brokensinglish
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ey brudder strats, how come you say the thing here like don't make connection to anyone one's post huh? post wrongly izit?
advisable to trade POT tele for fernandes SSH "superstr
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brokensinglish
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ShredCow. of cos i got go G77, you should say :
"you don't sound like you drop any of their guitar before".
heh. like that more zhun. guitar stock no stock, i dunno. this situation like got better solution than ask ah boy to swallow.
edder, troll in disguise? no lah. englis elucated in lisguise. hope i tok like that didn't set your komputer on fire.
"you don't sound like you drop any of their guitar before".
heh. like that more zhun. guitar stock no stock, i dunno. this situation like got better solution than ask ah boy to swallow.
edder, troll in disguise? no lah. englis elucated in lisguise. hope i tok like that didn't set your komputer on fire.
bin4christ
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ok,i'm back..
i think i've pretty much told the whole story here..
n pls, dont think bad of G77 mates..they are gd guys..i'm sure them uncles didnt feel gd earning money like tt..he was real lenient on me..n those of u who kno incle dennis,i'm sure u kno tt he aint a bad dude(even paid for the taxi fares to my fren's office n back to peninsula)..
but 1 thing i feel is,it'd help the situation if they put the guitars like they used to in their old unit..which is now the acoustic unit(u kno,balance on something..not juz hung by the neck)..
as for pics,2ml can?hehehe..
this incident,i think,has done me more gd than harm lah..gave me some kinda phobia wen going to guitar shops..so i wont 'waste' much time going there anymore( o lvls in 2.5 mnths!)..
this is soo OT..read the title of the thread mates.. :lol:
i think i've pretty much told the whole story here..
n pls, dont think bad of G77 mates..they are gd guys..i'm sure them uncles didnt feel gd earning money like tt..he was real lenient on me..n those of u who kno incle dennis,i'm sure u kno tt he aint a bad dude(even paid for the taxi fares to my fren's office n back to peninsula)..
but 1 thing i feel is,it'd help the situation if they put the guitars like they used to in their old unit..which is now the acoustic unit(u kno,balance on something..not juz hung by the neck)..
as for pics,2ml can?hehehe..
this incident,i think,has done me more gd than harm lah..gave me some kinda phobia wen going to guitar shops..so i wont 'waste' much time going there anymore( o lvls in 2.5 mnths!)..
this is soo OT..read the title of the thread mates.. :lol:
bin4christ
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right dudes,here goes..
sorry,crappy cam+crappy photography skills=bad photos..
it's quite a big ding(imo) but no paint scratch..
but well,damage is done
theblueark
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brokensinglish said:
Very simple.
If he don't buy the guitar, no police is going to come knocking on his door. Just that everytime he goes to guitar77 he'll be "the guy that knocked over a guitar and didn't buy it". And he'll be forced to stand outside and see no touch. That's the way I would run it.
Ya still can sell what. He buy liao he can sell it 2nd hand at discount and make back the rest. It's not the job of the shop to do it for him.
blueark, it' not the job for the shop to do it for him. true.
but i think what a few person are suggesting here is, in the first place, should the shop have made him buy the guitar?
brokensinglish say that it's partially the responsibility of the shop owner. which i agree. they should have supervise the trying out. after the incident happened where are the options for resolving a problem where both party is at fault?
it would have been much easier for G77 to re-sell the guitar at a discount (of course also ask the guy who drop it to pay a compensation), than ask the guy to pay the full amount?? a student? re-sorting to borrowing from a friend?
there is a contention. he didn't drop it on purpose. he place it in a place where the holder did not really hold the guitar properly.... who's fault? customer? perhaps. but entirely?
it will be interesting to see what majority of the people's view are towards this. if everyone thinks it's perfectly justified what G77 did, i'll be glad as a guitar shop. any guitars i can't sell? well, just loosen a few screw on the guitar holder and wait for a customer to come and touch it. ok, ok, i am exaggerating. but then, i do have a point.
at the end of this, i am not faulting G77. it's their rights. but i surely think lesser of them, if not business wise, then at least in the area of problem solving skills for customers.
but i think what a few person are suggesting here is, in the first place, should the shop have made him buy the guitar?
brokensinglish say that it's partially the responsibility of the shop owner. which i agree. they should have supervise the trying out. after the incident happened where are the options for resolving a problem where both party is at fault?
it would have been much easier for G77 to re-sell the guitar at a discount (of course also ask the guy who drop it to pay a compensation), than ask the guy to pay the full amount?? a student? re-sorting to borrowing from a friend?
there is a contention. he didn't drop it on purpose. he place it in a place where the holder did not really hold the guitar properly.... who's fault? customer? perhaps. but entirely?
it will be interesting to see what majority of the people's view are towards this. if everyone thinks it's perfectly justified what G77 did, i'll be glad as a guitar shop. any guitars i can't sell? well, just loosen a few screw on the guitar holder and wait for a customer to come and touch it. ok, ok, i am exaggerating. but then, i do have a point.
at the end of this, i am not faulting G77. it's their rights. but i surely think lesser of them, if not business wise, then at least in the area of problem solving skills for customers.
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This is why shops have "Please call us for our assistance".
You dropped it, you buy it. So you telling me secondary school kids have excuses to run away from such acts? Just because they do not have enough money? Then it wouldn't be fair to us semi-working or working adults right? Aren't we also getting money from others? You think a lot?
On the other hand, it is your responsibility after trying the guitar. It is obvious telecasters generally have smaller headstocks than other guitars, the more you should "CALL FOR THEIR ASSISTANCE" and ask them to put it back for you. They are friendly guys, and it won't take more than 10 steps to put it back for you. I don't think they will ask you wank off and go put yourself or something?
Let's face it, just like any glass-made display set you see in Kalm's or gift shops, you drop it, you pay. Even if its a slight ding or scratch, it still lowers down the sell off price. Don't you guess get very sick of people blaming others and not themselves? Keep bitching about local shops and it is often they themselves who do not obey some simple rules?
Next time, read the rules or guide before carrying out your own actions. If not, bear your own actions.
You dropped it, you buy it. So you telling me secondary school kids have excuses to run away from such acts? Just because they do not have enough money? Then it wouldn't be fair to us semi-working or working adults right? Aren't we also getting money from others? You think a lot?
On the other hand, it is your responsibility after trying the guitar. It is obvious telecasters generally have smaller headstocks than other guitars, the more you should "CALL FOR THEIR ASSISTANCE" and ask them to put it back for you. They are friendly guys, and it won't take more than 10 steps to put it back for you. I don't think they will ask you wank off and go put yourself or something?
Let's face it, just like any glass-made display set you see in Kalm's or gift shops, you drop it, you pay. Even if its a slight ding or scratch, it still lowers down the sell off price. Don't you guess get very sick of people blaming others and not themselves? Keep bitching about local shops and it is often they themselves who do not obey some simple rules?
Next time, read the rules or guide before carrying out your own actions. If not, bear your own actions.
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FenderFan: Dude you have to understand, reselling isn't so easy. Some people don't mind that scratch but I believe most do. Who wants a damaged guitar? Even if it is cosmetics damage it is bad enough.
And in general, can you imagine people selling 'defected' goods? Let's say 10 people come in to G77, drops 10 guitars, pays for compensation and walks away. So G77 will be rated the "selling damaged guitar shop"? It isn't fair for them right? Despite the fact they lowered the price but it obviously don't make sense.
And to be honest, I believe G77 have faith in those people who wanna try the guitars, and seriously I think they have better things to do to babysit you throughout your whole session of trying out the guitar. I've seen some people trying 1 single guitar for 1 hour, you expect them to stand there throughout?
Also, like I've said, if you wanna take/put back, ask for assistance. People put paper big big for you to see, so please don't blame anyone if you are 'forced' to buy the guitar.
And in general, can you imagine people selling 'defected' goods? Let's say 10 people come in to G77, drops 10 guitars, pays for compensation and walks away. So G77 will be rated the "selling damaged guitar shop"? It isn't fair for them right? Despite the fact they lowered the price but it obviously don't make sense.
And to be honest, I believe G77 have faith in those people who wanna try the guitars, and seriously I think they have better things to do to babysit you throughout your whole session of trying out the guitar. I've seen some people trying 1 single guitar for 1 hour, you expect them to stand there throughout?
Also, like I've said, if you wanna take/put back, ask for assistance. People put paper big big for you to see, so please don't blame anyone if you are 'forced' to buy the guitar.
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And to add on,
I don't think you have a point. The guitars are hanging there nicely, meaning it holds well. If you didn't put it properly, shop's fault? Shop put it there, you take it down, you put it there, guitar drop; SHOP's FAULT? Hurhur.
