Getting over the Singaporean accent!!!!

[widdly]

alvyn

Hotel taxi queues give priority to hotel guests. The taxi queue's usually have a sign saying say. Did you consider it may have had nothing to do with race? Perhaps the Caucasian tourists in the hotel restaurant were also guests in the hotel, thus the preferential treatment. With your victim mentality and righteous indignation it's small wonder you didn't get good service when you ordered that glass of water.

 

[edder]

so now that we have your attention.

please raise your kids and your future kids to be bloody proud of their own heritage while being able to RESPECT but not IDOLISE other so called higher sentient beings.

Deal or no deal?

 

[guitarsan]

Like it or not, the colonial mentality still lingers in some S'poreans. The experts are of course the SPGs.

 

[serialninja]

yo........ i dun HATE s'porean who DUN speak singlish........
I HATE THOSE WHO DUN LIKE SINGISH....... S'PORE..... N S'POREANS......... N YET STILL LIVE HERE.......
from wat u've wirtten here, i CAN SAY tat U R PROUD 2 BE A S'POREAN, rite?

i don't really like listening to singlish, it's a bit hard to catch sometimes, especially since a lot of singaporeans speak very quickly.

but i love being singaporean and i love singapore (except the reservist which is kinda bothersome)

 

[wyldeboon]

reservist?
nvr kena once!!!

 

[alvyn]

widdly

What victim mentality? What righteous indignation? Please read what I typed out properly before jumping to such childish and absurd conclusions that points the finger back at me. Even if preferential treatment were to be given to PAYING CUSTOMERS (note I said customers, and not CAUCASIAN customers), there's no reason why I should have been pointedly ignored when I asked for water. Furthermore there were not other requests in the restaurant. Does this mean that my request should still have been turned down or ignored?

As for the bellboy, please spend some quality time reading the ST forums before making such an absurd post.

Why don't you reply to the forum post and ask the person if he considered that it had nothing to do with race.

By the way, you said "Perhaps the Caucasian tourists in the hotel were ALSO guests..." the also there implies that both parties were guests at the restaurant. So if I'm also a guest at the restaurant, and the caucasians get preferential treatment, doesn't this blow a huge big hole in your argument that I didn't consider if race wasn't an issue?

 

[widdly]

alvyn

Righteous indignation as in demanding to speak to a manager because you waited to long for a glass of water. Victim mentality as in assuming that the bad service you received is intentional and racially motivated.

I said "also guests" as in they were renting rooms. Hotels often give preferential treatment in their bars and restaurants to those renting rooms.

 

[optisailor2002]

Hotels often give preferential treatment in their bars and restaurants to those renting rooms.

... and if you're white.

 

[serialninja]

... and if you're white.

never been a problem for me, and i'm far from white.

 

[lexxmexx]

I used to feel the same way as the thread starter and was quite ashamed of my Singapore "Singlish heritage". But I have changed my views completely after seeing the world outside. Had been to places where it can be quite difficult to find another fellow Singaporean and one can feel really home sick if you are there for extended stays. On one occasion, I was lost and had approached a bypassing Asian for road directions in so-called proper English, and he replied in a very familiar Singlish accent, guess what we broke into a full blown Singlish conversation...warouz, it felt so much like home. It was the first time I felt so proud of our Singlish language, it was certainly a sense of identity. However, I had came across pretentious Singaporeans who gave me "eye-rolls" and insisted on continuing the conversation in their fake american-sitcom accent, which won't last very long due to obvious difference in mentality.

Unlike other countries with their unique language (French, Italian, German, Mainland China etc), Singapore with it's racial diversity have to LL accept English as the national language. But the great thing is that all true blue Singaporeans ("regardless of race, language or religion") had unanimously and unconsciously agreed upon and mutated the English language into our very own 'mother tongue' - Singlish!

Think about it, if we simply adopt the accent of English or American people, I don't think we will have any identity of our own. Like it or not, it is so easy to identify a Singaporean when in overseas, just like the way we identify British, Americans, and even HK people with their 'unique' HK accent...LOL

 

[optisailor2002]

never been a problem for me, and i'm far from white.

perhaps you are just lucky then. i have experienced much prejudice from fellow singaporeans who bitch about us not giving our "own people" equal rights as ang mohs. just go to guitar shops in singapore (shant mention names of the shops) and this phenomenon is easy to see. perhaps you wont encounter such prejudice. i see your sig says "west grand boulevard" so i guess you wont meet with such bad experiences with local guitar dealers since you are a member of a known local band. well just too bad for people who get prejudiced then, it just makes racial prejudice seem justified and right.

i guess the only solution for such a problem: if you are an asian in an asian country, do not expect service at all. i disagree with many people on how "bad service is better than no service." personally i prefer no service over bad service. after all we are asians. we are a lower race.

 

[serialninja]

i guess the only solution for such a problem: if you are an asian in an asian country, do not expect service at all. i disagree with many people on how "bad service is better than no service." personally i prefer no service over bad service. after all we are asians. we are a lower race.

i think there's a difference between not getting the service you want, and assuming it's racially motivated. perhaps you're jumping the gun.


ps. with regard to the guitar stores...if anyone isn't as attentive as you like then just make it clear that you intend to make a purchase and tell them what you want/need help for. your money is as good as anyone else's, they just want to know you're ready to spend.

 

[optisailor2002]

hmm i think guitar shops should not look down on students and assume that students are too poor to afford anything. i mean, if you dont give us service its ok, but taking away guitars when we are trying them out is really too much. the worst part is that when the guitar is already taken by one of the sales people to let me inspect for any cosmetic blemishes, another one comes along and takes the guitar away and proceeds to hang it back onto the wall. i may not be ang moh and i may not look rich, but end of the day i bought the guitar anyways.

btw, what do you mean i have to make my intentions of buying a guitar clear? and i thought singapore often boasts about good quality service and such? is preparing to pay for the guitar a good enough sign of showing that im about to make a purchase?

 

[rottenramone]

after all we are asians. we are a lower race.

wah, why so emo?

 

[optisailor2002]

wah, why so emo?

haha not emo, its just the reality. even asians think so too.

 

[rottenramone]

hmm i think guitar shops should not look down on students and assume that students are too poor to afford anything. i mean, if you dont give us service its ok, but taking away guitars when we are trying them out is really too much.

those shopkeepers also prob share the same view lah bro. some students also need to have basic respect for the instrument, like not treating it as some piece of furniture. the product needs to be in pristine condition before a sale.

just the correct balance of common courtesy and respect will do a lot of good, singlish or not.

 

[optisailor2002]

then it is those few people who treat instruments with no respect at all who have caused such a bias to arise? i think its unfair cos i treat all instruments with much care and respect. especially in guitar shops and in studios where the guitars do not belong to me.

 

[rottenramone]

of course its unfair! and its always those few a$$holes who'll ruin the whole thing. but it will always happen and will continue to happen.

like the reality of asians being ashamed of themselves.

 

[gutturalpiss]

There are proud asians, like a friend of mine.

DAMN PROUD ASIAN: Eh, you know why ang moh all so big and hairy?
Me: Huh?
DPA: They still apes loh. Haven't evolve properly. Only asians are complete humans.

 

[cliffburton]

Actually kinda funny!!!
I hate ang moh!! always cause trouble..