Why so many softies selling off their CIJ Fender Strat ST72??

[mailsolo]

Ive been thinking of getting a first hand CIJ Fender Stratocaster St-72, but it seems to me that alot of softies are selling theirs here, with some only a few mths of ownership. I was wondering what caused em to sell off their ST 72 strat within a short period. Is there a technical flaw or problems with the ST-72 models? Or just due to some personal financial issues? Hmmmmmmm....

Dont mind sharing some opinions before I really get one for myself.

Thanks softies.

 

[Ahjon]

i've seen alot of other owners kept their st72 and use it too.
the ratio is alot bigger.

im guessing the reissue now are all basswood body if im not wrong.
some ppl might not like the tone off a basswood body guitar.

 

[mailsolo]

ah ok. I heard davisguitar sells CIJ Fender Strats rite? How much is the price range there for a CIJ's? Geez, ive never owned a fender strat before, well used to owned the fernandes 80's strat copy, and Ive tried and owned a few series of ibanez guitars, so I tot of a change.

 

[doomzz]

i've seen alot of other owners kept their st72 and use it too.
the ratio is alot bigger.

im guessing the reissue now are all basswood body if im not wrong.
some ppl might not like the tone off a basswood body guitar.

thats the same reason why i offloaded my mij st57. i didnt like the tone off a basswood body esp when its a fender tone that i want

 

[junkiemanxl]

I just sold mine so....
I used to have a ST72US stratocaster and still am holding on to my reissue ST71 telecaster in my collection.

IMO,

The CIJ's are actually good guitars. Very good lookers and at a fraction of the US made fenders. Some say the CIJ's are Giving some of the US fenders a run for their money. Well, i think that varies from individual. Only thing i did not like about the CIJ's are the amount of gloss on the neck for the reissue series. Most of them had way too much gloss on the necks that made the neck somewhat sticky. if you are shreding up and down the neck. It can slow you down a bit if your palms get a little sweaty.

Besides that, I would think it's a pretty good guitar but of course sometimes buying a guitar would require some luck on getting a good one be it a MIM to a CIJ to a MIA. It all varies.

Give the mexican made fender some thought. The mexicans have improved in quality so much.

Cheers!

 

[mailsolo]

ya tts wat ive noticed. They laquered too much on the neck which looks shiny. I guess tts one of the flaws of the CIJ Fender. :???: Im looking into MIM Fender too... im still considering which to get for myself... kinda tight budget though which i know USA fender's cost abit much.

 

[junkiemanxl]

ya tts wat ive noticed. They laquered too much on the neck which looks shiny. I guess tts one of the flaws of the CIJ Fender. :???: Im looking into MIM Fender too... im still considering which to get for myself... kinda tight budget though which i know USA fender's cost abit much.

I recently juz purchased a mexican deluxe players strat and i have to say it kicks ass in terms of tone and feel. I think its retailing at swee lee at 1199.00 now. before discount is at 1800++. Check it out if you happen to pop by. And they feature the noisless pickups!!!

Davis are selling their CIJ's for sligtly less than $1000. $980 i think.. comes with gig bag and paperwork. I poped by to test a st62 with dimarzios. Frankly i was rather dissapointed by the feel of that strat. Very bad tone and feel. It didnt even sound like a strat. there was no "strattyness" in tone. the neck felt uncomfortable as well. but like i said, it varies from individual. Oh yeah, FYI, that piece that i tried was made of basswood even though the owner tried to insist that its made of alder. You'll be able to tell from the model number if you have done your homework.

I really think the CIJ's are very lovely to look at. the nice thick laquer makes them real eye candy.

 

[subversion]

i've seen alot of other owners kept their st72 and use it too.
the ratio is alot bigger.

im guessing the reissue now are all basswood body if im not wrong.
some ppl might not like the tone off a basswood body guitar.

i'm definitely keeping my ST72. was there a prior ST72 before the current production that wasn't basswood? in any case, the ST72 isn't a re-issue by any means.

in the Fender domain, the Japs IMO are in a league of their own; they are simply good guitars for the money regardless if they replicate a certain Fender attribute/ tone. when i bought the ST72, i wasn't looking forward to a replication of a CBS-era strat...

 

[gsonique]

..with the new ones i find it hard to believe it's CIJ .... i totally dislike glossy laq on the neck.

 

[Mobius]

I got a ST-62, alder body, love it to bits, my main guitar now. only gripe is the glossy neck, kinda gets in the way when ur hands are sweaty. Does sanding way the gloss cause a change in tone?

 

[gsonique]

You can sand it to matt but it will shine again after getting polished by your hands
Use 1000 and above grade abrasive paper.
No change tone imo !!

 

[edder]

how about sanding it and give it a permanent blast of RJ Dull Lacquer? Smooth and matte.

 

[Ized]

I love the shiny laquer on my fender st57. btw the ones that are selling in davis are all made of basswood. its imposssible to get a alder bodied japanese fender for below 1k here as production costs have went up. the basswood fenders used to cost 850 but now it went up to 980. Likewise i saw the same fender as mine, an st57(alder body) in tymc going for around 1.2 k brand new. The CIJ strats are really value for money guitars with some tonal upgrades. I could have easily gotten an MIA strat with my budget but i chose the CIJ with upgrades, and it even pwns some of the MIA strats tone-wise that my friends have.

 

[junkiemanxl]

Agreed!
Anywho....
If you are planning to get an alder bodied reissue and is planning to go to davis to get it, Do remember that those are basswood and not alder. Do triple check before purchasing cause they will probably tell u its alder and swear by it.

Go to the japan fender website to check the correct model number for its models.

 

[NickyG]

i just got a cij fender off a trade. its pretty old.. so i think its alder, but it sounds darn amazing. the japanese take pride in their work!! even my mij tele is amazing..
very contented with the jap's work. i strongly reccomend them. unless you can afford a american deluxe of course! =DD

 

[Ized]

haha yeah i second that....those davis people dont even know the specs of the stuff they are selling...mr davis himself told me his strats were alder...even when i printed out the specs from the fender japan webby and showed it to him....like in your face proven wrong but still refuse to admit. :lol:

 

[mailsolo]

wow... really good info... thanks softies.... maybe yeah im getting a MIM fender... or hw abt those fender aerodyne strat?? any comments? :mrgreen:

 

[faizal_rocks]

I have a CIJ st62-78, sunburst with rosewood fretboard that I bought 2nd hand, which is still in mint condition. I agree that the glossy neck can sometimes get in the way of playing, which I found out upon playing it the first time. But after that I got used to it already.

I upgraded the pickups to Tesla VR-1s and its really a keeper for classic Strat tones from the 50s and beyond.

 

[keithC]

my st68 is an alder bodied unit.. one of the premium earlier cijs.. haha im lucky to have gotten it at quite a good 2nd hand price.
i had issues with the glossed neck too when i switched from a satin smooth ibanez neck to it. but ive grown to like the feel of it, and tone hands down
perhaps my level of playing is really not there yet, i dont find comfort at all shredding on a glossed maple fretboard. the feel is really different, as if its more "slippery". i suppose different guitars specialise at doing different things to a certain extend?

 

[Writer]

many people also complain about the same glossy feel on the Eric Johnson signature strat.