guitar pedal collectors ( some DS-1 content )

long time since I've updated this thread. busy school life is my best excuse.

so you've all probably heard about Shredcow's old mojolistic silver screw MIJ DS-1 with the momentary LED thing. if you ask me, that DS-1 is one of a kind.

I own 2 silver screw MIJ DS-1s, mainly for collection sake. however, I did an A/B test between the 2 DS-1s and yes, there is a significant difference. do note that the 2 DS-1s that I have are from the same batch. its getting interesting eh?

I'd use pictures to describe.

ssds1s1.jpg

newer left, older right

ssds1s2.jpg

same PCB, different caps ( in terms of size )

ssds1s3.jpg

same PCB, left was a plastic cover under it while the right was a cardboard cover. why is there an extra wire there? any idea?

ssds1s4.jpg

another look inside. all the pots are of the same value there.

ssds1s5.jpg

surprisingly, the newer one has a white switch while the older one has a black one. should be the other way round.

from what I noticed from the PCBs, the diodes and caps are different in shape. maybe different manufacturer but same value? I didnt really see. all I know is, its just like the MIJ DS-2 vs MIT DS-2. same PCB but different components.

maybe the techs on this forum can give some comments? I know its not easy to see the components from the pictures but just give some opinions maybe on why there would be such a difference even though they both use the same PCB.

in terms of sound, the older one sounds more transparent at the same settings. the difference is audible unlike late MIJ DS-1 vs early MIT DS-1. it is no wonder that Shredcow loves his so much. its perfect for boosting another drive pedal or a tube amp.

in conclusion, before laying down $200+ on a silver screw MIJ DS-1, check whether if it is the one with the momentary LED cos that would be the only DS-1 that is different from the entire herd.

comments comments! keep them coming!
 
U know dude, I keep telling myself, I don't need this DS1 sitting here... but its got so much mojo, I keep not wanting to give it away.

Maybe the momentary LED has the mojo. 8O

That said, unless my DS1 is rehoused, I see no point to put it in my board... I hardly ever use it nowadays.

Goose took my DS1 apart to check up some things, you could contact him abt it.
 
give it away?! shred, you might want to use another word, this particular sentence can get you alot of PMs on wanting your DS1

relinquish, you should change the subject to (alot of DS1 contents)
 
I reckon, like you mentioned, probably similar values but different manufacturer and/or tolerance levels. Could be a matter of cost and supply for the manufacturer to change it. They say the deviation in high tolerance values sometimes produce a 'better' tone, so that could be the reason.

I'm not surprised the different caps can produce a different tone. Changing the cap values and type are quite common in modding this pedal.

Well I've gotta say its quite difficult to let go of a ds1. It's not particularly good but it kinda grows on you. :D
 
U know dude, I keep telling myself, I don't need this DS1 sitting here... but its got so much mojo, I keep not wanting to give it away.

Maybe the momentary LED has the mojo.

That said, unless my DS1 is rehoused, I see no point to put it in my board... I hardly ever use it nowadays.

Goose took my DS1 apart to check up some things, you could contact him abt it.
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I'm so curious to know how your DS-1 looks like inside. I always have the feeling that my other silver screw DS-1 is modded. I've seen silver screw DS-1s that have a later serial number but have momentary LED. mine doesnt :(. whats your serial number btw?

anyway dude if you need any super huge favours, look for me :lol: !!

Where do I get a modded DS-1, or go to get a DS-1 modded?
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wah, dont just hijack thread like that leh :? . anyway, do a quick search on this forum. should produce many results.

give it away?! shred, you might want to use another word, this particular sentence can get you alot of PMs on wanting your DS1

relinquish, you should change the subject to (alot of DS1 contents)
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haha, there is a story behind this. you might want to ask Shredcow about it. I'm still thinking of ways of how to get it from him :oops:

I reckon, like you mentioned, probably similar values but different manufacturer and/or tolerance levels. Could be a matter of cost and supply for the manufacturer to change it. They say the deviation in high tolerance values sometimes produce a 'better' tone, so that could be the reason.

I'm not surprised the different caps can produce a different tone. Changing the cap values and type are quite common in modding this pedal.

Well I've gotta say its quite difficult to let go of a ds1. It's not particularly good but it kinda grows on you.
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the interesting thing to note is that these 2 pedals have the same serial number meaning that they were produced during the same period of time. this could mean that the transition period of DS-1s were somewhere along that line.

if only I had more moolah, I would definitely hunt for more silver screw version DS-1s :lol: .

to me the DS-1 is interesting. its not the best but it does have a certain character about it :).

the chip ... nothing but the chip

its old and dying ....
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I'm so not waiting for that day to come :(.

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I'm so waiting for more people to put their old Boss pedals for sale so that I can compare versions. in the mean time, I'm so happy with the DM300 that I bought from Goose. its like super bulky but I'm really satisfied with the delay. stacking it with a DD-2 seems like an interesting option as well.

totally awesome :D .

oh by the way, anyone else got old vintage beat up pictures to share 8) ?
 
Wat's a momentary LED ?
Do u have pictures?
Anyone selling this silver screw DS-1 u guys talking abt? Is the one at Orange.com (something) the same one ?
 
Wat's a momentary LED ?
Do u have pictures?
Anyone selling this silver screw DS-1 u guys talking abt? Is the one at Orange.com (something) the same one ?
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usually when you step on a boss pedal, the LED remains on until you step on it again. the one with the momentary LED only lights up when you step on it and will remain off when you lift you foot. very confusing for stage or recording use.

I'm not talking about the screws on the baseplate. rather, I'm refering to the one that holds the battery cover in place ( refer to my first picture ). Boss pedals made before 1981 had silver screws. current Boss pedals only have black screws. the one available at OrangeGuitar.com is probably the normal MIJ Boss DS-1. it still sounds good though. just see if you are willing to spend that kind of money.

hahaha...
cool old stuff r69..
any other old boss pedal that you are getting later?
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if I have the money....... I would get.........

1) DM-2 (1981 version, no compromise :twisted: )
2) PN-2 ( just for kicks )
3) HR-2 ( just for kicks again )
4) VB-2 ( if I'm lucky )
5) SP-1 ( I must be in heaven or something if I were to bump into one )
 
try photobucket.com maybe.

thats nice. beaten up = character = more mojo :lol: . are the knobs original?

btw on a side note, Ebenex music is selling a phaser variant of this series of Ibanez pedals. check it out if you are in to collecting pedals :) .
 
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Thanx for your help on uploading image. yup the knobs are all original. mojo?? hee...im not gd at comment sounds. currently its been service.
 
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