It is more interesting to actually see people disagreeing to G77's way of doing things. Cause this is what is happening to the real world, anywhere you go. Well fenderfan I certainly wanna see you to be a boss someday. And do post your shop to us so we can drop guitars so every often.
Cheers~
I don't think you have a point. The guitars are hanging there nicely, meaning it holds well. If you didn't put it properly, shop's fault? Shop put it there, you take it down, you put it there, guitar drop; SHOP's FAULT? Hurhur.
It is more interesting to actually see people disagreeing to G77's way of doing things. Cause this is what is happening to the real world, anywhere you go. Well fenderfan I certainly wanna see you to be a boss someday. And do post your shop to us so we can drop guitars so every often.
Cheers~
I disagree with shops making people pay for the item they damage by accident. Running a business is about making money, yes, but running a business also involves risk. Displaying, or should I say hanging guitars like that incurs a certain amount of risk. This is a risk the shop should account for, and not put the risk they decide to take on the customers. Guitars should be sold to people who want to buy and have the money, not to people who do not want to buy and cannot afford one. Making a young boy pay for a $1k guitar he damaged by accident just isn't right. He obviously does not have any means or ways to afford it. I believe this can be considered as extortion. A better solution is to take down his particulars and make him work at the shop to pay back for the damages or the guitar and if he does not return, make a police report.
agreed Newbie, always get the staff to assist. Even though i'm allowed to make G77 my 2nd home, i always ask for assistance before trying any gear there.
@bin4 - if the ding is not so bad, u got some good quality wood there. if u could reconfigure the axe to your liking, forget trading.
@bin4 - if the ding is not so bad, u got some good quality wood there. if u could reconfigure the axe to your liking, forget trading.
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sanXp: Then may I ask, if you do not want to buy, why do you try? Yes you may say "Try first what, if like the save up and buy lor".
Alright, you may have a point. How about putting guitars and other breakable/damagable item on the same level. Say the example I've used before, glass displays. You may not want to buy it, but you wanna take a closer look at it. You accidentally drop it cause the box didn't have good support, but it was there BEFORE u touched it and it stood there nicely.
So you gonna tell them that no you didn't want it? And sorry I did it on accident?
I'm not sure about how you guys see guitars, yes guitars can still be played after cosmetic damages but as a shop you are the one bearing the consequence. In your eyes it may not be fair to the person who bought it off, but did you stand at the shop's viewpoint?
Alright, you may have a point. How about putting guitars and other breakable/damagable item on the same level. Say the example I've used before, glass displays. You may not want to buy it, but you wanna take a closer look at it. You accidentally drop it cause the box didn't have good support, but it was there BEFORE u touched it and it stood there nicely.
So you gonna tell them that no you didn't want it? And sorry I did it on accident?
I'm not sure about how you guys see guitars, yes guitars can still be played after cosmetic damages but as a shop you are the one bearing the consequence. In your eyes it may not be fair to the person who bought it off, but did you stand at the shop's viewpoint?
Actually... you guys wanna know whats "fair"?
Whats "fair" is whatever benefits you the most, and we all are guilty of it.
Before the protests start coming in, lets just note this:
Whatever the outcome, it has already happened. We can offer all our opinions and stuff, but its been done in a manner that doesn't involve anything "illegal" or undertable. Lets respect the shop's policy and decision.
At the end of the day, we can still go to G77, see friendly staff and pick up guitars to play. Thats key for us customers, us musicians, us guitar lovers. I don't want that to change to an enclosed glass room format.
Lets just learn the lessons and be careful with the guitars there.
Whats "fair" is whatever benefits you the most, and we all are guilty of it.
Before the protests start coming in, lets just note this:
Whatever the outcome, it has already happened. We can offer all our opinions and stuff, but its been done in a manner that doesn't involve anything "illegal" or undertable. Lets respect the shop's policy and decision.
At the end of the day, we can still go to G77, see friendly staff and pick up guitars to play. Thats key for us customers, us musicians, us guitar lovers. I don't want that to change to an enclosed glass room format.
Lets just learn the lessons and be careful with the guitars there.
Definately. If I want to hang the guitars out in the open, I will be prepared for some bloke to drop one. It will definately happen. And it will not be an avenue of profit. If I'm unable to risk that, I will lock up all the guitars behind a glass case or only hang a certain few guitars, probably the cheaper ones. Like swee lee, they put all of their most expensive guitars in a special room which is locked. And what's wrong with trying? What if the one he tried isn't the one he likes? He still wouldn't be buying it anyway.
