Long hair for school going guys petition

follow the rules, yes, but not rules that aren't necessary. not rules that are based on prejudice the society holds. by enforcing such rules, schools are promoting that prejudice.

now i believe we are talking about long hair. not tattoos. not piercings. agree with your uniform example but that doesn't relate to this issue. you seem to be pushing the points on the uniform rule onto the rule against long hair. which is extremely misleading and i believe a very illogical sequence.

name me the reasons why schools have rules on long hair for guys, don't you? name me one that isn't based on prejudice.

also, please let me know how guys having short hair would benefit society? uniformity? bleah, hair does not denote social class in any way. hair does not segregate. unless you're referring to division in the trivial case of short hair and long hair. then i must say i don't understand you at all.
 
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^+1, I think I explained myself more than sufficiently in my mini essay.

In all honesty, I'm not looking at this purely from the perspective of hair, I'm looking at it from the perspective of someone who views such societal norms as backward. Let's not bring the army into this, hell, if this was switzerland, I'd gladly go for bionic implants and shave my head bald if it helps me to fight better to defend my beliefs, Singapore? Hell no, I don't share the same beliefs as the majority of the people in this country, so why should I defend it?
 
Hmm, just some irrelevant details here.

Back when I was in Secondary School, not even the girls were allowed to keep long hair. Well, only those who were in dance were allowed to keep long hair. So yea.

To the above poster, doesn't the education system at least deserve some credit in your life? It's been so utterly oppressive and provided you with the skills required to lambast it. Well, unless you could completely dismiss the entire system, but not before it gives you something to hate/rant/utterly-dismiss.
 
Not really that popular, and it was a 'dump' CCA for those who ended up CCA-less. Turned out to be the one of the most consistent CCAs at SYF. They revoked that rule though, in my last year there.
 
I don't like Singapore's education system, I don't like the work life of a Singaporean, I don't like the mindsets of Singaporeans.

But I still love my country and I would die to defend my friends and family in time of need. Don't understand how one can display so much animorsity towards this country despite what we have already been blessed by.

Isn't chicken rice and teh-tarik good enough for us to love the nation??

"Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country." - JFK


Thread wise, I don't mind guys having long hair, but I guess there must be some credible reasons behind why certain schools disallow it, while some do. Nonetheless there must still be some form of order in the way students dress.
 
Maybe those who want to keep long hair can do home study instead? This way, no one can stop their personal growth. I know some who does this.

For me, I don't really like to work in an office, so I simply work at home.
 
van_halen said:
hydrofly, how do you plan to migrate away from singapore in 2-3 years? please share your ideas.
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Parents support my move, going to melbourne/sydney, finish varsity, seek employment, then after I'm gainfully employed, I can do my masters there as well. By that time, should be financially independent and stable enough to not come back.

-ok wait, technically my parents DO NOT SUPPORT me to evaporate from Singapore and contribute to the current brain drain, but trust me, I am surviving on hope, hope that one day, I will wrap my hands around freedom, then I shall never let go. Hell, I'd even serve in the military or a tour in Iraq if I had to, after all, it's in service of the free world.
 
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Asian norm is flawed? who are we to say whats right and whats wrong? There are many ways to define or perceive right and wrong. In fact, there are more ways to perceive males having long hair as wrong than right.
Norms do change here and there. Norms are a time and culture sensitive concept, its irrelevant to talk about the past or other cultures. yes. For instance, try adopting the einstein hair style, and see if anyone take you seriously in present day Singapore. Norms backwards or not thats something you cannot change. You can learn to play the game or you can ignore

ok and the issue of choice of hair length.
In a world where,majority of the population are deprived of the basic survival needs and vulnerable to diseases, they lack of the choice to choose if they live or die. Talking about choice of hair length is tantamount to blasphemy.

at the pri,sec school level, students do not yet understand what image to project for various kind of situations. Therefore it is important for the school ,as an institution of education and upbringing, to enforce such rules to prevent the students from short-changing themselves and their future by projecting a inappropriate self-image.

And the education system.. is quite decent. when you go into varsity education, you will be longing for the MOE system.
 
my hair was cut by the dm at least 5 times a year
at sec 4 i got fed up, studied at home, and barely went to school again.
thumbs up to hydrofly for this move.
 
meekahsoh said:
It's been so utterly oppressive and provided you with the skills required to lambast it.
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Not really, I picked up my argumentative essay skills simply by talking to people I disagreed with, and reading philosophical books from a very young age. Especially atheistic philosophical books, eg 'The Devil's Chaplain', read that when I was around 13 or 14. From there I saw the meaning of having true passion and fighting for what you believed in, for what you saw as right.

edit : messed up, the selfish gene doesn't really contain any real argumentative essays.
 
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no, i didnt quit school, i studied at home, and im sure i learnt more that way
at a neighbourhood school, the studying mentality is barely there.
 
Hi, i don't see whats the problem with long hair. The common misconception coming from the teachers are that once u spot long hair, you'll be deemed as untidy etc. But i believe long hair doesn't mean untidy, i don't see why you cant have long hair and keep it tidy at the same time. That's why many of the students in my school have been caught. But well, having lived the past four years with short hair, i think it ain't such a big deal. But i do hope that any notion of prejudices against male with long hair would be dismissed.
 
I like your opinions Daryl! It just doesn't make any sense how society allows girls to keep their hair long, but do not allow boys to.

And hifi_killer, I'm not sure which varsity education you're talking about, but the varsity education I'm undertaking at the moment makes me somewhat grateful to the MOE system, but it doesn't make me long for the MOE system at all. I reckon the MOE system pushes students a bit too hard though. It's not so stressful out there in the real world (unless you're in one of the Singapore universities maybe).

I wouldn't go so far as to say Asian norm is flawed, but in order to get to this "equal" world we keep talking about, Asian norms do have to progress quite a bit in my opinion.
 
Is there a such thing as a free world? or is freedom just a concept that the American imperialists use to brain wash the world to do its bidding?

In today's reality ,freedom is more associated with wealth than the conscious choice of an individual.

Just because you believe in something that majority do not , it does not make it right that you 'fight' for it.
In fact that is this is the source of many modern era bloody conflicts.
 
Let's bring it back to the most basic: literacy. Eh?(Forgive me for pursuing a dead horse)

Okay, my take is that there is an image we must project. In fact, I do not believe that Singapore is the sole society which places emphasis on at least some degree of hygiene and looking presentable. And it's rather trivial IMO. It helps in the sense that you'd project a neater image which others may associate with being more capable, and we know that first impressions matter, not just in Singapore, but everywhere else.

Isn't that one of the aims of the education system too? To prepare us for the challenges we may face in society. If we are unable to comply with a simple rule, would our employers/employees trust us with important tasks?

I haven't seen a Head-of-State with long hair. At least not a male one.
 
hifi_killer said:
Just because you believe in something that majority do not , it does not make it right that you 'fight' for it.
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Are we all just supposed to succumb to the rules and obey everything then? If people before us had done that, there would be no Catholic Church standing right now (not that I believe in a religion), there won't be democracy, hell, there probably wouldn't even be the Internet and we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
 
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