tube amp with good cleans

[gsonique]

If you look back on Luthers for a few weeks you will see a couple of guys selling the Silverface bassman 135 for $600 or $800. The reasons are the weight (bloody heavy) and the sound - clean, clean and loud (135 watts).

I did see silverfaces for less than $1,000 last year. Bassmans are cheaper due to the lack of reverb, but the sound is nice anyway. Clean tone needs power so that they don't overdrive.

cheers,

Mark.

Spot on for bassman...pedal friendly as well !! :wink:

 

[daryl]

thanks thanks will take my time to choose.. not in a hurry anyway hha. will probably get the amp when i move a few months later.

 

[subversion]

Marshall's DSL401 has one of the better clean tones this side of Fender.

of course, any mention of this amp will give rise to inevitable discussions of its over-heating issue, which is half mythical...

 

[Dongara]

MArshall DSL's - don't go there.

Had to repair three burnt ones before and one I couldn't repair. If you want to buy, then buy new and keep an eye on it. On one of the DSL pages they suggest putting a fan and a heat sink inside before the overheating beccomes an issue

The amp does sound nice, but has that caveat - conside the overheating issue. Vox's had the tubes mounted on the chassi, not the PCB board, so the heat ffrom the EL84's, more than most power tubes, was not an issue.

Always make your decisions by weighing up the pros and cons. Bassman 135's are great, but bloody heavy as are the silverface twins. Some of the best cleans I have heard are from the old Jazz chorus 50's. Light and sweet sounding. The new ones don't have as nice a tone due to the speakers and the build quality and the old ones are very hardy.

cheers,

Mark.

 

[subversion]

having owned the DSL401, i deem the user-related issues to be largely negligence. having known the heating capacity of this amp, it is the onus of the player to ensure temperature check- placing a fan at the rear is a simple but crucial consideration.

 

[gsonique]

having owned the DSL401, i deem the user-related issues to be largely negligence. having known the heating capacity of this amp, it is the onus of the player to ensure temperature check- placing a fan at the rear is a simple but crucial consideration.

But why build and sell an amp that overheats ? :roll:

 

[edder]

Some of the best cleans I have heard are from the old Jazz chorus 50's. Light and sweet sounding. The new ones don't have as nice a tone due to the speakers and the build quality and the old ones are very hardy.

yeah!!!! got one which i replaced with a 12" EH speakers thats supposed to mimic some celestions... My workhorse.

 

[ciel]

having owned the DSL401, i deem the user-related issues to be largely negligence. having known the heating capacity of this amp, it is the onus of the player to ensure temperature check- placing a fan at the rear is a simple but crucial consideration.

But why build and sell an amp that overheats ? :roll:

the amp does sound nice bt the overheating thing is a prob.

if u play at home just blow a fan into the rear i guess..

 

[fenderfan]

having owned the DSL401, i deem the user-related issues to be largely negligence. having known the heating capacity of this amp, it is the onus of the player to ensure temperature check- placing a fan at the rear is a simple but crucial consideration.

err... sound's more like manufacturer negligence.

 

[subversion]

But why build and sell an amp that overheats ? :roll:

due to some commercial overtones (forgive the pun), the manufacturer is more interested in obliging market demand despite the oversight- as long as it's feeding their piggy...

 

[BoogieMan]

But why build and sell an amp that overheats ?

Hey Guy's,

I used to sell all LOT of Marshalls in Australia. They have to be some of the toughest most reliable TUBE amp on the market. You have to bear in mind that Marshalls are built in England, mainly to cater for the largest musical market in the world, the USA. So when it comes to a tiny consumer markets like Singapore and Australia, we are both 1-2% of their whole market combined. The USA is about 50% of the world market. We don't really matter. On top of that issue, Singapore is a hot and humid place, so that won't help the amps much at all. So it is up to the owner to look after it and keep it as clean and dry as possible.

Hope this helps you \m/

 

[Grain]

usr

Learn sumtin new here.
Thanks BoogieMAn...

 

[gsonique]

ya BoogieMan hopefully they will read ur post and send you some nice paper weights ...
Btw batman ..the Hybrid Marshall at your place was nice...as you know i have trouble using them ...

 

[Indigo_blues]

think just play the marshall in an aircon room. Set the room temp at 16deg celcius. :lol:

 

[suspend_thought]

I don't think the conditions really -matter-. Singapore might be hot all year round, but other countries have seasons and while there might be no problems most of the time, their summers are definitely hotter than ours.

so it probably just boils down to how you take care of it, knowing of it's possible overheating problems.

the question is, is the amp still a good investment?

 

[BoogieMan]

Humidity is more of a problem than dry heat for electircal components. But I do stress that it is up to the owner and how they look after their gear. My guitar player has a TSL100 and he has no problems.

 

[ShredCow]

hmmm.... when I buy gear, I want my gear to be quality gear, and I think an overheating issue, isn't quite on par with quality.

Climate "issues" a valid excuse for poor design?

 

[fenderfan]

hmmm.... when I buy gear, I want my gear to be quality gear, and I think an overheating issue, isn't quite on par with quality.

Climate "issues" a valid excuse for poor design?

my thoughts exactly dude. a quality gear will encompass all aspects of the product.

 

[Dongara]

Darryl,

If you are still looking for the amp:


Date posted : 04 September 2006
Selling a Fender Bassman 135 head for $500, and a excellent condition behringer 4X12 cab for 250. Call 93384940 to deal asap.
Email:93384940

Seen on Luthers.

Cheers,

Mark.

 

[Indigo_blues]

sounds like a good deal.