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actually i kinda disagree with u drummer buah. if lets say a this drummer can't play any rudiments but he can lay down a killer groove, play musically, set up the band for key changes, play dynamically and lead his band. i gurantee you tons of bands will be after him.
rudiments are impt no doubt abt tht but it doesn't make or break a drummer i feel. i feel the way he interprets the time feel and his overall sound wld separate the ah guai's from the real girls baby. hehe
i'm a little curious bradder, why do u think rudiments are impt. i have my own reasons on why they are and wld like to hear urs.
 
blurred said:
actually i kinda disagree with u drummer buah. if lets say a this drummer can't play any rudiments but he can lay down a killer groove, play musically, set up the band for key changes, play dynamically and lead his band. i gurantee you tons of bands will be after him.
rudiments are impt no doubt abt tht but it doesn't make or break a drummer i feel. i feel the way he interprets the time feel and his overall sound wld separate the ah guai's from the real girls baby. hehe
i'm a little curious bradder, why do u think rudiments are impt. i have my own reasons on why they are and wld like to hear urs.

Yo bro, rudiments are important, for every drummers, be it self-taught drummers, learned drummer or know-nuts-about-rudiments drummers cos we are using rudiments in our drumming. Rudiments have singles and doubles, be it triplets, paradiddle, six stroke, double-paradiddle etc, be it 4th 8th 16th 32nd notes, all using singles and doubles, and it goes the same with drumming in a band, all the songs that we're drumming to uses singles and doubles. Those self taught drummers who can hold the groove well are practising rudiments with their bands when they're jamming without knowing it, the most importang thing is practice more and perform more.

Personally for me, it's better to learn and practice rudiments cos it really helps us in drumming and grow.. :D

just my personal opinion :D :D
 
ahpek1 said:
blurred said:
actually i kinda disagree with u drummer buah. if lets say a this drummer can't play any rudiments but he can lay down a killer groove, play musically, set up the band for key changes, play dynamically and lead his band. i gurantee you tons of bands will be after him.
rudiments are impt no doubt abt tht but it doesn't make or break a drummer i feel. i feel the way he interprets the time feel and his overall sound wld separate the ah guai's from the real girls baby. hehe
i'm a little curious bradder, why do u think rudiments are impt. i have my own reasons on why they are and wld like to hear urs.

Yo bro, rudiments are important, for every drummers, be it self-taught drummers, learned drummer or know-nuts-about-rudiments drummers cos we are using rudiments in our drumming. Rudiments have singles and doubles, be it triplets, paradiddle, six stroke, double-paradiddle etc, be it 4th 8th 16th 32nd notes, all using singles and doubles, and it goes the same with drumming in a band, all the songs that we're drumming to uses singles and doubles. Those self taught drummers who can hold the groove well are practising rudiments with their bands when they're jamming without knowing it, the most importang thing is practice more and perform more.

Personally for me, it's better to learn and practice rudiments cos it really helps us in drumming and grow.. :D

just my personal opinion :D :D

That`s very true. agree totally.
I din even realise that till someone who`s quite proficient demo it to me on the set. All the nice groove u hear, and strokes are all formed by rudiments hence it is definately important.
 
haha chill.

we softies are like nagging him to death.4 pAGES!

and yea...i noe the rudiments but nt good in applying them on drumset yet ( as in solo-ing and grooves )...waiting for next SDC gathering to ask...
 
Frummer said:
haha chill.

we softies are like nagging him to death.4 pAGES!

and yea...i noe the rudiments but nt good in applying them on drumset yet ( as in solo-ing and grooves )...waiting for next SDC gathering to ask...

Frummer,

can teach me rudiments?
:D
 
actually blurred is right to a certain extent.

say, u are this like.. misic director and shit. then u see this awesome drummer with awesome groove and timekeeping. then u'll rush off to find him to join u in some.. i dunno.. music thing.. (i'm not good with those terms)

yah ok so u join.. and u become famous and shit. then let's say. berklee music college invites u to join them in their classes and stuff.. then hor wah u think u very good.. hottest drummer in singapore.. Asia's funk master. then off u go to berklee. the first lesson?? SINGLE STROKE ROLL.. then ALAMAK!! u die la.. u become one of the bottom students there cuz u haven't even mastered the basics of drumming..

long boring story rite? actually i'm trying to say that.. yah having the groove is one thing.. learning ur basics is another. with the concept of ur single strokes. double strokes.. paradiddle.. your mind will mature in a way that u'll be more creative in your strokes, and u'll be able to execute faster rolls, or more creative rolls in your drumming.

although i myself think that my story will not ever happen. cuz it's kinda contradicting its own points. cuz.. being a funk drummer. naturally i guess there may come a time where u feel the urge to play fast rolls. and in that sense. you are also practicing ur rudiments. but not religiously everyday do 200bpm single stroke roll non stop for half an hour that kind of things u know?

cheers!!! :smt119

(how come some of the smileys aren't working.. i was gonna put the. smiley holding the beer or something.. )
 
Lombardo said:
Frummer said:
haha chill.

we softies are like nagging him to death.4 pAGES!

and yea...i noe the rudiments but nt good in applying them on drumset yet ( as in solo-ing and grooves )...waiting for next SDC gathering to ask...

Frummer,

can teach me rudiments?
:D

aH!?ask syed la :lol:

dont ask me...im noob. anw...wonder sat got lesson or not...if have we go down earlier and prac all these ah haha
 
A drummer who can lay down a great groove is probably using rudiments without even knowing it. That's the beauty about rudiments; they were there all along... it's just that one day, some guy woke up and decided to compile them into a list.

Many of David Garibaldi's grooves are actually loads of flam triplets and accents that are played with flat flams... and I'm pretty sure he never thought of them as rudiments. 8)
 
woah hehe i knew this one wld ruffle feathers. ok rudiments are everything. u all feel very strongly abt it ah, sorry but i still feel at this stage in ur playing get the groove and time down first then do ur strokes. or go and break up the rudiment into a groove and funk it baby. i went through the stage stage where i practiced alot of rudiments but i was also doing alot of excercises to get my groove down. wat i'm saying is u have to balance it out. okie i will be waiting the massive number of rebunks ahaha
 
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