Materials covered in Soft Drummer Meet-Up
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Hi, alex here...did some simple Steve Gadd stuff that day.
Wanted to paste towgays here but thot might be easier to just show the sequence of bass drum, hi-hat, snare, floor tom:
BD-HH-SD-BD-HH-SD-HH-BD-BD---FT
Glad that i learnt some cool stuff from all you experienced/young drummers. Well, i guess nobody can ever stop learning the art of drumming - there're so many things to master! Which is one of the reasons why drumming is fun!
p.s. i want to learn Angry Samba
Wanted to paste towgays here but thot might be easier to just show the sequence of bass drum, hi-hat, snare, floor tom:
BD-HH-SD-BD-HH-SD-HH-BD-BD---FT
Glad that i learnt some cool stuff from all you experienced/young drummers. Well, i guess nobody can ever stop learning the art of drumming - there're so many things to master! Which is one of the reasons why drumming is fun!
p.s. i want to learn Angry Samba
plainsman
New member
thanks all for contributing!!!!!!! well i guess we've run dry for now..... (until the next meetup, that is......)
here's mine stuff covered in the last meetup:
- awareness of tone and pitch
(with reference to an incredibly cheesy morning military bugle wake up-call >.< )
- shapes in drumming
- splitting up rudiments
using it as a bridge to understanding playing patterns
- informal note groupings
for practice (1 to 8 notes, try 3-5-7), and also as means to understanding other drummers' taste/preference in rolls
here's mine stuff covered in the last meetup:
- awareness of tone and pitch
(with reference to an incredibly cheesy morning military bugle wake up-call >.< )
- shapes in drumming
- splitting up rudiments
using it as a bridge to understanding playing patterns
- informal note groupings
for practice (1 to 8 notes, try 3-5-7), and also as means to understanding other drummers' taste/preference in rolls
marcdadrummer
New member
Just for everyone peripheral.
Exerpt of cymbal cleaning :
Brilliant finish:
1) pour MR METAL on it and use magiclean cloth to clean it until you see bronze particles on your cloth. FOLLOW THE GROOOVEEE IMPT!!
2) always use clean sides when polishing.
3) use a orange cloth to take away leftover polishing material.
Reapeat step 1) to 3) for a standard brilliant finish.
Traditional finish:
1) Follow step one as mentioned above.
2) Follow step two as mentioned above.
3) same also
4) Use a sabian cymbal cleaner and wipe it off using orange cloth until desired finish is aquired. If no sabian use zildjian or paiste oso can - i think.
5) reapeat steps if necessary.
Exerpt of cymbal cleaning :
Brilliant finish:
1) pour MR METAL on it and use magiclean cloth to clean it until you see bronze particles on your cloth. FOLLOW THE GROOOVEEE IMPT!!
2) always use clean sides when polishing.
3) use a orange cloth to take away leftover polishing material.
Reapeat step 1) to 3) for a standard brilliant finish.
Traditional finish:
1) Follow step one as mentioned above.
2) Follow step two as mentioned above.
3) same also
4) Use a sabian cymbal cleaner and wipe it off using orange cloth until desired finish is aquired. If no sabian use zildjian or paiste oso can - i think.
5) reapeat steps if necessary.
marcdadrummer
New member
Cymbal Cleaning but a little different and safer method:
1) Go to your local wet market or Supermarket store and get yourself small lime - those little green balls that is usually served with mee rebus.
2) Wet your cymbal with tap water - reason being to remove all dust particles on your cymbal and to dilute the lime acid that'll be used later.
3) Once the whole surface (top and bottom) has been covered with water, cut the small lime into half and use one side first and squeeze out those lime while maintaining a circular motion until fully covered the surface. (work on the top surface first)
4) Rub away fingermarks and all those nasty stuff and make sure to repeat step 3 with a few small limes until the desired brilliant/traditional finish is acquired.
5) repeat step 3 on the bottom surface.
6) This critical step is to remove all acids on the cymbal. Pour some shampoo (any brand) onto your cymbal and spread it around going in a circular motion.
7) Make sure everything is covered with the shampoo. wait for like 20 seconds then rinse both sides off with tap water till everything is gone and u can see the cymbal is restored and no more shampoo is left.
