Singapore band no image?

[earsleep]

Before anyone bash me sayin ' u poser, its ALL about the music' let me say that i think that in rock, music is important but image is just about as impt as the music. So why not be great at both and be a band that stands out from the rest?

I think that why no one cares about sg bands, even locals are because theyre just replicating music that has been done before and they have no image that they can claim their own. LEts face it, we all wanna be entertained when we see our rockstars

imagine - beatles w/o their silly hair,KISS w/o their make up, slash without his low slung les paul and crazy hair, or A7x without their tattos etc.

i dont know you, i seriously wouldnt go see rhcp for free if they hav short hair, hangs their guitar up their neck and just stair at their fretboard and play rock, cause that doesnt 'rock'

even the japs have their own brand of bands in jrock. why do people from outside of japan notice bands like x japan and l'arc en ciel, kishidan even though they are playing songs in an entirely different language? and why do they hav such a big local following? that gave me some thought really

i think for an sg band to be recognised(locally or outside) they gotta be makin a music of their own style and has their own image instead of just ripping off other bands that aleady existed years ago....just my 2cents.

cuz i always see people going like 'why ppl wont support our music etc etc". ever occured to you that our bands simply arent as interesting as the other bands outside?

 

[imcorn]

they don't have to look interesting for us to support them.. its more about the music they churn out..

Let's look at this another way.. the main reason why locals don't really support local music is due to the fact that Singaporeans don't appreciate talent when they see it.. BUT.. if you make it big in other countries: e.g. you're a Chinese singer that makes it big in Taiwan.. and when u come back to Singapore.. you'll instantly become an idol

My main point is.. Singaporeans have a herd mentality.. we only support what has become famous in other countries.. so if you're a band that wants to make it in the local music scene.. i'd say you should start going on tour to Aussie or the US.. if you sort of make it there.. then you'll definitely get more fans popping up to welcome you back when u arrive @ Changi Airport after your tour 8)

 

[DoubleDecker]

Nothing to bash ... and it shouldn't be bashed. You do speak some truth in that writeup of yours.

Again, for every discussion there are always various school of thoughts. Some may say, if packaging is all that important, then we are not appreciating them for their talent. To a certain extend, yes I agree.

However, if someone wishes to have his/her music move in a better way, you will need some form of packaging that makes you and your music marketable. - just like any shampoo, car, panadols etc. There are certain aspects of music that musicians have to recognize or acknowledge, the business aspect of it. Why do artistes need managers, stylists and stuffs? Are they redundant?

Having either individually is not enough, you need to have both.

 

[earsleep]

imcorn

you're kinda right, but if you wanna catch the attention of overseas producers u need to hav the talent AND the right image.

if im not wrong, you're referring to sunyanzi, tanya, Lin junjie and guo meimei yea? They hav the voice and the looks that appeal to the chinese audience so they caught the eyes of the producer dudes overseas...

when i was new to the local scene it was ronin that caught my sight first. why? cause they have this albino singer that makes u remember em. Ive also seen acouple of other singapore acts that are more musically appealing to me than ronin but i kept forgetting their names because they didnt leave an impression....yep

 

[hopeandanchor]

:twisted:

 

[thor666]

I think the question is loaded - it assumes bands need to become big via image and talents.

I like the Observatory, Padres, and they don't need to dress up to be noted.

There are international bands like Radiohead, Oasis, Blur, U2 who don't really dress up and are famous as well.

Of course, if you want the fastest way to become big, just make a lot of news, whether it's positive or negative.

End of the day it's a choice whether you want to go down a certain path.

 

[RazrAsh]

but still.. image will the audience something to be remembered by... you have have exceptionally good music, but if u lack stage presence and image ppl wont remember u... just envision a band dressing in normal t-shirt and jeans, just playing hard rock but no hamming it up on stage, just standing there like statues..

now compare that with a band who plays exceptionally good music, dresses up really nicely or uniquely and has like individual and band stage moves.. which will you remember??

talent, image and presence go hand in hand to make it big..

 

[earsleep]

thor666

i like the observatory man, but ive never heard of padres. theyre pretty famous
in the local scenes i suppose but i dont think theyre that big beyond that. correct me if im wrong

as for oasis, radiohead and blur all the british-esque type of bands, they dress casual because thats their style. Because their music is more laid-back type you know. You don't play 'wonderwall' or 'creep' while spotting a naked torso that is heavily tattoo'ed with barbaric hair yeah?

i just think that a serious band should look the part depending on the songs theyre playing.

 

[DoubleDecker]

I think "personal styles" and "image" should not be confused.

"Personal styles" are just basically you and how you are and will be, be it on stage or off stage. If your supporters like it that way, good. From there, your "personal styles" become your "image". You don't need to do much about creating an "image" for yourselves.

There are also artistes with heaps of drive and talent but they lack that "personal style" and that is where external "image" will come into play. You can have a nerdy guy with thick glasses, Chinatown singlet and Uncle-like shorts who does exceptional music but is that going to go down well on stage? You still need the "packaging" and "image" to enhance his talents but that should not be the top priority in my opinion.

If "image" are not important, then that means the designers, stylists, photographers, marketing and PR managers are all redundant. Why do we need them?

 

[RazrAsh]

not true.. kiss played rock and roll but they dressed like metal heads...

image is to attract attention to the band.. something to make band's stand out..

 

[sadisticnoob]

no i believe that singapore 'market' is small so it wld 'seem' as if our music suks ..if our bands go overseas(europe or asia) to tour i believe thery will become popular

 

[earsleep]

no i believe that singapore 'market' is small so it wld 'seem' as if our music suks ..if our bands go overseas(europe or asia) to tour i believe thery will become popular

i don think they 'will' if they dont have the whole package, i know of a band made up of locals studyin in australia...and its a success for them to sell like afew hundred cds there

the industry outside is already tough enough and they have many great bands that have the music and the looks but still not lucky enough to break. wad makes u so sure that our local band will surely make it outside???

 

[gsonique]

we all know the answer ...but whose is buying ??!!

people fear the unknown ...so it either gets trashed or ignored !!
same everywhere !! originality that is ...so persevere my frens ...

 

[RazrAsh]

in sg, i'd say the best way to make it big is still by playing chinese songs... there's such a huge difference in the english and chinese market...

 

[sadisticnoob]

english i have to please everybody ..for chinese ya it is easier to attract and play ..imagine puttin yngwie malstern syle in chinese rock

 

[RazrAsh]

why not?? it'd be interesting.. anyone want to form a band with me to play chinese metal??

 

[earsleep]

english i have to please everybody ..for chinese ya it is easier to attract and play ..imagine puttin yngwie malstern syle in chinese rock

yes, its easier to break if u play chinese music and your good enough. but if the japs and play in jap and make the whole world listen to em, then they must doing something right...

as for yngwie, last time i recalled the vocals were cheesy and his famous songs are all instrumentals.

and fyi, chinese rock has already been done in taiwan and china...its just not in the mainstream

 

[RazrAsh]

chinese power metal!!! mayb a possible new genre...

 

[DoubleDecker]

I am waiting for someone to come here and say ... "hey, having no image is also an image wat..."

ROFLMAO!

 

[sadisticnoob]

i mean theres no death metal chinese style imagine all the boybands start screaming ...all the fans will like jus die on the spot ..they play pop cuz its easy to appeal to the masses ...i havent see any chinese band scream out or 2 shredding