Singapore band no image?

As said, it is the ENTERTAINMENT industry.

But I think an image, helps capture an audience in an early stage.

like Donald trump always says "First impressions are always important"
 
"First impressions are always important"

I am sure you don't just hear it from that guy.

Anyway jus do your own thing, if you're good, people will approach you. no need the circus and clown get up lah.
 
very simple..

japanese play japanese music = thumbs up!
chinese play chinese music = thumbs up!
chinese play english music = whose buying?

ever seen a hugely popular english band made up of asians?
it's actually very logical.
 
ever seen africans playing english jazz, blues, rnb, hiphop?
ever seen french caucasians rapping?
ever seen icelandic folk sing in english?

your 'logical' argument is probably one of the most myopic i've seen on this forum.
 
haha.. yeah.
well... it may sound ridiculous but that's the fact for the asian market. at least for the moment. chinese songs is more marketable in the region.
 
unless of course you guys as a market make the demand and support the artistes.

anyway i have this to ask, of everybody here who say image doesn't matter- what's your favourite band, and do they have image?
 
litford said:
ever seen africans playing english jazz, blues, rnb, hiphop?
ever seen french caucasians rapping?
ever seen icelandic folk sing in english?

your 'logical' argument is probably one of the most myopic i've seen on this forum.

haha yeah man... me and my pal are both chinese but we both play country, folk and blues and gospel.

It's our passion, and I think we don't even bother whether people see it as a 'logical' thing or not.

We just do it because we love that kind of music.
 
soft said:
i think we must have good music first.

once the music is popular, the band/musician become idol. then anything they do or wear become THE fashion.

I think we must first let the bands know whether they suck or not instead of praising everyone for the sake of praising
 
Crawldaddy


to play as a hobby and for fun, it's pretty ok but if you really want something out of this you must approach this differently. don't expect consumers to be tolerant just because you're a local band. making it is more than just for the love of music. this is not the 60s anymore.

will you pay decent money to watch a angmoh perform chinese opera? yeah sure, it's a kind of novelty and maybe generate some hype for a while but it's just going to be a side dish. will you or even the chinese community take him seriously? do you think he will ever make it big in china? even though now they're pro-angmoh over there. maybe... but most probably not.

to put in context... will people in the US pay much attention to a local angmoh performing chinese opera when they have easy access to authentic beijing opera by chinese? will they take him seriously?

like wise for singapore when we have access to all kinds of music. the band must not only be decent, you have to be darn good to be able to capture some attention. there are many unsign bands in US or UK, more than you can imagine that are equally talented yet still unable to get there music out.

it's really much more than for the love of music. if you're doing it for fun and as a hobby, fine. but if you aspire for something more. ask yourself. what you have to offer? are you something new or just another clone? not just amongst local bands but also the rest of the world.

welcome to the real world...

just my opinion you don't have to agree with me.. :D

i like electrico though...
cheers!
 
my point is..

if you're a chinese and want your music heard... be it blues, rock, folk, metal. sing it in your native tongue cos there's more than enough competent english bands out there. why would people give a shit if it's just another manifest of an exisiting english band with no image?
 
KuroKupo said:
What is something new? Whats a clone?
I believe its so diverse nowadays, you could say anything.

a clone? is when a band write, sing and dress like an existing band. sure you can have your influences and idols. make it a cover band or tribute band and be happy with it. don't expect people to take you seriously. on the other hand, you can't blame the media for comparison since its so similar. at the end of the day, why would they choose your music over the original? it's so dynamic nowadays. geez! how many ppl on this board gives metallica shit. they're considered a rock icon but they still get shit from the media and even their own fans. so just because it's a local band we should not be as critical and should cut them some slack?

i'm sorry for the ruthless ranting cos previously i've attended many local gigs with an open mind only to walk away thinking what a waste of time.
 
dezng said:
my point is..

if you're a chinese and want your music heard... be it blues, rock, folk, metal. sing it in your native tongue cos there's more than enough competent english bands out there. why would people give a shit if it's just another manifest of an exisiting english band with no image?

What he also meant is, chinese speaks bad english :D... There are bands in Finland, Sweden, Poland... But do most of them sing in their native language? No. English is the market currently... You need to widen your music taste and figure out that... Why can't a chinese sing in English? "cos there's more than enough competent english bands out there."
By the way, i'm chinese....
 
dezng said:
my point is..

if you're a chinese and want your music heard... be it blues, rock, folk, metal. sing it in your native tongue cos there's more than enough competent english bands out there. why would people give a shit if it's just another manifest of an exisiting english band with no image?

i just disagree with your concept of 'native tongue'.

today is a globalised world where so many different people speak so many different languages. and maybe i wanna sing in english because i was brought up speaking english? maybe its more natural to me? what about people born overseas who only speak in the language they know?

besides, if so much of chinese music can borrow from western styles (ballads, hip hop, RnB) .. what is a language to sing in?

i can see your point that you wanna appeal to a particular 'market' but that's about it.. what if i wanna decide that my market should be the english one?
 
Hmm.

dezng, I understand your point and I have to admit me and my pal regarding our music's limitations in terms of marketability in asia, or even in Singapore for that matter.

I'm pretty much aware of today's trends and tastes, thanks :wink:

but I would not choose to follow those trends or tastes just for the sake of following them and making a quick buck along the way.

If, as a player and a musician I do not stick to my own principles (much like how metalheads vehemously defend their genre) how can I expect listeners to respect my music?
 
People use thier time and some even pay to watch the band play but the band don't have the decency to dress up even a little,they look like they just come back from wet market .
 
kudos to everyone who replied! :D

im sorry if i did offend anyone, it's not my intention.
im not against local bands and im not directing these issues at anyone here. its just how i see the real world.

to me, music is meant to move and be appreciated. it requires two parts to a equation, a two way communication between the song and the audience. if there's no recieving end as in the audience in this case. it's only a one-sided affair. if you're in it cos you enjoy doing it without concerning the recipient. it's kinda like... erm. .

pardon me...

alternatively by recognising the situation in favour. do whatever it takes to bridge a audience channel and get your music out. it's worth it even if there's need to perfect a new language.

it's not about money, trends or the international market im talking about. i guess none of the local bands need to worry about them right now. first and foremost, it's really about getting your music heard. isn't that the most important thing?

cheers!
 
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