Ya but you gotta pay for a brand new set of tools since such a refret will damage them.
where to go for mods/setups
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Ya but you gotta pay for a brand new set of tools since such a refret will damage them.
kernelspy
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LOL. Are they the one who's currently renovating? :-D:twisted:
In fairness, if this is indeed the store in Peninsula I'm thinkin, they do have a good set of Tokai and some Epiphone guitars there. My buddy even bought a Boss SD-1, CS-3, and CE-5 for only $300! Not bad...
You have a point but sometimes there is a limit for the pricing for certain services rendered. Why settle for expensive setup when you can go to just an affordable luthier who can do at par services with the former?
Sometimes, high price does not necessarily mean QUALITY.
fgl
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Ya but you gotta pay for a brand new set of tools since such a refret will damage them.
order a new warmoth neck - its just an extra USD 30 for stainless steel frets
Zepp3lin
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=kernelspy
You are certainly right, same service same quality but lower price, that is definitely what we all are looking for.
Some people over charging their service and it does not mean its good quality, unless like I mention you are a spoil brat rich kid, money no object, buy something expensive and thought that it's quality is good but infact they got con.
It's something like you wanna get your PC repair or wanted to buy a new PC in Sim Lim, all of them offer the same service, as a customer definitely I'm gonna search for the lowest best price.
As for the guitar shop that they mention here, my opinion, they are overcharging definitely. Only friends and good contact will get the best prices over there.
Stainless Steel frets does not make the fretting tools blunt. Stainless Steel frets is definitely a softer material than the tools itself. Tools are made of treated Hardened Steel or iron, unless you wanna cut a diamond than maybe the fret tools will go blunt. It will wear out faster maybe, but even a sharp knife use to cut meat will go blunt in time but in a longer period.
You are certainly right, same service same quality but lower price, that is definitely what we all are looking for.
Some people over charging their service and it does not mean its good quality, unless like I mention you are a spoil brat rich kid, money no object, buy something expensive and thought that it's quality is good but infact they got con.
It's something like you wanna get your PC repair or wanted to buy a new PC in Sim Lim, all of them offer the same service, as a customer definitely I'm gonna search for the lowest best price.
As for the guitar shop that they mention here, my opinion, they are overcharging definitely. Only friends and good contact will get the best prices over there.
Stainless Steel frets does not make the fretting tools blunt. Stainless Steel frets is definitely a softer material than the tools itself. Tools are made of treated Hardened Steel or iron, unless you wanna cut a diamond than maybe the fret tools will go blunt. It will wear out faster maybe, but even a sharp knife use to cut meat will go blunt in time but in a longer period.
What should be the limit?
Should we even be talking about "limits" when frankly - "expensive" is a relative term. $2 for a chocolate bar is peanuts to a working adult but that could the entire day's allowance for some school kid.
Maybe we should be talking about quality. Who does an excellent job. Who does a good job. Who does crap stuff. Who cheats.
relinquish69
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its actually quite obvious which shop it is. in fact, I hang out at that particular shop very often and you might even see me there "working" sometimes. however, I'm just a friend to the boss of that itssoobviouswhichshopyouaretalkingabout. with regards to his pricing I wouldnt know but with regards to his repairs, I would say it is "good enough" for me to pay up that fair bit.
before I even discovered this store, I always sent my guitars to another store in peninsular plaza. just a simple string buzz problem but no matter how many times I went there to set it up, it never got solved. it just so happened that I went to that itssoobviouswhichshopyouaretalkingabout and my problem was solved for good. the thing is, at least this guy knows what the problem is exactly and not trying all sorts of trial and errors before getting it right.
with regards to repairs being done sloppily it could be due to the fact that there is some miscommunication between him and his workers. heck, it could even be miscommunication between you and the boss himself. for example, what if he said he'd change new pots for you and you just nodded your head. you might be thinking to yourself that he is replacing CTS pots for you but all that you got were A and B pots. some things just need to double confirm.
last thing, some of their customers want rush jobs. meaning to say that they want the repair done on that very day itself. in order for that to happen, other repairs have to be pushed to the back and a few hours is spent working on that particular job. its just like calling and booking a taxi, you have to pay extra for that service right? same rule applies.
to me, being so called "conned" would mean a total rip off like selling something way higher than the listed price or doing a halff**k job and charging you a whole lot. as long as its a job well done and no further problems arise, whats wrong with paying the so called "extra"?
