What do you guys think of Sg scene?

[ryuxdragonx]

=AgingYouth

I can only do it after my O's next year. I'll definitely use my expertises to help band organise a gig next year =)

 

[AgingYouth]

Like what bro edder bro will say, all the best to your future endeavours! Be mindful of the P&L!!!

 

[PatheinRaindropMoe]

hehe, this thread is still alive!

Lets bump all the threads available on helping the local scene, locate all those who start those threads and see what they are doing now, see whether is there an update of helping the scene or busy having a real live in the real world

 

[pedialite]

Actually we kinda have alot of gigs going on.. its just that the better ones require you to practice your asses off and get tight. Or else you're just gonna have to keep selling tickets..

 

[emochick]

i was thinking of organizing a gig for my portfolio development module next year. but sourcing for sponsors would be hard. so, should i go ahead with it? it concerns my grades directly. lol.

 

[Maman]

this is wat i share about gigs and tickets
for the organiser
i think we have to make an agreement with all the band that performing
regarding the tix. This is one of the major things that bands have been complaning about. the amount of tix they are FORCE to sell in order to play.
why i use the term force? it is because this band who never get to sell all the tix they have to recover the amount to pay to the organisers.
how to improve it.
20tix i believe is the standard amount that organaiser should set as a target
and for those band who think they need more they can ask
and for those band who really cant sell 20 have to pay...
coz 30 tix is rather alot for some band to sell.
and organiser who are trying to adapt with the local scene.
your plan should be good, no delays of set. or push forward, or when a band take more than 30 minutes, the next band suffer,
eg.
1st band start at 3 end at 3:40,
ten minutes delay due to set up.
2nd band start at 3:40 but have to end at 4,
so this will really start a miscommunication btw bands and organiser.

so bands also have to work well with the organiser to create less of a hussle
for both party. a good gig is when bands and organiser can relate with each other without miscommunication.

well whatever it is, communication is the most vital for organiser and band,

well just sharing my experience i had in my previous gig, working with oraganisers,
well bands if u hate working with organiser go DIY!!
set up a small gig consist of 4-5 bands.
and just switch foot and be a organiser for a day.
haha

cheers guy!

 

[pedialite]

but bands can choose not to play and therefore, eliminating the need to sell tickets. unless the organiser tells you you need to sell tickets only AFTER you've joined the lineup. then thats effed up.

 

[Fake_Eyelash]

but bands can choose not to play and therefore, eliminating the need to sell tickets. unless the organiser tells you you need to sell tickets only AFTER you've joined the lineup. then thats effed up.

yup thats true
but bands will sometimes take the amount of tix even though they know its farfetch for them to sell the tix jus so tat they can have exposure fr themselves
its rather like a win-lose situation..
but its kinda pain in the pockets if they have to fork out the cash
that wat i feel..

 

[visa]

you know the deal before you make it.

so prepare yourself lah! get confirmation from everybody who'll buy your tickets before you even sign up for such a show.

 

[Maman]

but the thing is visa
friends like to make last minute amendments
cancel the tix oh wat so ever
so it rather crucial wen things like ths get in the way.

 

[osXsan]

Local SG scene

I'd highly recommend bands to send in your demo that you want to be aired to one of my side kick Lil' Rampage (Google: rampage on the airwaves). The unique thing with Little Rampage's blog is that its being worked on from The Netherlands. We live here.

If any band needs advise on sound & recording, I can also try to help. But if its bad material that you've recorded, from the start, I cannot help polish that!

Listening to stuffs that I've been told from Lil' Rampage, I think the music scene in Singapore has definitely been thrown to a new level and age. Like any other business, music means business and its booming due to the technology behind it (me being an engineer & producer) which helped tremendously.

I wish I knew Wayne Thunder personally. But his lost and the event that I see myself on youtube on local bands reaching to show their condolence yet gratitude is where we are at today. It is definitely a good sign saying that Singapore does have its standards up and growing.


Right now - music is a network structure. Ears in Holland could be listening to your latest track. Now how huge is that to you... is what you think it will be.

 

[pedialite]

=Fake_Eyelash


its true, every band wants exposure, but only bands that aren't really serious about getting their name out there, or bands that aren't up to standard have to play gigs that sell tickets.

If you're a great band and have a decent demo, most probably you'll be able to play gigs that wont require you to sell tickets.

Genre-wise, it isn't really a problem now as singaporeans in general are opening up to more alternative forms of music.

I personally have played gigs that require ticket selling and it was stressful as hell. No friends wanna support and shit.
My band and I resorted to standing outside the bar where the gig was held to sell tickets while other bands were playing. At the end we had to cover our own losses as we didnt sell all the tickets off.

And oh ya, many of those "ticket gigs" bands just play covers. =/ not meaning to diss anyone but what kinda exposure you wanna get playing covers. Most of them probably just play the gig to enjoy and have a good time.

cough*red*cough*bar*cough*DXO*cough

 

[MadHatter]

=pedialite

That really sucks. My band will never sell tickets to play at a show. It's truely making use of the bands to generate some income. It's cool to play music alone or with a group but it's definitely not cool if people ask you to pay so you can play.

