Shredcow's Upcoming Ballady Ballad

[ShredCow]

Hey Daniel,

The tone is captivating as usual. A bit too fat for my liking though and it somehow muddles up the fast passages, but stick to it if it floats your boat!

Not sure though if it can be classified under a ballad, and if what we heard is from 0:00 itself - it sounds like the bridging part of an entire song. Think we need to hear the entire composition to get the full picture of what you're trying to achieve.

Otherwise, it's good technically, and the diminished progressions and harmony add a bit to that unconventional blend to the works.

Thanks for dropping by KillingHall.

You're right on the tone. Especially the beginning, IMO, as I mentioned in some earlier post... mud is prominent in the beginning part esp.

Bridge.. hmmm.. yeah... yeah... that sounds good! I am at work now, so all I can do is conceptualise it under a flouresent light. But the inputs so far are great...

 

[Satrionic]

yo shred cow, just heard yr ballad.. i must say i like the guitar tone on the starting but sounda kinda muddy afterwards IMHO... but seriously, to me it lacked direction.. but overall i must say well done.. but one last thing.. thats not a ballad leh... i think most would agree.. just my 2cents worth..

 

[ShredCow]

.. but one last thing.. thats not a ballad leh... i think most would agree.. just my 2cents worth..

:lol: Yes.

Ballad has to have no chugging, no double pedals.

But Iced Earth did it!

 

[Scream_ed]

If we start saying ballads cannot this and that, we are killing originality... Just do your thing, man

 

[ShredCow]

If we start saying ballads cannot this and that, we are killing originality... Just do your thing, man

You could say that....
I had this "blues" piece. It was in a typical blues progression. I used the blues/pentatonic scale only.

I had thrash metal double pedals along with blazing, chugging riffs.

 

[bluepowder]

very nice stuff....

style is open to interpretation ofcourse...have never been bogged down by genres :lol:

the tone...fantastic as usual....i have and always will love mids... :lol:

the mix wasnt all that gr8....im sure its been mentioned earlier...

nice to see a lot of criticism .... wish it was present in all the threads :wink:

 

[RoRK]

I thought you went MIA. So how is the collaboration song coming together? You want fusion-type ballad? Got new one, very nice 8) , actually this was the original one that I was thinking of passing on to you - but ended up with the one you now have. But I've added a couple of new parts.

And I can't download the song from youtube. I'll try again later. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't - strange tube.

Don't know if you've listened to David Gilmour's stuff - great for slow ballads. ANd a little BB King wouldn't hurt - just to get into the bluesy vibes. Jeff Beck, some of his stuff are mind-blowing - worth a listen once BB and David are covered. Then you're on your own to implement the vibes into your work. To take things a little further on the vibes/feel thingy, check out Eric Johnson. Nice to hear how he introduces originality into a lot of standards.

Cheers
RoRK

 

[ShredCow]

very nice stuff....

style is open to interpretation ofcourse...have never been bogged down by genres :lol:

the tone...fantastic as usual....i have and always will love mids... :lol:

the mix wasnt all that gr8....im sure its been mentioned earlier...

nice to see a lot of criticism .... wish it was present in all the threads :wink:

Why so many :lol:s dude?

haha... yes, good to see criticism man... but ... i now feel small and tiny! :lol:
So much to improve so little time!

 

[ShredCow]

I thought you went MIA. So how is the collaboration song coming together? You want fusion-type ballad? Got new one, very nice 8) , actually this was the original one that I was thinking of passing on to you - but ended up with the one you now have. But I've added a couple of new parts.

Hehehe... next time! I'm working on the current one now... its tough. Very sparse kind of backing. Its not my type if you know what I mean... coming from having 6, 8, 10 gtrs layering kind of composition style...

Don't know if you've listened to David Gilmour's stuff - great for slow ballads. ANd a little BB King wouldn't hurt - just to get into the bluesy vibes. Jeff Beck, some of his stuff are mind-blowing - worth a listen once BB and David are covered. Then you're on your own to implement the vibes into your work. To take things a little further on the vibes/feel thingy, check out Eric Johnson. Nice to hear how he introduces originality into a lot of standards.

I dunno man... i listen to very little music actually...
Perhaps i just need inspiration!

 

[gsonique]

just be ur self Moo ... DO NOT CONFORM !! Critics should on the composition NOT style of playing conforming to somekinda shred bible!!

When Zakk Wllde auditioned for Ozzy...he stood out !! Being himself!!

