Need help on selection of pickups
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hullabalooeeks
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Hey neuro, if u want pups for bringing out the chunga in palm muting...
U might wanna reconsider ur choices. Actually on single coils u can also have nice palm muting. I think this boils down to ur effects and distortion.
Alot of stock distortion cuts the bass. Very distinctly actually, say u go test a distortion pedal in sweelee, activate the pedal while palm muting and u can hear the drop or the muffled bass sounds as compared to the clean.
So its not really the pups. Its the other things as well. As i said, get a good pup and get along in life. Dun bother too much... Get the tried and tested 59'/JB la. i really like the JB personally. Nice harmonics and stuff.
The PAF is patent applied for. Its the era when Gibson filed for patents for their humbuckers. around the late 1960s if i'm not wrong. So u are seeing alot of pups from manufacturers which tries to replicate the tones. Like SD 59', DiMarzio PAF range etc... Basically the PAF has a more vintage feel to it rather than those high output humbuckers. Wad u get is a clearer sounding pup.
Btw u have EMGs right?? Why dun u stick with it? Good pups.
Hope this helps.
U might wanna reconsider ur choices. Actually on single coils u can also have nice palm muting. I think this boils down to ur effects and distortion.
Alot of stock distortion cuts the bass. Very distinctly actually, say u go test a distortion pedal in sweelee, activate the pedal while palm muting and u can hear the drop or the muffled bass sounds as compared to the clean.
So its not really the pups. Its the other things as well. As i said, get a good pup and get along in life. Dun bother too much... Get the tried and tested 59'/JB la. i really like the JB personally. Nice harmonics and stuff.
The PAF is patent applied for. Its the era when Gibson filed for patents for their humbuckers. around the late 1960s if i'm not wrong. So u are seeing alot of pups from manufacturers which tries to replicate the tones. Like SD 59', DiMarzio PAF range etc... Basically the PAF has a more vintage feel to it rather than those high output humbuckers. Wad u get is a clearer sounding pup.
Btw u have EMGs right?? Why dun u stick with it? Good pups.
Hope this helps.
subversion
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hullabalooeeks said:
if the PAF mentioned above refers to the Gibson version, then i beg to differ. this humbucker sounds ok with mid-level distortion but muds out when more drive is dialled in. if you embrace all things vintage/ blues crunch, then the PAF might be it.
the Duncan '59 is a popular pickup, no doubt, but it may not be the one for you. certainly not for me... i prefer the Alnico II for a more chunky response while simultaneously offering a vintage vibe with the volume backed off.
wangdexian
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neuro182 said:
I suspect the 59's and Invader's difference in volume might be too big to even be adjusted by lowering the pup's height.
Well, I'm SURE an EMG 81 can go into chugga chugga teritory and have some nice cleans as well.
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Re: Mid?
Hrm... middle pickup is a bit tricky, 'cos u need to find one with output that's similar to your 2 humbuckers unless you don't mild the slight volume dropout when you switch to the single coil or run your mid single coil with the hums. Will take a bit of research. Plus the middle single coil will have to be able to be reverse wound (or something lke that, not sure about terminology) so that position 2 and 4 with a coil from the humbuckers will make it hum cancelling.
If you're not picky about having a true single coil sound, you can get those single coil sized mini humbuckers and put it on a 5-way switch, but the switch might have to be one of those complex megaswitches.
Not worth spending the money on the mid unless you're sure you'd be wanting to use it or you don't want to end up with a empty pickup slot in your guitar. I'm sure your old middle pickup will be fine if it came stock with your other humbuckers you're replacing.
neuro182 said:
Hrm... middle pickup is a bit tricky, 'cos u need to find one with output that's similar to your 2 humbuckers unless you don't mild the slight volume dropout when you switch to the single coil or run your mid single coil with the hums. Will take a bit of research. Plus the middle single coil will have to be able to be reverse wound (or something lke that, not sure about terminology) so that position 2 and 4 with a coil from the humbuckers will make it hum cancelling.
If you're not picky about having a true single coil sound, you can get those single coil sized mini humbuckers and put it on a 5-way switch, but the switch might have to be one of those complex megaswitches.
Not worth spending the money on the mid unless you're sure you'd be wanting to use it or you don't want to end up with a empty pickup slot in your guitar. I'm sure your old middle pickup will be fine if it came stock with your other humbuckers you're replacing.
thor666
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hmm.. hehe how about u screw the middle pickup? eric johnson does that.
basically leave ur stock middle PU there and wire the 3rd position to select the neck & the bridge pickups. then ur 2nd & 4th positions will be completely silent & u can use that to quickly kill off the sound.
if u dun want that u can also wire 2,3,4 positions to select the neck & bridge pickups.
& that might save u some money while u consider ur middle PU.
basically leave ur stock middle PU there and wire the 3rd position to select the neck & the bridge pickups. then ur 2nd & 4th positions will be completely silent & u can use that to quickly kill off the sound.
if u dun want that u can also wire 2,3,4 positions to select the neck & bridge pickups.
& that might save u some money while u consider ur middle PU.
You can get a low out middle pup... so that you can get nice cleans when you use positions 2, 3 and 4. If you have hot neck and bridge pups, a lower output middle pup will help to clean out the tone.
Yes, you will have to put that lower output pup closer to the strings but man,
Maybe a Dimarzio Blue Velvet that is reverse wound.
On the other hand, you can get a high output humbucking single coil like the Dimarzio Crusier or Tonezone... something totally different in tone from the rest of your normal neck and bridge pups. I would say Tonezone for its very wah-ish tone due to the ridiculous amount of mid range it has. Would sound different from your PAFs I believe... Then you can install toggle switches and what not... since you got 3 hums... endless combinations!!!
Yes, you will have to put that lower output pup closer to the strings but man,
Maybe a Dimarzio Blue Velvet that is reverse wound.
On the other hand, you can get a high output humbucking single coil like the Dimarzio Crusier or Tonezone... something totally different in tone from the rest of your normal neck and bridge pups. I would say Tonezone for its very wah-ish tone due to the ridiculous amount of mid range it has. Would sound different from your PAFs I believe... Then you can install toggle switches and what not... since you got 3 hums... endless combinations!!!