I'm not trying to defend the store here, its just a matter of putting yourself in others shoes. he has his own ways and reasons to run a business and if it works for him good. if it doesnt work for you than dont bother about his shop anymore.
however on my side, I wouldnt mind popping by every week just to look for any good deals hanging around. I guess you guys are right on the " regular customers get better deals thing ". the key to getting better deals is to....... keep buying? hahaha! anyway, with regards to any issues regarding itssoobviouswhichshopyouaretalkingabout, maybe just pm me or discuss it here? if its something constructive I could maybe tell the boss about it.
however please hor, I'm not working for the shop ok? so dont bombard me with complains or pricings. that one you have to call him yourself.
before I even discovered this store, I always sent my guitars to another store in peninsular plaza. just a simple string buzz problem but no matter how many times I went there to set it up, it never got solved. it just so happened that I went to that itssoobviouswhichshopyouaretalkingabout and my problem was solved for good. the thing is, at least this guy knows what the problem is exactly and not trying all sorts of trial and errors before getting it right.
with regards to repairs being done sloppily it could be due to the fact that there is some miscommunication between him and his workers. heck, it could even be miscommunication between you and the boss himself. for example, what if he said he'd change new pots for you and you just nodded your head. you might be thinking to yourself that he is replacing CTS pots for you but all that you got were A and B pots. some things just need to double confirm.
last thing, some of their customers want rush jobs. meaning to say that they want the repair done on that very day itself. in order for that to happen, other repairs have to be pushed to the back and a few hours is spent working on that particular job. its just like calling and booking a taxi, you have to pay extra for that service right? same rule applies.
to me, being so called "conned" would mean a total rip off like selling something way higher than the listed price or doing a halff**k job and charging you a whole lot. as long as its a job well done and no further problems arise, whats wrong with paying the so called "extra"?
I'm not trying to defend the store here, its just a matter of putting yourself in others shoes. he has his own ways and reasons to run a business and if it works for him good. if it doesnt work for you than dont bother about his shop anymore.
however on my side, I wouldnt mind popping by every week just to look for any good deals hanging around. I guess you guys are right on the " regular customers get better deals thing ". the key to getting better deals is to....... keep buying? hahaha! anyway, with regards to any issues regarding itssoobviouswhichshopyouaretalkingabout, maybe just pm me or discuss it here? if its something constructive I could maybe tell the boss about it.
however please hor, I'm not working for the shop ok? so dont bombard me with complains or pricings. that one you have to call him yourself.
seekz
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Relax, don't get so worked up. Not your place to be anyway.
Good for you your string buzz got fixed.
I don't really wana dig up the past cos I'm fixing guitars myself
now thanx to them.
But I would like to speak up for myself, as a customer a year ago.
I had scratchy pots, went to GC, the short guy told me i had to
change all my pots. Long story short I was promised the super
expensive CTS pots and I even have reciept to prove it.
I got my guitar back, yes its no longer scratchy for a few months
then it became scratchy again. What can I say, I open it up and
there you go no CTS pots.
Can you sell curry puff without curry inside?
So I paid 80 bucks for what? Quality chat with the boss?
Good for you your string buzz got fixed.
I don't really wana dig up the past cos I'm fixing guitars myself
now thanx to them.
But I would like to speak up for myself, as a customer a year ago.
I had scratchy pots, went to GC, the short guy told me i had to
change all my pots. Long story short I was promised the super
expensive CTS pots and I even have reciept to prove it.
I got my guitar back, yes its no longer scratchy for a few months
then it became scratchy again. What can I say, I open it up and
there you go no CTS pots.
Can you sell curry puff without curry inside?
So I paid 80 bucks for what? Quality chat with the boss?
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Godspeed64
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This just breaks relinquish69's argument, seeing that he charged for things he didnt do, yet still pretending as if he did.. :mrgreen:
relinquish69
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actually right, for the first 3 pages everyone was like beating round the bush but everyone was like trying to make it look so obvious which shop it is instead of replying to the original title of "where to go for mods/setups. dont you guys feel that this thread actually turned out to be some guitar store flamming thread?
every guitar store you go to sure got bad stories. this guy quote me too high, the guitar he sold to me spoilt, that guy broke my truss rod etc etc. if people do good job, how often they get complimented? if people do bad job only, straight away just whack.
with regards to that incident I wouldnt know, it depends on who you want to believe or how true is the statement.
every guitar store you go to sure got bad stories. this guy quote me too high, the guitar he sold to me spoilt, that guy broke my truss rod etc etc. if people do good job, how often they get complimented? if people do bad job only, straight away just whack.
with regards to that incident I wouldnt know, it depends on who you want to believe or how true is the statement.
seekz
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Logically speaking, different individuals from around the country
won't gather round to flame a particular shop right? Leave that
to the conspiracy theorist.
I haven't heard a single complaint about Beez or malcom so far.
If fact I haven't heard anything else about them other than
reccomendations and praises.
Depends on who's telling the truth, you can don't believe the
general consensus that Beez and malcom does their job well
won't gather round to flame a particular shop right? Leave that
to the conspiracy theorist.
I haven't heard a single complaint about Beez or malcom so far.
If fact I haven't heard anything else about them other than
reccomendations and praises.
Depends on who's telling the truth, you can don't believe the
general consensus that Beez and malcom does their job well
ShredAddict
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What no complaints about Beez and Malcolm... I'm sure people would've had their dissatisfactions before. No one's perfect.
Bottomline is, if people make mistakes you complain, then if they do a good job you don't commend them for it. Ironic isn't it? Furthermore, I've sent my guitars to Guitar Connection tons of times, and I have never received any less, and I am a very particular customer. Be it paint work, routing, electronics, fret work (I had fret work done on a vintage mapled neck strat, and the result was flawless)... My answer to you is, don't see it from just your point of view but everyone elses. If you all dislike GC so much, then why has business been so good for the past 4 years there? It only goes to show that they provide quality work and good customer service.