"Zakk Wylde's guitar-playing style is usually characterized by his use of pinch harmonics and wide vibrato. His guitar soloing technique is usually characterized by his use of the minor pentatonic scale, playing rapid box-pattern licks using strict alternate-picking, creating a very distinctive, choppy attack, compared to the more fluid playing styles of other rock guitarists. Another notable feature of Zakk's playing is his liberal use of "chicken pickin' ", a technique which is usually associated with country music, and which is (comparatively) rarely seen in heavy metal; a technique he has picked up from watching Albert Lee, one of his influences." WIKI

You play ...they listen ...with their mouth shut !!

Why do you think i don't bother posting clips !!

 

[ShredCow]

No goose, I'm not going to conform but I have picked up some ideas... use of acoustic guitars, a different ending? Using whats posted as a bridge, using more articulate tone, watching my dynamics, etc etc...

I think you should post a little of what you do here... I think it would be great. At least get some honest comments from the lay musician. I once took advice from a friend, who didn't play any instruments at all. And it was good advice! Not to conform, but to open one's eyes...

Aiyah, but you know that already no?

Wonder what would I be described as... hopefully not as "other rock guitarists" .... which should be the case now.

 

[Scream_ed]

Well, a chow that shreds....how about Minced Beef? Hahaha

 

[ShredCow]

Well, a chow that shreds....how about Minced Beef? Hahaha

Clam Chowder?

 

[amptones]

nice stuff...!..definately a refreshing change of music!

 

[RoRK]

6-8 layers of guitars - then how to do live? I too would love to do something more layered but my timing sucks and I would only do it once out of maybe 6-12 songs.

Having said that, the reason I sent the stuff over to you was for you to work on it as best you want to - not how I sent it to you or what I want. So do what you want with it - keeping in mind the few arrangement thingies I mentioned. Other than that - GO FOR IT!!!!!

And I just listened to this new one of yours. It'll be a great solo - for a ballad. Think most who posted here hear it as a complete song. But if I know your music, it's just the solo part(s) that you have put together.

I like it.

With the exception - there always has to be an exception. lol. Two to three modes would be ok. Too many and the song loses its character. I am talking about the chromatic stuff et al. Actually the chromatic run was very nice. But some parts seemed a little too contrived. And if not, it took away the feel of the song. UNless you want to go the Miles Davis route of course.

And I don't listen to music that much too. But I did listen to a lot of stuff when I was learning - eons ago. Even violin and sax stuff were great. Even boring Kenny G stuff was great to try to emulate on the guitar because the scales were great Kenny may be corny but he does have some feel.

You are really a good guitarist. I wished I could play a lot like you and a little like me. :lol:

 

[Phanto]

good stuff, remember to only take the criticism from people who can offer good criticism. 50% are just spineless comments.

 

[ShredCow]

6-8 layers of guitars - then how to do live? I too would love to do something more layered but my timing sucks and I would only do it once out of maybe 6-12 songs.

Can lah. Haha... get a few more guitarists loh!

Having said that, the reason I sent the stuff over to you was for you to work on it as best you want to - not how I sent it to you or what I want. So do what you want with it - keeping in mind the few arrangement thingies I mentioned. Other than that - GO FOR IT!!!!!

Oh yeah man... I gotta just get the time to sit down and start figuring things out... But i'll keep you posted.

With the exception - there always has to be an exception. lol. Two to three modes would be ok. Too many and the song loses its character. I am talking about the chromatic stuff et al. Actually the chromatic run was very nice. But some parts seemed a little too contrived. And if not, it took away the feel of the song. UNless you want to go the Miles Davis route of course.

Oh, the ending was really... well, I got to stick true to my nick no? Yeah? :lol:

I need to work out some more interesting runs. Boring I am.

 

[ShredCow]

good stuff, remember to only take the criticism from people who can offer good criticism. 50% are just spineless comments.

Hmmm... I would like to hear your thoughts on the piece?

 

[MichaelAngelo]

hi i think its not a ballad, cant figure out which part of it has the typical ballad sound.

anyway, please dont be offended, but i thought that the tone(as u mentioned earlier) wasnt very clear, IMHO, for a more ballad-ey feel, perhaps more reverb? and the playing itself was pretty fine, not as godly as your previous OMs which i've heard, though the shreddys are superb, the notes chosen, are as usual, the very out of the box stuff(in a good way) which i like.

lastly, its okay if u disagree with me totally, because u know how noob i am too. haha...that was just my opinion and "criticism" which im of course not worthy of giving!

 

[ShredCow]

lastly, its okay if u disagree with me totally, because u know how noob i am too. haha...that was just my opinion and "criticism" which im of course not worthy of giving!

Dude, its okay. Just give your honest feedback. Only people not "worthy" of giving feedback are those who do not give sincere feedback.

You don't need to be a Chef to know if its bad food.