Pod XT vs Sansamp and blindfold tests between analog n digi

[ShredCow]

if hendrix is still alive today, he might prolly be into exploring the side of advanced music technology which enable him to break out of the music he's been making in the 70s, which until today, so many still trying to emulate and go after

but since he is not with us anymore, lets drink more bandung and get on with playing.

pardon me :lol:

Yeap. Guitarists are a backward bunch of people. NOS is a key word. :wink:

Thats prob why a few guitarists go the way of modulation and stuff... which isn't exactly "out there" to me.. but well, its cool I guess.

Hope to see more different players though.

 

[penguin]

well for me i compared my podxt bean and my rocktron preamp...
i prefer the podxt still...

the difference for me is the cabs..how you connect the modellers make a real difference.You tend to get diff tone connectiong via fx loop or keyboard amp. Have not tried the atomic amp so cant comment on that.As for analog it does not really matters...

i choose the modeller coz its cheaper than a tube amp,versatile and dont have to think much abt maintenance and portability..

btw there also some dude that did the cab sim testing between the sm57 and a real "mic in sm57"..well thats a diff story man...

long debate .but one thing for sure ..u got to tweak to get a good tone

 

[PatheinRaindropMoe]

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Thats prob why a few guitarists go the way of modulation and stuff... which isn't exactly "out there" to me.. but well, its cool I guess.

Hope to see more different players though.

few guitarist going modulation, no really lah. Imho, as much as a lot wanting to go faster and more technical, there are equal number going the other way of playing. Sometime it might be indulgence, but its another form of expression, even silence like 4'33 from john cage

as for guitarist, johnny greenwood, that dude from mars volta, lee ronaldo from sonic youth, robert fripp etc are some of those more popular one that really uses the modulation to explore the other side of playing guitar. And perhaps a lot more of those from the noise/drone/ambient side of musicians. Sometime its rather interesting to see how they play simple things, but with technology, give rise to another form of their music.

Imho, come, drink some bandung

 

[ShredCow]

few guitarist going modulation, no really lah. Imho, as much as a lot wanting to go faster and more technical, there are equal number going the other way of playing. Sometime it might be indulgence, but its another form of expression, even silence like 4'33 from john cage

Its a huge struggle to not be the norm... most just imitate... which doesn't add anything into the mix, except their own form of self expression...

 

[PatheinRaindropMoe]

not really struggle lah, sometime it just happen naturally i find. As for imitation, i guess all of us to certain extend do that. Afterall, most of new things nowadays are improvement over the oldies

hehehe, we must go back on track. Over here not like some dodgy place can go from gear to fellatio and to mars :lol:

ok, pod xt good, sansamp good, forum, bad! :lol:

 

[audio]

im an example of a good guitarist coz i use both
im the one who is particular about tone...be it digital or analog..
i will always make it sounds nice for recording and for the audience as well.

based on my experience, the audience just wanna enjoy your music.
u play good and produce good sound, the audience will \m/

pls stop digital v analog thing and listen to muse
dont let ppl influence u. sometimes, other ppl's advice can lead u down the drain. try the gears u have in mind. ITS YOUR CHOICE. create your own identity.

 

[ShredCow]

dont let ppl influence u. sometimes, other ppl's advice can lead u down the drain. try the gears u have in mind. ITS YOUR CHOICE. create your own identity.

Other people's opinions can open your mind to new things you never thought of before. It can be just as good as it can be mis-leading.

 

[theblueark]

It's interesting that when people here are going:

"See, an orange is juicy and soft, it's got a layer of skin which you have to peel off for the goodness inside. If you leave the skin to dry in the sun you can have a tasty treat too."

"An apple is crunchy and doctors say it's good for health. It's less sweet tasting and has a nice zesty flavour when made into juice. Some people eat it with the skin, some people like to peel it off."

There are others who come in and go:

"People! Please stop the orange vs apple thing! Both are good, I eat both. Don't let others influence your choice of what to eat."

I haven't seen a single post on this thread saying tubes are better than digital. We're just discussing the differences. Why come into threads like this acting like we're fighting over which is better.

 

[gsonique]

One mans poison is onother mans food 8O
When you want someones oppinion remember to be careful whose advice you buy and be patient with those who supply.

 

[ShredCow]

I got a Sansamp Original, the thing that started the Sansamp revolution... and a TRI OD... so if there's going to be an a/b, why not?

