Realistic Les Paul Guitar comes to keyboard

[Cheez]

Hi people - 1 year since this thread was posted. Now the LPC guitar is updated and here's a good live demo on what it does.

So guitar shredders - try to beat THIS!!!!

http://www.prominy-ss.com/LPC/LPC_super_p_multi.wmv

 

[teraslasch]

woah.. lol..

 

[anep]

haha.. that was like, 8O
style ar.
i got stuck to the song.
whats the title?
or was it made for the prominy keyboard?

 

[Cheez]

Anep, LPC is not a keyboard. The keyboard that guy used is only for midi control. LPC is a plug-in guitar sample that uses Kontakt. That's why you can see the guy using his left hand in key-switches and mod wheel while the right hand plays the notes.

 

[anep]

ahh.
so the product is just the software lah izzit?
icic. thnx cheez. i didnt know that.

 

[skink83]

Im not really bothered whether it sounds like a LP or not, its a convincing guitar tone and I bet most people blind folded won't be able to tell if its software. Although I'm not really surprised, I've seen similar stuff done by the Triton Extreme when it just came out.

Great stuff, good alternative for keyboardists who can't play guitar.

 

[Cheez]

There's no way any hardware can compare with this. Not Triton Extreme, not MOTIF ES, not Fantom.

This is a 60+GB library. The best keyboards now can only take about 1GB, most of them less.

It has tons of articulations and 150,000 samples. Name an articulation (all chords, hammer-ons and pull-offs, mute, gliss, slides, harmonics, scrape/finger-release/bridge mute/brush/fret/pick stop/crunch brush noises, octaves, 4th and 5th dyad chords, tremolo, trill, stationary/unison/double bends, staccato, sustain, vibrato etc), they will have it!

 

[vahsu]

Hi All,

Slightly off topic...but just wanted to express my views...on some of the previos discussions...btw every body is music lover here...so no offence meant to ne body

few guitarists friends were not so happy that keyboard is becoming more powerful (in the sense getting more REALISTIC sounds)....Yes I agree to that...I composed one song and sent to my frnds...evry body praised the quality ( whether they liked the conposition is a diff story) and every body thinks that it was done using many instrumentalists...only a keyboard player,soundf engineer and singer were involved in thr song..(ofcrs me the composer) .....All brass, trumpets, strings used were thru samples...Definitely professional players are loosing money with this sampleing technology...but again...I have no choice other than going for cheaper route hahha....whether u use real or virtual, for average audience no big differnce

I donot remember where...but some where I read..."DON'T FALL IN LOVE WITH A MUSICAL INSTRUMENT, IT IS JUST AN INSTRUMENT, FALL IN LOVE WITH MUSIC"

So my guitarist friends...no worries as long as the sound produced by the sample are great...

Also, this is my personal opinion...no offence meant...many ppl whom I have seen who like Guitar...not just like it because of its sound...It has more showman ship...if that is this case a person is going away from music...

There are many many instruments ( i mean their sounds) for u to fall in love with......

( ofcourse we can fall in love with many but have to marry only one...so instrumentalists may not be ready to change their instrument just because other instrument sound too is good haha)

 

[Cloudsky]

I guess I better pick up keyboard soon.

 

[Cheez]

Yes, vahsu hit the point! I think we did discuss this in another thread. Realistic samples are really meant for us composers/arrangers. But on stage, the whole thing changes. Nobody wants to see 6 keyboardists standing there, one playing sampled drums, one bass, one guitar, one "real keyboard" etc.

Furthermore, no matter how realistic samples are, it will never be the same as the real instrument. There are more to realism than just articulations. The realism comes most during symphonic arrangements when we can mask and hide the slight unrealism by using thick orchestration and sequencing techniques. The more instruments are involved, the more realism we can create. And of course, no one can sample saxophone to compare with the real thing - there are just too many nuances in the real instrument itself. Same for the acoustic guitar - we can get it pretty real. But when played side by side with the real thing, one can tell immediately. Of course when mixed with many instruments, it will be difficult for the un-trained ear.

 

[Starlancer120]

8O it sounds so real... But it will nvr replace a guitar in a Band. NEVER!!!!!!. But it really sound realistic...This could really be useful....

 

[markedymark]

so if you wana play satriani, you needa put wah under your table? :lol: and how do you do vibrtos and bends like the real deal man. screw this.

 

[soft]

markedymark, do you play the keyboard? i think there are many knobs, slider, bender, after-touch and ribbon controller which enables one to do all the expressions. if one chooses to.

 

[piano_ex]

bongman!! ... now we can go and come out from our hiding place ....

pick a midAir and connect it with ax7 .... there u go .... let's go and fight with guitarist!!!! ......... hehehehe

.. for awhile ..... , then let's hide again behind our stack of keys and rack =P

 

[Cheez]

Oh markedymark, it does more than just vibratos and bends. It also does vibrato at different speeds, down/up/alternate pickings , slides up and down (at different speeds and from 1 to 12 frets each sampled individually), hammer-ons and pull-offs, sustains, staccatos, mute picking (tight, medium and loose, up/down/alternate pickings), trills at different speeds, harmonics (+/- vibrato), bending at different intervals and different speeds, various noises from the bridge/harmonic brush notes/release noise/scrape/stop noises, unison bend strings in various combinations, double bend, various chords at different strum speeds, and many more (too many to list) - and all these (each articulation) actually recorded on DIFFERENT STRINGS! Thats 150,000 samples.

And as soft said, with controllers, it's as easy as ABC. I'm sure you can pick up these articulations from the demos.

But one caveat - the many articulations also means it is quite different to be played live. To have the most realistic effect, one will have to sequence it. But once sequenced, and in a mix, it can replace LP players in a recording. But it is not going to replace a live player. So guitarists, don't worry too much...

Sorry pianoex, don't think you can play it live on an AX7...yet. Technology is changing and things will change in the next few years. Sample developers are now trying hard to make samples playable live, not just sequenced. It's already happening with violins and cellos. It's only a matter of time...

 

[Cheez]

Oh sorry, I need to correct myself. It is NOT impossible to play live - as you can see from their video demo. It's just that there will be limitations on the number of articulations you can have. But it can be programmed extensively to include MANY articulations - sufficient for live performances.

Sorry guitarists...

And yeah, pianoex, take our your ax7!

 

[bboy2388]

wow. so i guess now funk bands will now have 4 keyboardists. One for the pads, one for the talk box guy, one for the guitar replacement, and one for the synth.

 

[teraslasch]

best is still a guitarist at ur disposal anytime :lol: