I'm not a whining lovelovelovelovelove, do you think I just complain? Nope. I go out there and go out of my way to make myself noticed. Not really successful but hey, one has to start somewhere. Metal will never be accepted by the majority because their too weak to find themselves, IF WE METALHEADS WANT A DAMN FESTIVAL, WE BETTER MAKE ONE OURSELVES
can we have a local band festival just for rockers?
- Thread starter AxRow
- Start date
kerplunk182
New member
HOI! Insult techno! Duk chi duk chi duk chi... Jkjk.
don't think big yet, think SMALL. Start out by having gigs, don't bother doing this if you haven't got a guilty conscience because you're going to NEED to EXPLOIT the shit outta the bands. Stash all profits for those gigs for FUTURE gigs, then grow it. Easier said than done though.
hecklerkoch
New member
Yes, if you think that the business side (at least making profits is not the main objective) of music is not important at all in this kind of event - the only way is to really organize it yourselves.
Get some metalheads who have some money, pool them together (metalheads + their money) and DIY. The benefits that I can think of (if you manage to pull this together) are -
1) At least the organizers (you metalheads, that is) know what the audience want, since they are passionate about metal themselves.
2) The organizers will know exactly what goes on behind the scene, in terms of what really needs to be done, the steps that need to be taken right from the start to the end, all that planning and final execution.
3) The organizers will eventually come to learn, experience and appreciate the non-music side of organizing a music event - it does take a lot of effort and planning. Not to mention money. If you want to do a good show, that is, and not a half-baked gig that you will forget in three days (I think there are a lot of these nowadays - primarily because it's more about making money than anything else, to the organizers).
IMHO, I think these kind of festivals should start on a more focused tone - restrict one festival/event to either metal or rock (hard rock or pop rock or indie rock or emo rock or pussy rock or whatever) so that people can make a much speedier decision to attend because you don't want them to be confused and have to mull over whether they should come cos there's a large possibility of fat emo kids with thunder thighs turning up in skinny jeans, some with their buttcracks showing if you hold a festival and mix a few metal bands and a few emo bands together.
Well, I foresee that if the metalheads here (at least the mature ones with some money) are really passionate about this idea of organizing a festival themselves - it can still happen, with guidance and professional advice from S.O.F.T, and of course referrals to sponsors (cos a festival to me is quite big - at least 1,000 people attending).
What you guys need is just to start the planning, think and list every single detail about the tasks that need to be done to make this event happen, and take it from there. I am sure there are some business students here who at least know something about event planning, and budgeting and all that shit.
Yes, it is easy to imagine yourselves playing on the stage under the bright lights and having your rockstar moment but there IS a lot of work behind all that to make it happen, at least in a festival setting. The logistic part will probably turn you off - all that technical aspects of sound, the stage that needs to be built, ticketing, crowd control and security, sponsorship, marketing and advertising, performance licensing, contingency planning (in case it rains), presentation (banners, poster etc), host(s) and a lot of other shit. Of course you can tie up with some event planners or venue owners (like The Esplanade, for example) but that will definitely add to the costs considerably.
I think the whole point is - there are a lot of youngsters here in Singapore who are into metal music, and maybe a lot of them are good musicians too who can definitely put up a good show but there may be a lack of their older counterparts who have the money, the maturity, the experience and the level-headedness to guide the youngsters, or at least help organize these types of metal music festivals. Not with the local current emphasis on conventional career paths of being lawyers, doctors, banking professionals and all that. It's just not a popular and profitable path to take in Singapore, being a full-time musician or something like that.
Get some metalheads who have some money, pool them together (metalheads + their money) and DIY. The benefits that I can think of (if you manage to pull this together) are -
1) At least the organizers (you metalheads, that is) know what the audience want, since they are passionate about metal themselves.
2) The organizers will know exactly what goes on behind the scene, in terms of what really needs to be done, the steps that need to be taken right from the start to the end, all that planning and final execution.
3) The organizers will eventually come to learn, experience and appreciate the non-music side of organizing a music event - it does take a lot of effort and planning. Not to mention money. If you want to do a good show, that is, and not a half-baked gig that you will forget in three days (I think there are a lot of these nowadays - primarily because it's more about making money than anything else, to the organizers).
IMHO, I think these kind of festivals should start on a more focused tone - restrict one festival/event to either metal or rock (hard rock or pop rock or indie rock or emo rock or pussy rock or whatever) so that people can make a much speedier decision to attend because you don't want them to be confused and have to mull over whether they should come cos there's a large possibility of fat emo kids with thunder thighs turning up in skinny jeans, some with their buttcracks showing if you hold a festival and mix a few metal bands and a few emo bands together.
Well, I foresee that if the metalheads here (at least the mature ones with some money) are really passionate about this idea of organizing a festival themselves - it can still happen, with guidance and professional advice from S.O.F.T, and of course referrals to sponsors (cos a festival to me is quite big - at least 1,000 people attending).
What you guys need is just to start the planning, think and list every single detail about the tasks that need to be done to make this event happen, and take it from there. I am sure there are some business students here who at least know something about event planning, and budgeting and all that shit.
Yes, it is easy to imagine yourselves playing on the stage under the bright lights and having your rockstar moment but there IS a lot of work behind all that to make it happen, at least in a festival setting. The logistic part will probably turn you off - all that technical aspects of sound, the stage that needs to be built, ticketing, crowd control and security, sponsorship, marketing and advertising, performance licensing, contingency planning (in case it rains), presentation (banners, poster etc), host(s) and a lot of other shit. Of course you can tie up with some event planners or venue owners (like The Esplanade, for example) but that will definitely add to the costs considerably.
I think the whole point is - there are a lot of youngsters here in Singapore who are into metal music, and maybe a lot of them are good musicians too who can definitely put up a good show but there may be a lack of their older counterparts who have the money, the maturity, the experience and the level-headedness to guide the youngsters, or at least help organize these types of metal music festivals. Not with the local current emphasis on conventional career paths of being lawyers, doctors, banking professionals and all that. It's just not a popular and profitable path to take in Singapore, being a full-time musician or something like that.
MadWerewolfBoy
New member
Hey, on a totally side note, my A level GP compo was about music and had Germany's metal festival Wackens metioned inside and I got a B! Woot! The marker must have seriously been a metalhead of sort...
Cavett
New member
That's quite sad to hear as he was really championing local music. Too bad I lost his number when I changed hp.
Anthony if you read this, it will be great if you could make a come back!
theunknown
New member
if we gather all metalheads and rockers and get $10 bucks from each, how much do u think we can get? we can hit a million im sure. invite metallica...slayer...megadeth...anthrax..blablabla...bla...emperor...guns and roses...
MadWerewolfBoy
New member
How do u get $10 from each? Extort?
PatheinRaindropMoe
New member
mwahahaha, democracy to do with metal music??
another kuhlassic of soft!
another kuhlassic of soft!
PatheinRaindropMoe
New member
ah, i see.
heh, my bad. Just kinda amused by the way you put it, coz it remind me of chee soon juan..
heh, my bad. Just kinda amused by the way you put it, coz it remind me of chee soon juan..
PunkyPorky
New member
I think you're forgetting one thing...Singapore is not the democracy it claims to be...it's Republican...like Bush...if we were really a democracy, our voices will be given attention to...come to think of it...a lot of people say stuff which I doubt will be put into action...in fact I think most of the sub culture peeps we meet are just into it for a fashion parade...we don't see them really living the talk they procliam.They end up being another dog of society...I'm no punk/metalhead/whatever...but I like the idea of "doing things my way"....so I live that out day in day out, rather than hide behind some facade people call sub culture...
My point here is that you can preach all you want to every metalhead you want...but how many can you convince to walk the talk...Woodstock was not formed by some rich arse....but rather a group of hippies who wanted a place to share the love...so in ending...everything will work out if you can convince them to die for their love for metal....
gutturalpiss
New member
Think before you preach. When you say "MORE PEOPLE MUST SUPPORT METAL" (or any derivative), do you really mean that? It's a big fallacy to mention the lack of mainstream appreciation as being a primary cause for that very lack of support.
YOU are the problem. Have you ever heard the same holy phrase from the same guy who says "POWER METAL IS FOR PUSSIES"? Or how about.."WHEN METAL BECOMES MAINSTREAM I'LL KILL MYSELF"? Now we have two parties:
1) Metal must become mainstream so we get more support; permissions; venues; chics; dough; fame; foobar.
2) Metal must NOT become mainstream so we don't have to deal with an overpopulation of posers; wannabes; loverockers; corekids.
Don't talk about Finland or other Nordic "Metal" lands where dragons and elves dwell. Our situation is vastly different. When it comes to the culture of Metal music, we are followers, not pioneers. We adopted it; we didn't grow into it. No matter how united Metalheads are internationally, the way Metalheads in Europe think and live has, to a significant extent, no similarity to the way most of us do.
I'm talking about an internal cultural segregation, very similar to a racial one. Look at a mainland Indian or Chinese man, talk to him. Bring up the question about provinces and see what he has to say. It's stupid. The problem is never on the outside.
YOU are the problem. Have you ever heard the same holy phrase from the same guy who says "POWER METAL IS FOR PUSSIES"? Or how about.."WHEN METAL BECOMES MAINSTREAM I'LL KILL MYSELF"? Now we have two parties:
1) Metal must become mainstream so we get more support; permissions; venues; chics; dough; fame; foobar.
2) Metal must NOT become mainstream so we don't have to deal with an overpopulation of posers; wannabes; loverockers; corekids.
Don't talk about Finland or other Nordic "Metal" lands where dragons and elves dwell. Our situation is vastly different. When it comes to the culture of Metal music, we are followers, not pioneers. We adopted it; we didn't grow into it. No matter how united Metalheads are internationally, the way Metalheads in Europe think and live has, to a significant extent, no similarity to the way most of us do.
I'm talking about an internal cultural segregation, very similar to a racial one. Look at a mainland Indian or Chinese man, talk to him. Bring up the question about provinces and see what he has to say. It's stupid. The problem is never on the outside.
Similar threads
Latest posts
-
Looking for an Experience Singer for Acoustic Duo Band
- Latest: Aliah Aljunied
-
-
-