Realistic Les Paul Guitar comes to keyboard

[Cheez]

OK guitarists, here's something that you may not like much - a keyboard slowly taking over the role of a guitarist.

Here is a new sample library in native Gigastudio format that captured almost everything they could think of in a Les Paul (60GB of samples). Listen to the demos and let's hear your comments...

http://www.prominy.com/les.htm

 

[DoubleBlade]

remember wad u mentioned this afternoon.....nothing beats the real feel of an instrument so much so that no sample can match up to it... :lol:

 

[jeremyrozario]

hell yes this pisses me off, its just like having some1 clone you, that would make your purpose in life meaningless as there is no more a need for you...


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well the samples dun sound real enuff to me!!!

 

[Cheez]

remember wad u mentioned this afternoon.....nothing beats the real feel of an instrument so much so that no sample can match up to it... :lol:

Correct! Cannot be exactly the same. But coming closer yah? I'm always curious how close the gap will go. But the gap will always be there.

 

[Cheez]

well the samples dun sound real enuff to me!!!

Samples cannot replace the real thing. So don't worry - guitarists are still needed! However, the bad news is - the gap is getting closer. The differences between the real thing and the samples are usually only picked up by people who play the instruments themselves (who are always more critical) - not the general public. For me, being a trumpet player, I find most trumpet samples are not real enough. That's because I tend to me more critical when it comes to trumpet. But for somebody else, they can't tell much difference. Some of my friends actually asked me if I used real strings in my compositions. Of course I don't - but they can't tell. However, I know that it is not real because no matter how hard I try to sequence, it will always sound like samples to me. My ears are tuned that way.

By the way, the guy who did the music demos for the Les Paul thought his sequencing was "nothing special" (direct quote from him). I take it he didn't try too hard to make it sound ultra-realistic. That means that it could sound even better! Scary!

 

[jeremyrozario]

just makes things simpler for keyboardists who are too lazy to learn how to play guitar(no offence to those who are too lazy), i tink i oso wanna be lazy oso and get a roland ready guitar next year, den i can play piano on the guitar

 

[Cheez]

just makes things simpler for keyboardists who are too lazy to learn how to play guitar(no offence to those who are too lazy), i tink i oso wanna be lazy oso and get a roland ready guitar next year, den i can play piano on the guitar

Nothing to do with laziness. It is impossible to master every instrument. Just like a conductor - he doesn't play every single instrument in the orchestra (not possible). He just need to know the instruments. Same as a keyboardist. He doesn't need to know how to play the violin, the flute, the clarinet, the bass, the guitar, the drums, the trumpets, the trombones, the horns, the saxophones, the harp etc etc (not possible). But he does need to do his homework to know how these instruments are played. Then he can create realistic sounding music.

 

[mikemann]

Don't worry lah.....

Why would a keyboardist want to take over the role of a guitarist, when he already got so much things to do on his hand.

Also people like to see a guitar player always on the stage. Very shoik man.

The keyboardist already can take over totally the role of the drummer, but still today, we got increasing interest in drums too.

 

[Cheez]

Perhaps the biggest negative reaction from various instrumentalists since the drastic growth and improvement of samples in the past few years is that they do get replaced. Not in the live band setting where image is important, but in recordings. In the past, when we need a guitarist or drummer in our recordings, we hire them. Same for other instruments. But nowadays, we are slowly replacing these with samples. Instrumentalists are complaining (and sometimes even angry) that they are being replaced in these areas. Cheaper to get one person to do it than to get a band.

I believe that samples can never replace the real thing - but I'm a purist. I want the most realistic sound I can get. As I said, the general public can't tell the difference.

I remember when the bass samples from Scarbee first came out, it really got the bass players angry. They can see that they are slowly being "replaced" by these ultra-realistic samples. Here are the demos for these basses - judge for yourselves and see!!!

http://www.scarbee.com/demos/jsf_demos.php

I think they have the right to be angry!

 

[teraslasch]

i strongly feel that these samples are good tools for any composers to have a good idea their music will sound like b4 anyone plays it live? dont u agree?

 

[bongman]

guitar still main front instr.

guitar still main front instr. for performance,
guitarist always seen as a live performing object,
whereas keyboardist hide behind their walls of racks.

 

[seekz]

well the demos definitely sound very convincing man.
all the slides and pick attack and especially the bends on the LPC demo.

 

[NERD]

It's too clean...it's too perfect...human guitarist can't do that....Technology can never replace human touch!!

 

[seekz]

i agree, but when you listen off a CD any kinda recording the artist would record and re-record until the take is perfect. so how differrent is that from sampling a perfect take.

well like many of those before had said already. Its not a a live thing.
i just feel its a great tool, and very intricately crafted in my opinion.

they sampled double bends, unision bends, legato slides, pick scratching.
I'm just impressed with the details.

 

[The-Warlord]

:evil: Sound awful!

 

[mulyadi]

it doesn't sound like a les paul..but rather a cheap les paul copy with bad pickups. =X

don't really like the sound..too 'bright' and...i dunno...not enough bass and mids.

but...technology...sigh.

 

[Cheez]

Bass, mids and brightness preferences etc can be EQ'ed easily.

 

[Vaiyen]

i'm impressed. it captures all the nuances of guitar-playing convincingly. now i would like to hear an ESP-Mesa Boogie emulator.

 

[Ambidextrous]

I'm impressed too. Anyone who has tried to sequence guitar-playing using midi will know that the samples used are indeed very good. Not the best guitar tone, we all know, but definitely good enough for midi sequencing. Any idea whether did he use a midi guitar or a keyboard for the control?

 

[Cheez]

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