A note from blackhole212

[blackhole212]

Hi all,
this is a friendly note from blackhole212.

Blackhole DOES NOT, and HAS NEVER advocated bands paying out of their own pockets for unsold allocated presale tickets.

It is unethical and unfair.

Organisers who do so at our venue will have their shows cancelled.

Blackhole is a non-business, non-profit venue open for everyone to have a good time without money-making protfiteering monsters who make do-it-yourself gigs a product for personal gain.

we hope that organisers and musicians alike would look out for each other, whether experienced or amateur.

thank you for supporting blackhole212!!

feel free to email us at blackhole212.sg@gmail.com if you have any queries about how we work at blackhole212, gig information, booking information etc.

 

[misfitramones]

Nice looking out guys !

 

[bobby]

Hey Vanessa!
Thanks for having us at Blackhole the other day.
I meant what I said; I really admire and respect what you guys do as a collective. It's genuine, it's passionate, it's ambitious, and it's very very awesome. Keep up the good work, to everyone in the Blackhole committee and all who contribute to its daily running. I salute you! There should be more peeps like you Singapore. Respect, +10000

 

[Hentai_Tentacle_Monster]

Yes thank you so very much!

 

[ancientmariner]

Blackhole is a non-business, non-profit venue open for everyone to have a good time without money-making protfiteering monsters who make do-it-yourself gigs a product for personal gain.

So does that mean booking Blackhole as a venue for gig is so cheap?

 

[chaosphere]

So does that mean booking Blackhole as a venue for gig is so cheap?

Very admirable but in Singapore context, not very wise.

 

[lordie]

Very admirable but in Singapore context, not very wise.

so its abt time that ppl go to blackhole and support the bands playing right?

the place is ok, just need a decent PA systems and a Bass AMP!!! muhahahahaahah

 

[phoenix]

Hmm... wait till everyone grows up and needs a job, heh....

 

[lordie]

tickets there is like $5 or $8. is a price of a macvalue happy meal, dun need to get a job to go there lah.

 

[ancientmariner]

tickets there is like $5 or $8. is a price of a macvalue happy meal, dun need to get a job to go there lah.

Thing is: what is it about these bands that play at Blackhole that will make people willing to fork out $5 or $8 just to watch them play?

Pay $5 for a meal, one can get his stomach full.

Bands only think about playing gigs. Organizers only think about making money from organizing gigs. But anyone think about who are the ones willing to pay for their music? And how many these consumers are?

 

[RudimentalDrummer]

Very admirable but in Singapore context, not very wise.

Heheheheheheh actually it depends...get RMS there with our 20 Pinoy Bands and friends - we will drink up all your barrels ... Dry....it happened...of course but not at BlackHole.

Hmmmm it is nice to see this post..very admirable

Eric

 

[blank]

all you "realists" can piss off.
there is way more to music than just making money, i can't stand it when people who evidently don't give a damn about music scoff at people who have a passion for it.

 

[lordie]

Thing is: what is it about these bands that play at Blackhole that will make people willing to fork out $5 or $8 just to watch them play?

Pay $5 for a meal, one can get his stomach full.

Bands only think about playing gigs. Organizers only think about making money from organizing gigs. But anyone think about who are the ones willing to pay for their music? And how many these consumers are?

good qns tho... lol.

well depends on what bands is on the roster, some bands are worth more than $10 to watch them play and sometimes u walk away with free t-shirts and CD *grinz*

and yeah they are lotsa ppl that willing to pay to watch bands play, buy their merchandise, buy their CDs and some instances all our CD's and mechandise got sold out and folks pay sgd$40-50 to watch us and other bands play problem is... just that ... its not in singapore!

 

[Likui]

Thing is: what is it about these bands that play at Blackhole that will make people willing to fork out $5 or $8 just to watch them play?

Pay $5 for a meal, one can get his stomach full.

Bands only think about playing gigs. Organizers only think about making money from organizing gigs. But anyone think about who are the ones willing to pay for their music? And how many these consumers are?

to all bands since we're paying pls play well lol

 

[ancientmariner]

and yeah they are lotsa ppl that willing to pay to watch bands play, buy their merchandise, buy their CDs and some instances all our CD's and mechandise got sold out and folks pay sgd$40-50 to watch us and other bands play problem is... just that ... its not in singapore!

During the days when cassette tapes rule, I eagerly waited for a new demo from local bands to be released. $5 an okay sum to pay for a demo, and back then, demo quality wasn't that good. And there were many people who did the same things like me or even more...

Nowadays, with free downloads and Youtube, it's difficult to get people out to buy CDs or watch gigs... difficult but not impossible though

 

[lordie]

During the days when cassette tapes rule, I eagerly waited for a new demo from local bands to be released. $5 an okay sum to pay for a demo, and back then, demo quality wasn't that good. And there were many people who did the same things like me or even more...

Nowadays, with free downloads and Youtube, it's difficult to get people out to buy CDs or watch gigs... difficult but not impossible though

utube, downloads, myspace are great as digital marketing tools to reach an intended audience.

but a live gig, its the atmosphere, the booze, the headbanging and moshing, the occasional laughs and fist fights. even tho less than 100 turn up, it sure hell fun!

 

[FluxUs]

well thats just the way things are today.......more bands than fans because music is no longer the kind of mass entertainment it used to be up to the 90s........i mean cmon in the 70s a 'normal' joe wld actually own a copy of Dark Side Of The Moon. in the 80s, my older cousin (who is not the kind of person u think wld even like music haha) bought 7inch singles and 12inch singles of A-Ha and Franke Goes to Hollywood hahaha

their equivalents today i doubt wld treat music in the same way

so the fans are the ppl who wld then go on to form bands, and w availability of cheap equipment and hence it is becoming a 'specialist' niche increasingly.........its the decline of the mass market, not helped by the atomization of music into countless sub-genres creating further specialist niches.........just a fact nuthin to moan abt (maybe lament but hey we're all part of it)........

take all the above and apply to local context where most Sporeans treat the world as our market and point of reference and it gets much worse...........

 

[optisailor2002]

cos at gigs can get good deals on CDs.

i once got a stack of CDs (maybe around 5-10?) for a mere 40 bucks. and those were CDs that would have been sold for at least 10 bucks at any CD shop.

that plus live music, its worth the 8-10 bucks spent on entering the gig venue.

 

[MaeHeist]

PowerRRR hungryy

 

[lordie]

and u might get laid if u headbang hard enuff!!