AgingYouth
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Damn GLC siah. Feedback form all...
why you shouldn't support gigs with minimum ticket sales.
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rottenramone
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that way the goals can be measurable mah.
that way the goals can be measurable mah.
AEnimic
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hey everyone here!
well,at least give CAVE a chance..come down and support the show they're having...maybe you will finally understand the motive of the organisation..its very hard to put across tone and emotions through Internet..so I guess,come down and support and see the show..judge the organisation's sense of direction.
cheers
don't fight la,we all part of the scene..no need to find loopholes...if we get together,confirm can push the music...coz there are alot ALOT of bands worthy of recognition even those who are starting out...
well,at least give CAVE a chance..come down and support the show they're having...maybe you will finally understand the motive of the organisation..its very hard to put across tone and emotions through Internet..so I guess,come down and support and see the show..judge the organisation's sense of direction.
cheers
don't fight la,we all part of the scene..no need to find loopholes...if we get together,confirm can push the music...coz there are alot ALOT of bands worthy of recognition even those who are starting out...AEnimic,its not a matter of giving Cave a chance,it is whether you know what are you doing,if you continue supporting this system of getting tickets for organizers,come on,do you know that a seed eventually grows into a tree?
Since no one knows the future,to play safe,dont involve so much money issue for creating gigs opportunities,dont let them gain the upper hand you know.You have to understand that this policy works for the organiser,as a musician who is really serious (unless you are not,and cant be bothered),you really need to think carefully.
Since no one knows the future,to play safe,dont involve so much money issue for creating gigs opportunities,dont let them gain the upper hand you know.You have to understand that this policy works for the organiser,as a musician who is really serious (unless you are not,and cant be bothered),you really need to think carefully.
seekz
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Look. Its a two way thing. You're selling tickets so that you have an audience.
If you can't sell any tickets then who the hell do you want to perform to?
I can't seem to understand you concept of:
Play it safe? dont involve so much money?
gig organisers play it stupid and pay for everything?
You sound so concerned and skeptical. But do you know what are you guarding against?
If you can't sell any tickets then who the hell do you want to perform to?
I can't seem to understand you concept of:
Play it safe? dont involve so much money?
gig organisers play it stupid and pay for everything?
You sound so concerned and skeptical. But do you know what are you guarding against?
first of all, i never said that- in fact i am suggesting the inverse, that it should be up to the promoters to sell their events, and the bands should help out but not to an extent where the promoters do not have to be bothered.
everybody in any industry has to be a successful salesperson to be recognized.
when you are a musician or a songwriter, when you are asking people to listen to your music, you are selling yourself and your songs and your performance- the people are paying you their time and attention, and when you release your albums and shows, money as well.
when you go to a job interview you are selling yourself to the employer, by highlighting your good qualities, etc.
a musician or performer who doesn't know how to sell himself or his songs will not gain recognition and success from his bedroom. when you put your songs on myspace and spread the word, that's selling yourself. it will translate into ticket sales and album sales if effective.
everybody in any industry has to be a successful salesperson to be recognized.
when you are a musician or a songwriter, when you are asking people to listen to your music, you are selling yourself and your songs and your performance- the people are paying you their time and attention, and when you release your albums and shows, money as well.
when you go to a job interview you are selling yourself to the employer, by highlighting your good qualities, etc.
a musician or performer who doesn't know how to sell himself or his songs will not gain recognition and success from his bedroom. when you put your songs on myspace and spread the word, that's selling yourself. it will translate into ticket sales and album sales if effective.
penta-tonic
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ah music is music. u wanna do wat den do wat la. organisers wanna make min ticket sales then do so la. pple who can sell out sell out la. and for the rest of us who are just content with playing what ever we wanna play whether the dumbshts appreciate it or not is another matter.
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CAVEvents,i am not telling or asking anyone here about their idea whether success should be measured with amount of tickets sold or the number of people you can bring to a show.Obviously,everyone has their own definition of success.
But if you are selling your music,in terms of "selling",then i would rather not be the one who buy such an album,you know what i mean?
But if you are selling your music,in terms of "selling",then i would rather not be the one who buy such an album,you know what i mean?
first of all,i will not answer this question of your's,as you know the answer. When a songwriter writes or a performer perform,are they trying to "sell" as what you have been blatantly calling it?their art? is it selling?
We are only presenting an art,whether they hear or not,buy or not,it's a totally different matter.You want to equate something which is not tangible with a job interview? think twice.
We are only presenting an art,whether they hear or not,buy or not,it's a totally different matter.You want to equate something which is not tangible with a job interview? think twice.
as per dictionary definition:
sell
verb, sold, sell·ing, noun
–verb (used with object)
1. to transfer (goods) to or render (services) for another in exchange for money; dispose of to a purchaser for a price: He sold the car to me for $1000.
2. to deal in; keep or offer for sale: He sells insurance. This store sells my favorite brand.
3. to make a sale or offer for sale to: He'll sell me the car for $1000.
4. to persuade or induce (someone) to buy something: The salesman sold me on a more expensive model than I wanted.
5. to persuade or induce someone to buy (something): The clerk really sold the shoes to me by flattery.
6. to make sales of: The hot record sold a million copies this month.
7. to cause to be accepted, esp. generally or widely: to sell an idea to the public.
8. to cause or persuade to accept; convince: to sell the voters on a candidate.
9. to accept a price for or make a profit of (something not a proper object for such action): to sell one's soul for political power.
10. to force or exact a price for: The defenders of the fort sold their lives dearly.
so yes, i would say that when a performer performs, he is selling his performance to the public.
sell
verb, sold, sell·ing, noun
–verb (used with object)
1. to transfer (goods) to or render (services) for another in exchange for money; dispose of to a purchaser for a price: He sold the car to me for $1000.
2. to deal in; keep or offer for sale: He sells insurance. This store sells my favorite brand.
3. to make a sale or offer for sale to: He'll sell me the car for $1000.
4. to persuade or induce (someone) to buy something: The salesman sold me on a more expensive model than I wanted.
5. to persuade or induce someone to buy (something): The clerk really sold the shoes to me by flattery.
6. to make sales of: The hot record sold a million copies this month.
7. to cause to be accepted, esp. generally or widely: to sell an idea to the public.
8. to cause or persuade to accept; convince: to sell the voters on a candidate.
9. to accept a price for or make a profit of (something not a proper object for such action): to sell one's soul for political power.
10. to force or exact a price for: The defenders of the fort sold their lives dearly.
so yes, i would say that when a performer performs, he is selling his performance to the public.
superslinky
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hey visa.. this won't do ur NEW events management any good... realli.... go low n make it big... that will be so much better...
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