How good are our local PRO musicians??

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ZiiopBoii

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I was tinking.. Locally we have pro footballers,singer,guitarist and many more.. When we see someone like a local footballer or guitarist or anyone doin wat dey do best.. we r soooo impressed by em n noe 4 sure dat they r gd..

But how will our local pros fair out against da rest of da world.. 1 example is Taufik (Sg Idol), we know dat guy can sing well but put him up against Toby (Rockstar) or Fantasia (american Idol).. How will he sound against em.. Tell me wat u tink guys??

Is it we got talented pple but Spore is juz da wrong place do be havin talent 4 many??


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If you mean technically, as in how many notes they can hit(singer), how fast they can play or how well they cover difficult songs(guitarist), then I'm sure Singapore has some that can match up, you probably wont see them on Singapore Idol though(because it is shit).

But if you mean creatively, in terms of original stuff, Singapore is simply put a shithole. I do not mean to put down local bands, but honestly, look at what Singapore has
1)Electrico
2)Ronin
Those two are the most famous, so i'll use them as an example.
They are not say "horrible", but they are definitely NOTHING special, they are unoriginal musically wise and anything that is remotely original I honestly want to turn off. Also, their lyrics just make me cringe at the thought that I can find better writing in secondary school literature classes.

I dont blame Singaporeans for "naturally sucking", it's really the kind of environment that you grow up in, it affects the way you view things, and Singapore is just plainly the worst place for anyone with creativity or desire for creativity.

I know i'm going off topic, but ahh well, I just want to say this.
 
well say wat u guys feel is true coz there is no rite or wrong here.... but 2 me bottom line is, Spore is juz not nurtured 2 be into dis kinda industry... We r channeled 2 be in education more.. Like if in other countries u got talent but dropped out skool u be a rockstar(Slash) but in spore u be a SembCorp Star.... :)
 
I agree with Blank.

Its in our culture to not step out of the box. Stay within there, and just play well, you're very very very very good!!!! Out of the box? Nope, sounds like noise.
 
yeah man i agree with Shredcow.... But wats da reason dats stopping us from growin more mature in dis line.. Cant be we r juz meant 2 be like dis... But any of u heard if Rudra B4.. I heard they r doin well in da UK.. Is it true????
 
blank said:
But if you mean creatively.
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I do agree with you on the environment thing. Malcolm MacLaren, former Sex Pistols manager, said during his visit here that Singapore music and culture will never be great because there's no drugs. I agree (as I'm sure Kiedis, Hendrix, and pretty much all good drugs-dependent musicians would), though of course there are other factors. For those inclined to taking things literally, the subtext here implies that our government's highly restrictive policies have affected the people's creative ability. Certainly, the PAP must take the bulk of the blame for our society's impairment in the area of creative expression.

I also agree with you that a lot of the 'original' music being made here doesn't sound original. My view is this: it is fine for a band to sound like a lot of bands (because even the 'best' foreign bands do, and because you're bound to hear evidence of their many influences). In fact, for me, a band doesn't have to be entirely original to be great. But when a band sounds like JUST ONE band, then in my eyes, they're nothing more than a tribute band. And Singapore has a Guns 'n Roses tribute band, a Muse tribute band and lots of Sum 41 tribute bands. :)

But Singapore does have her gems. I actually do think you're being rather harsh on Electrico - they've got some very nice tunes. Musically, I'd take theirs over Ronin's any day, hour or minute, but that's just a matter of taste. The fact is, both bands display the kind of work ethic that typifies the Singaporean worker and that's why they are where they are now. Anyway, I digress. We've got the Stoned Revivals. That alone, should elevate us from the shithole league. At least we're not as bad as the Germans.

:)
 
yah actually quite true. bt i wont continue on wat blank said. ive wrote many gp essays on this topic. dun wana start on another :lol:

bt basically u juz have a look at the education system. its so rigid theres little or no room for creativity. we are trained frm the start to be good workers who can bring singapores economy to the next level. yeah so theres little room for creativity. applying that to music, we are so used to conforming that we find it hard to think out of the box. like how we do ten years series to prepare for exams, we look to wat other bands haf done and make our songs based on that.

in terms of technicality however, im definitely sure that there are a few which can compare to international musicians.

imo theres is a limit to how well a person can play the guitar, ie guitar gods(vai,malmsteen etc) standard, which is not impossible to attain. creativity is however limitless.

yeah so basically imo in terms of technique, yes, there are locals who can be compared to international figures, bt creativity wise, we're still a long way behind.
 
Blank, First of all you say motley crue is not that good, and jason and gilby too, and local music is not your taste as well, so, what can really please you?
 
I think Singapore has a lot of talents. Very good musicians.

But we don't have many opportunities. It is still a difficult path for musicians locally. There are many reasons, and it may be the natural path that a society has to take to grow it's music culture.

One reason is public are not all ready to judge the musicians purely on music. One would rather buy a jazz cd from US rather than from Spore if price equally.

We also cannot blame musicians for being not creative entirely. They are sometimes limited by what they are told to do. Professional musicians need a salary to survive.

Local musicians used to not have as much exposure as overseas musicians.

But I think we are improving. Audiences are getting better and sophisticated. Musicians are getting more exposure now. We just need time to grow and blossom :)
 
Well abt da drugs things... Man juz remind me of my dad... B4 he even let me pick up a guitar, da 1st thing he said was " if some1 tells u 2 take drugs n u'll play like JIMI, kick his butt" coz he tinks its bullshit... n i do 2...

To me creativity is frm inspiration n frm within, u cant force it out, not wif ganja not wif heroin not wif ice not wif sh*t....

N if Jimi, Bob n many more had stayed out frm Ganja n all dat sh*t.. Maybe they will still be live n kickin 2 be rockin da stage n we might not Sux as much as now...

Anyway y supprort DRUGS which took our idol n legend away frm us... I wonder always y dey had 2 all go soo soon.... n really da ans was ezy, cos dey all used drugs... :cry:
 
SRV is one guy that went from drugs and back, and he still wrote great songs and played great guitar, drug-free.
So did Tommy :p

Pier.
 
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