Bottomline is, if people make mistakes you complain, then if they do a good job you don't commend them for it. Ironic isn't it? Furthermore, I've sent my guitars to Guitar Connection tons of times, and I have never received any less, and I am a very particular customer. Be it paint work, routing, electronics, fret work (I had fret work done on a vintage mapled neck strat, and the result was flawless)... My answer to you is, don't see it from just your point of view but everyone elses. If you all dislike GC so much, then why has business been so good for the past 4 years there? It only goes to show that they provide quality work and good customer service.
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ShredAddict
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Personally, IMHO I think you should just go down to the 'so called' shop and ask about it nicely, because I am sure whoever the owner of the shop would not be happy about the flaming soft gives.
Hehehe. Maybe your friends like frets dressed really hard? Or they don't trust a strobe's intonation as much as their ears...
Come on. Don't be brash. Show yer evidences. Snap some shots.
There's been some complaints about certain shops - I recall one thread had pictures and stuff.
As far as I know, the complaints I've heard about Malcolm = personal preference or Malcolm's policy about how he prefers to do things his way.
After all, why has he had such good business for the past 4 years there? It only goes to show that he provides quality work and good customer service.
So much about flaming. Heh.
Btw, human error isn't the same as outright cheating.
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Plastic
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No dude, it isn't ironic at all.
See, when you give your guitar to someone, you expect them do do the work after you pay. So it is but normal to have a job done well, and it would be just like a normal thing ,you're paying for their service, this you don't really mention it. But when stuff gets screwed up, of course you'll be pissed, you'll talk about it, etc. What is commendable is when they go the extra mile for you, then I'm sure people like that gets alot of commendation, just look around.
Okay, just rumbling.
PS: Uh, you kinda in a way mentioned the shop already in your post.
See, when you give your guitar to someone, you expect them do do the work after you pay. So it is but normal to have a job done well, and it would be just like a normal thing ,you're paying for their service, this you don't really mention it. But when stuff gets screwed up, of course you'll be pissed, you'll talk about it, etc. What is commendable is when they go the extra mile for you, then I'm sure people like that gets alot of commendation, just look around.
Okay, just rumbling.
PS: Uh, you kinda in a way mentioned the shop already in your post.
relinquish69
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"PS: Uh, you kinda in a way mentioned the shop already in your post."
actually, it was already mentioned on the previous page
actually, it was already mentioned on the previous page
Zepp3lin
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Like Seekz, I did all of my guitar repair job myself everything accept for refretting. Did alot of reading on refretting but hack, I have to spend a bit on the tools say about SG$200++ for the tools. So I thought rather than I spend on the tools, it's just better to let a luthier do the fretting job and so I ask around....., if the job done took about Half of the guitar price, might as well I buy myself a new Neck, right? or Not? its way cheaper.
If you talking about price limit, this is what I meant.
Quoting for about $550++ for a fret job is damn ridiculous man, I can get a superb quality neck for that kind of price. I do not want to name the person or shop who quoted me the price here.
So for a fretting job I've already ask quite a few shops, average is about SG$200 - 300 depends on the neck weather it's 21 or 24 frets. Reasonable enough.
Another thing $80 F---ing dollars for a con job on the pots, Oh My god Seekz you really kana con man.
I did not even charge my best friends for a pot change or changing of pickups. Its a damn bloody simple job to do and of my frens appreciate the job quality that I've done. I even use a Silver solder for the soldering parts. Total cost friendship and free makan and cigarette
If the shop really did change the 4pots, think for yourself is it really gonna cost $80/-
Estimation charges base on my opinion.
1 pot = $8
4 pots = $32
some new wiring estimation $2
solder = few cents
Workmanship = $20
Total = $54
Standard guitar normally comes only with 2 pots
So if 2 pots change it's only $38.
And if you know how to find lobang in Sim Lim Tower, 1 pot can just cost around $2
If you talking about price limit, this is what I meant.
Quoting for about $550++ for a fret job is damn ridiculous man, I can get a superb quality neck for that kind of price. I do not want to name the person or shop who quoted me the price here.
So for a fretting job I've already ask quite a few shops, average is about SG$200 - 300 depends on the neck weather it's 21 or 24 frets. Reasonable enough.
Another thing $80 F---ing dollars for a con job on the pots, Oh My god Seekz you really kana con man.
I did not even charge my best friends for a pot change or changing of pickups. Its a damn bloody simple job to do and of my frens appreciate the job quality that I've done. I even use a Silver solder for the soldering parts. Total cost friendship and free makan and cigarette
If the shop really did change the 4pots, think for yourself is it really gonna cost $80/-
Estimation charges base on my opinion.
1 pot = $8
4 pots = $32
some new wiring estimation $2
solder = few cents
Workmanship = $20
Total = $54
Standard guitar normally comes only with 2 pots
So if 2 pots change it's only $38.
And if you know how to find lobang in Sim Lim Tower, 1 pot can just cost around $2
