and enhance it's performance to suit (thats what was done to that "on sale" boss you just mentioned) and have it 'inline' with bypass signal to avoid mismatch.

Common Buffer types
opamp >> almost a perfect buffer.. in a scope the input and output will match exactly.

transistor >> less parts and some say it's a more musical sound but it is not a perfect buffer. ;) (just like you and me)

On the other end you have a Fuzz Face type which is a mother of low impedance devices(thats why the FF was one of the first true bypass pedal). Having a buffer (low impedance) before it just makes it go crap ... so here we need a switcher or a pick-up simulator to get the impedance right where the low output is bummed back up to drive a low input impedance device. This only applies if you are using an active(low output impedance) guitar or bass.

In conclusion , understand impedance ...

for some read
http://www.muzique.com/lab/truebypass.htm

must read
http://www.stinkfoot.se/andreas/diy/articles/bypass2.htm

more
http://www.whirlwindusa.com/tech03.html
 
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Sorry i was actually giving it to godspeed64 ....

Btw the answer to your question
so if signal doesnt pass through the pedal after it's power off, it's not true bypass ??

YES !

Yes to pedals using 'relay switch' too as they reset to TB if no power ....
 
all true-bypass and too many buffer is not good...so.. the ideal is to as many true bypass and at least one buffer in the chain? I heard this suggestion somewhere
 
aiksssss..... goose! a opamp buffer would sound BOXY!!!!

mwahaaahahahahahahahaa..... I jest I jest.... sorry couldn't tag along with pathein to your place, I was pretty damn under the weather.
 
Oh man that's some good shit right there! Hahaha.. Mind boggling.. But I would seriously love learning this kinda stuff.. It doesn't hurt to know what you're playing, and what you're paying for..
Kudos to goose for the info!
 
heh, knowing what goes inside, can come up with the 2 pedals you are using.

Knowing how to rock out, only can get frustration when our gear failed us
 
aiksssss..... goose! a opamp buffer would sound BOXY!!!!

I wonder if this is true. Hmmm... might as well do some sleuthing.

I know that that is the case in all the IC Chip dirt pedals I've heard/tried. The Seventheaven is a clear example of stunning amp-like drive so far unattained by ic-chippers.
 
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