 

[edder]

I haven't seen a single post on this thread saying tubes are better than digital. We're just discussing the differences. Why come into threads like this acting like we're fighting over which is better.

ok let me start. TUBE SUCKS. SILICON RULES.

Who needs tubes when you have 101 11 010 110 1110 010 100 101.... :twisted:

 

[Guest]

Yeah it's all digital information baby!

In the future, we'll all be playing guitar in our heads. Wired to our brains. No hands! Then you'll be able to get that tone you've been hearing in your head all this time.

 

[suspend_thought]

Hey some of the more established guitarists around use digital effects more than analog effects; the difference is that their stuff, like digital delays, are 20 button knob/dial rackmounts from custom shops, ours are 4 knob stompboxes from BOSS.

 

[gsonique]

Hey some of the more established guitarists around use digital effects more than analog effects; the difference is that their stuff, like digital delays, are 20 button knob/dial rackmounts from custom shops, ours are 4 knob stompboxes from BOSS.

True ..the reason being they don't wanna lose or damage those rare gems.
Btw whats wrong with 4 knob stompboxes ... :smt075
anyhow ...there are heaps analog rackmounts as well.
Digital good lah ...for those club musicians ...cough ...cough ...easy set up and more time for supper after ...you know.

 

[skink83]

I think as someone pointed out, its just a matter of your requirements. If you're a budding recording musician who doesn't have the resources, I haven't seen a better alternative than a digital solution. In most cases, like say using a PODxt, its arguably cheaper than having the tube amps with miking, easier to setup, and probably has better sound quality since it goes straight to the soundcard. (Unless you feel a DS-1 straight to soundcard is good la. )

Using live, if you can help it and have resources like stacks, then analogue by all means. Even digital is great and flexible, esp since you can plug into the PA direct, best for those low budget school events.

Whether digital or not, I guess you'll just make the best in the situation you're in. Im sure most people who have played quite a few gigs would understand the equipment provided from different organisers varies from generous to bare minimal.

 

[snuffleupagus]

I feel like sometimes I get a very inspiring sound coming out of my Marshall Tube amp run thru my ANALOG pedals when Im on stage playing.

Sometimes , due to clever tweaking , i can get the same thru out of lets say my digital ME-50 on stage during other gigs.

I normally tweak both to get the dynamics and nuances I WANT during soundcheck before I gig.

This level of contentment of tone and all that is purely up to the individual and his/her preference.

Some say analogue inspires, some dun.Some says Vice Versa.

For me, On stage, when my amps are miked, and thru a PA blasting away, the difference is too subtle to notice.

Yes the dynamics and nuances are being questioned by you guys here, but then again it really depends on what you are comparing to, as the main statement is too general.

My ME 50 Rat sounds Exactly the same as my Proco Rat.I 've ABEd it before with my friends.Nuances, everything dynamics all similiar.But the rest of the emulations can't really be compared when we be anal about it.

I think that a person who likes analogue will like analogue, and a person who likes Digital (and appreciates the convienience) will like Digital.

Digital Emulations are getting closer and closer to the real thing now, only a matter of time.

No offence

 

[Genoscidal]

haha yea blueark..its kinda sad.. this wasnt meant to be a digital vs analog which is better thread..Anyway... it was meant for opinions of people who actually have used both and compared both.. or are willing to try and compare both side by side taking away e mindset that "digital is better" or "analog is better" and not just shooting off without personally trying and playing thru both before.. i actually wanted to know which actually sounds better based on those who have tried Sansamps(100% analog) amp simulation and Line 6's modelling technology.. haha.. okok how about.. analog sim vs digi sim.. note both simulations! heh.. Count e actual tube amps out cos it obviously beats both hands down.. heh

 

[audio]

dont let ppl influence u. sometimes, other ppl's advice can lead u down the drain. try the gears u have in mind. ITS YOUR CHOICE. create your own identity.

Other people's opinions can open your mind to new things you never thought of before. It can be just as good as it can be mis-leading.

the keyword is sometimes.
not all the time.

another advice..dont just be a player..be an intelligent player

 

[Grain]

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GUITAR - thru - TS9DX - thru - POD XT LIVE - thru - any tube amps thru the SLAVE IN section = an almost warm sound for a digital multi-FX pedal. But of coz, hours of twigging shuld be involve too.

 

[jeremyrozario]

i like my tone as digitalish as possible most of the time, muwahahahahahaha

but sometimes i like it anaglogish......are there even such words?