Joe Satriani Sues Coldplay..

Didn't sound THAT similar to me...I like Joe Sat's song, but the accents are very different and that really changes the way the tunes sound...Joe Sat accents the "1" and the subsequent bar's "1" and "4&", whereas Coldplay uses a similar riff but the entire thing is displaced 1.5 bars ahead, changing how the melody sounds. Besides, you can't jolly well copyright a #3, 4, 2 and variations of it - it's like copyrighting happy birthday or merry christmas and charging strictly for it. A little strict. For Joe Sat to succeed in court, he's going to need a jury verdict that the two songs are REALLY similar. While plagiarism is definitely bad, when something that simple is copyrighted, it takes away the chances of musicians to build and learn from the existing body of music. Look at how the Beatles and Rolling Stones took from Muddy Waters and Chuck Berry. Rather than being quick to point fingers and cry foul, musicians should allow some form of parallel use of the 12 existing notes in the English scale, rather than strictly enforcing their legal rights. Try singing "All I want is a little piece of heaven" to the tune. Is that plagiarized too?
 
Seriously, I think Coldplay did try to copy Satriani. It isn't really a easy thing to take in when some of your hardwork is being recognised by other people.(Might xplain why Joe is going through such great lengths to sort this out.)

"Instead of being too obvious with the guitar, lets turn it into a more pop-ish sound.. Anyway how many people do you think will recognise the difference? Look at the amount of pop-crazy people out there, probably 3% have only heard of Joe Satriani" (my opinion on what coldplay might have thought, its just some wild imagination, don't get too worked up.)

A collaboration would not work because its on two different platforms. pop is pop and joe is joe. I don't think either would be happy to collaborate either.
 
hmm... u can't deny that that part of Viva La Vida is influenced by If I Could Fly... but only that part wat. Joe MAY have a hard time proving his case. Chord Progressions doesn't prove anything, and Chris Martin didn't rip off the melody line completely.

Anyway there is always a form of "plagerism" in every band. Recently the song I wrote borrows influence from Plainsunset and Anberlin's "Never Take Friendship Personal", and that's only the LYRICS and MELODY so far.

MAny other songs actually sort of plagerises each other, although in nicer way they claim they are influenced by the varoius songs or artistes.

Believe me. this happens even in subtle ways
 
It's true about there being too many examples of songs sounding similiar already. If i am not wrong, Sean Kingston's song had the bass line that sounds exactly like the melody of Stand By Me.

What is good to see though are singers complimenting each others works, interpreting the sound of another in your style and knowledging the original in the first place. One good example is the song Irreplaceable by Beyonce. Sugarland did an excellent version of that song, a better version in my opinion (go look it up in youtube) and then they performed together at an award show....priceless....;)
 
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THROW IT AWAY! FORGET YESTERDAY! - Boys Like Girls
RUN BABY RUN! AS FAST AS YOU CAN! - We The Kings

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that is soooooooooo true..

everytime i listen to we the kings on radio i thought it was going to be the boys like girls song..


sean kingston is a big rip-off.. his song jamaica is a rip off from led zep's dyer maker..
 
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errrr, in my honest opinion, Joe Satriani isn't that rich as Coldplay that's why is sueing. And the chord progression is too typical. I think my guitarist made that progression once. Its too simple.

But both tracks combining sound quite cool

Dude, the melody of the guitar solo and singing. Not the chord progression. I think it's daylight plagiarism.
 
i personally love coldplay a lot. but even b4 this scandal,i think viva la vida was a very poor song they produced. the rest of the album was ok. speed of sound was crap. but parachute was their best album. but hope they lose. cos it is plagiarism.
 
It's true about there being too many examples of songs sounding similiar already. If i am not wrong, Sean Kingston's song had the bass line that sounds exactly like the melody of Stand By Me.

What is good to see though are singers complimenting each others works, interpreting the sound of another in your style and knowledging the original in the first place. One good example is the song Irreplaceable by Beyonce. Sugarland did an excellent version of that song, a better version in my opinion (go look it up in youtube) and then they performed together at an award show....priceless....;)

That's the diff between Sampling and Plagerising.

Sampling is when an artiste takes part of a song, acknowledging taking part of the song, and creates a new song out of it.

Plagerism is just plain wrong though though is Nickelback guilty of that?? :mrgreen:
 
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