Low wat Tube Amp to choose for metal /shred

[wck]

I have the ht-5 and the amount of gain it has is enough for EVH stuff IMO and I use a low output single coil. How much gain do u want anw?

 

[audioslave]

hi,
thanks to all for the inputs,
today i had the oppt to try at a musician home who owns a HT 5,
a DS-1 vs Amp gain. Prefer the pedal distortion, somehow it sounds
more harsh and edgy than the amp gain.

 

[bf0502tr]

hmmm the original tubes in the ht5 are pretty warm sounding. swapping them out for tungsols have been reviewed to be a good mod for this sound box

 

[templar03]

Why do i keep hearing people say that the HT-5 not enough gain? Sometimes i feel its too much actually,especially when you have the overdrive boosted. My gain is around 2 or 3 o clock and its perfect for thrash tone.

 

[MadWerewolfBoy]

Why do i keep hearing people say that the HT-5 not enough gain? Sometimes i feel its too much actually,especially when you have the overdrive boosted. My gain is around 2 or 3 o clock and its perfect for thrash tone.

hey i'm as puzzled as you dood! maybe they're actually talking about the type of distortion instead of the amount of distortion. how gritty / smooth it is instead of the amount of distortion.

i'm using 323mV bridge pup and 270mV neck pup and i'm getting more than heavy tones when my gain is around 3 o'clock. maxing it is quite over the top for me. I do get less grit with the same settings on my mid pup however, a 140mV hum cancelling single, but not that much of a difference after the gain is past 12 o'clock

 

[ShredCow]

When I went to that open in Penni... what's that dealer again? The HT-5 was running at shred-level gain. Stock. I'm just as puzzled.

 

[wck]

Shredcow: Its woodworkz

hi,
thanks to all for the inputs,
today i had the oppt to try at a musician home who owns a HT 5,
a DS-1 vs Amp gain. Prefer the pedal distortion, somehow it sounds
more harsh and edgy than the amp gain.

Seems that the character of distortion is the problem, not the amount of gain.. The ht-5's distortion is pretty warm sounding and its nothing like the ds-1. If u want the ds-1 sound then go for it man..

No wonder everyone is confused that u think the ht-5 has too little gain haha.

 

[audioslave]

HT-5, a machine meant for rock to metal,
the gain character doesnt resemble metal sounding( in general).
more like rock sounding.
that's what i mean

 

[MadWerewolfBoy]

HT-5, a machine meant for rock to metal,
the gain character doesnt resemble metal sounding( in general).
more like rock sounding.
that's what i mean

actually, now i'm even more confused.

you're saying the ds-1 does a better job at getting a metal tone than the ht-5? is it a modded ds-1? try using the ISF on the ht-5, it might be pointing the wrong way

 

[PatheinRaindropMoe]

outta curiousity, what kinda sound reference(bands, recording etc) would fall into "metal sounding" territory for you.

One interesting to note is that most of the time, we tend to associate sound differently and according to the music that we are exposed to or have experience with. Thus, in some context, the geetar sound from judas priest might be metal for those who prolly know its history/heaviest music for them whereas some would proly hear metal sounding as only the sound of highly distorted/harsh geetar tone with little mids.

Other then amount of gain, there should be other factors at play as well, aka the voicing of the amp, the eq setting and whether the "metal sound" which you might be familiar with, is it from recording, cd(both with post production done on it) or live sound with their sound engineer tweaking it suitable for live setting etc.

 

[ShredCow]

Metal is in da PLAYING and LIFESTYLEEEEE.... pumping gain to 17 on a HellKillerFireSlayer tube amp is not necessarily metal if played by MLTR. Yes?

 

[MadWerewolfBoy]

what? there's already a 17!? last i heard was 11!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbVKWCpNFhY

 

[MadWerewolfBoy]

here's a video that may beneficial to all of us who wants to know the secret behind tweaking amps the right way (imo) for a pretty heavy and punchy sound. turn down gain + turn down bass + proper palm muting technique = wicked tight heavy tone with more punch. try that instead of tweaking drives to 11s, and ending up like a messy rojak of noise! =)

"the art of crunch" by jp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw5k6FYKMfU

 

[chungmun77]

...and this one for you guys to enjoy. It made me choke on my soya bean drink!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__0RBAzFB_8&NR=1

Harp effect, indeed..!