hecklerkoch
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Am I right to say that the feud here is basically between metal purists who support the original bands who pioneered metal and aren't pure products of marketing people, against newer bands which (a lot of it) comprise of wannabes and poseurs who think that as long as they can shred and growl and scream, they deserve to be called rockstars and can basically get away with writing shitty music which sometimes doesn't even make sense but it's ok since half of their fans don't even know what exactly they are listening and headbanging to. They are just going with it because everybody else thinks it's cool, thus the poseur label.
I remember the hardcore movement was basically an anti-establishment kinda movement, the death metal was metal with a more brutal music with anti-Christ flavour and punk had an original rebellious nature to it, musically or otherwise. So, the themes were actually focused, and people don't get confused over one or another.
From the vibes I feel around (and descriptions from others around me), metalcore is basically a contradiction of sorts (most of the time, anyway) - where there's an emo side (breakdowns) with sad overtones, and there's a brutal side (the brutal growling). To some people, this marriage doesn't make sense in that the guttural, masculine growling doesn't really go well with the whiney emo lyrics and singing preceding in the song.
It's a hated combination because on one side, you have a feminine and loser-ish emo whining, singing about sadness and loneliness and whatever, then suddenly you've got testosterone-filled, masculine growling (not to be confused with screaming).
I am sure a lot here will basically (and possible violently) disagree but c'mon - I think if what I have said is totally wrong - you can always correct me and dispel the myths or untruth that lurk in the minds of people like me.
To put it simply - the picture just doesn't fit.
You don't have floppy, shiny hair or basically dress like an emo would, mascara and all, and then go up stage and growl brutally and expect people to think that you look cool.
I remember the hardcore movement was basically an anti-establishment kinda movement, the death metal was metal with a more brutal music with anti-Christ flavour and punk had an original rebellious nature to it, musically or otherwise. So, the themes were actually focused, and people don't get confused over one or another.
From the vibes I feel around (and descriptions from others around me), metalcore is basically a contradiction of sorts (most of the time, anyway) - where there's an emo side (breakdowns) with sad overtones, and there's a brutal side (the brutal growling). To some people, this marriage doesn't make sense in that the guttural, masculine growling doesn't really go well with the whiney emo lyrics and singing preceding in the song.
It's a hated combination because on one side, you have a feminine and loser-ish emo whining, singing about sadness and loneliness and whatever, then suddenly you've got testosterone-filled, masculine growling (not to be confused with screaming).
I am sure a lot here will basically (and possible violently) disagree but c'mon - I think if what I have said is totally wrong - you can always correct me and dispel the myths or untruth that lurk in the minds of people like me.
To put it simply - the picture just doesn't fit.
You don't have floppy, shiny hair or basically dress like an emo would, mascara and all, and then go up stage and growl brutally and expect people to think that you look cool.