8) Use a clean cloth and dry your cymbal.
voila!!! your cymbal is cleaned without the risk of your logos fading... i've tried it on the small scale splashes and it restores it to its formerly brilliant condition.
1) Go to your local wet market or Supermarket store and get yourself small lime - those little green balls that is usually served with mee rebus.
2) Wet your cymbal with tap water - reason being to remove all dust particles on your cymbal and to dilute the lime acid that'll be used later.
3) Once the whole surface (top and bottom) has been covered with water, cut the small lime into half and use one side first and squeeze out those lime while maintaining a circular motion until fully covered the surface. (work on the top surface first)
4) Rub away fingermarks and all those nasty stuff and make sure to repeat step 3 with a few small limes until the desired brilliant/traditional finish is acquired.
5) repeat step 3 on the bottom surface.
6) This critical step is to remove all acids on the cymbal. Pour some shampoo (any brand) onto your cymbal and spread it around going in a circular motion.
7) Make sure everything is covered with the shampoo. wait for like 20 seconds then rinse both sides off with tap water till everything is gone and u can see the cymbal is restored and no more shampoo is left.
8) Use a clean cloth and dry your cymbal.
voila!!! your cymbal is cleaned without the risk of your logos fading... i've tried it on the small scale splashes and it restores it to its formerly brilliant condition.
marcdadrummer
New member
the patina of a cymbal may affect the sound...
Patina is sexy!
According to Stanton Moore, he does "apply lemon juice and salt to quicken the patina process. that can help let the smoke, sweat, grease etc. accumulate faster and help mellow some of those unwanted overtones as well."
And for the process he says:
"i just get lemon juice at the store. it comes in a plastic lemon. i pour a little salt on the cymbal, then pour some lemon juice and start rubbing it all in with a towel. it won't clean the cymbal and make it glisten, it instantly petina's the cymbal and allows the cymbal to start the petina process quicker and mellow out quicker."
Can read it here:
http://www.stantonmoore.com/board/files/viewtopic.php?t=165
According to Stanton Moore, he does "apply lemon juice and salt to quicken the patina process. that can help let the smoke, sweat, grease etc. accumulate faster and help mellow some of those unwanted overtones as well."
And for the process he says:
"i just get lemon juice at the store. it comes in a plastic lemon. i pour a little salt on the cymbal, then pour some lemon juice and start rubbing it all in with a towel. it won't clean the cymbal and make it glisten, it instantly petina's the cymbal and allows the cymbal to start the petina process quicker and mellow out quicker."
Can read it here:
http://www.stantonmoore.com/board/files/viewtopic.php?t=165
RudimentalDrummer
Moderator
Wah killerbee - such valuable info..or Cymbal's Recipe...only found here at Soft Drummer's Forum...great Info........Patina ahhh I see.
Yes I know those Plastic Lemon with juice inside hahahaha ! ...add a pinch of salt - try out one of my cymbals - then the balance - Feast it let's make some Lemon Chicken...
Yes I know those Plastic Lemon with juice inside hahahaha ! ...add a pinch of salt - try out one of my cymbals - then the balance - Feast it let's make some Lemon Chicken...
alvinthedrummer
New member
Or you can just spit on it!! Hahaha...then you can REALLY tell people it was personally patinated by yourself....
DullTheater
Member
errmmm.. wats patina?
sounds like a girl... hahahaha
sounds like a girl... hahahaha
Haha! Sexy stuff lor!
It's the green thing on the cymbals that comes with aging. Some like it, some don't. I think people who prefer it, are mostly jazz cats who like their sound dark and vintage-y. It supposedly mellows out the sound.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patina
It's the green thing on the cymbals that comes with aging. Some like it, some don't. I think people who prefer it, are mostly jazz cats who like their sound dark and vintage-y. It supposedly mellows out the sound.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patina
DullTheater
Member
so patina is the green algae-ish dirt on the cymbal???
WHY THE HECK DO THEY USE A GIRL'S NAME FOR A DIRT?
hmmm..........................................................
WHY THE HECK DO THEY USE A GIRL'S NAME FOR A DIRT?
hmmm..........................................................
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