IMO, the local music scene is now filled with a lot of dudes who just picked up an instrument and strum 2-string power chords with high gain. No offence but i've seen a lot of these kind of acts around. I'm probably in no position to judge but even the more famous acts aren't amazingly amazing in terms of musicianship. They're good no doubt but there's nothing more than just enjoying the acts. Most of the time i find it hard to admire someone for that skill that they possess. The real dudes don't gig at the usual "rock-out" place. You guys should check out the Mosaic Jam sessions around 10pm. That's where the killer people come together and improvise.

Just my 2 cents.

Cheers!

 

[pedialite]

well, weekendTrip rocks pretty hard too and its been along for so long yet going so strong.. my bro played at weekendtrip in the 90s, i'm kinda trying to do the same with my band

 

[Maman]

=Fake_Eyelash


its true, every band wants exposure, but only bands that aren't really serious about getting their name out there, or bands that aren't up to standard have to play gigs that sell tickets.

If you're a great band and have a decent demo, most probably you'll be able to play gigs that wont require you to sell tickets.

Genre-wise, it isn't really a problem now as singaporeans in general are opening up to more alternative forms of music.

I personally have played gigs that require ticket selling and it was stressful as hell. No friends wanna support and shit.
My band and I resorted to standing outside the bar where the gig was held to sell tickets while other bands were playing. At the end we had to cover our own losses as we didnt sell all the tickets off.

And oh ya, many of those "ticket gigs" bands just play covers. =/ not meaning to diss anyone but what kinda exposure you wanna get playing covers. Most of them probably just play the gig to enjoy and have a good time.

cough*red*cough*bar*cough*DXO*cough

yup thats true
my band did it too.
and we just cancel our gig this 9th feb
@ DXO
30 tickets to sell for a 1 week notice?
and futhermore organiser have the cheek to insult my band
sayin that we have no ability to play??
when he have not listen to my band played(even when we have play on 1 of his gig) or even listen our demo?
and he never listen to band who plays at his organised gigs
he just sit outside and cound his profits

this is the type of organiser who uses band as a source of income.
tell me how do our local scene wanna be notice when this type
of organiser is around
organiser should not always think about the profit they wanna earn when they
are out there helpin the scene
if they are thinkin of profit, that not helpin the local scene
that is killing the scene
cmon 30 tix? for a 30 min set?
u guys think worth it? sellin your arse off tryin to sell tickets?
dont lah. u guys end up payin the remaining tickets
and 1 tickets is 12bucks??
notice for bands
if u cant sell dun play or u end up payin using your own money,
well dun take up the contract wen it is a ridiculous band
there is alway 2 type of organiser around,
ripping and saving
so choose wisely

that my note to all bands that out there.
some of u may think 30 tickets is nothing
and 12 dollar is cheap
well think again what if u can sell 30?
and manage to sell only 20.
u have to pay the remaining 10?
and thats is alot.

cheers people

 

[be3z-v-]

Threadstarter. What do YOU think of the SG scene? (25 marks)

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[vx02]

im not taking any side here, but well, personally i think theres a fine line between, taking advantage and making profit. gigs do cost money, and i know of organisers who make just enough money to organise the next gig and the next and so forth. and i have heard of organisers who have made around the 2 to 3k figure per gig.

then again, bands have to lose that impression that they have a right to play for free. my friend who plays in a band in aus says that they have to fork out AUD$100 for a 45 min slot in a club, so i guess other people have it worse? but yeah, things dont come for free nowadays. bands complain that "aiyah we must sell tickets etc etc" and expect a crowd to be there to cheer them on. i mean its human nature to get less for more, but hey wake up kid, life's not always like that.

but thats just one facet of the story. for the scene to change, it takes two hands to clap. dgos, bands, fans, etc. dgos must start by selecting bands that they think are ready to play, bands have to start putting in good music to generate fans, fans who need to understand that gigs cost money and their money is important in the running of gigs. and most of all, the rest of those people who are out there dissing the scene to be more open and understand that art doesnt have to cost a shitload of money and ends up getting hung on the wall.

haha i hope this doesnt offend anyone, but this is again, just my 2cents. hahaha

 

[AgingYouth]

this is the type of organiser who uses band as a source of income.
tell me how do our local scene wanna be notice when this type
of organiser is around
organiser should not always think about the profit they wanna earn when they
are out there helpin the scene
if they are thinkin of profit, that not helpin the local scene
that is killing the scene

Live with it.

We have chosen not to dabble in payola from the start. But it's our choice.

Of course, the promoter wants to earn money from it. Why would he help a band which he doesn't even know? Helping the scene...? Please.

Unfortunately, it's either you or him. And the power is in his hands. So, either play ball or leave the court.

 

[vx02]

Of course, the promoter wants to earn money from it. Why would he help a band which he doesn't even know? Helping the scene...? Please.

Unfortunately, it's either you or him. And the power is in his hands. So, either play ball or leave the court.

true, life isnt as sweet as we want it to be. and alot of bands fail to realise that. but to the organisers who take advantage of the bands, take two fingers, and put it where it belongs.

 

[Maman]

yup its true wat u said ter bro AY...
play the ball or leave the court
its up to one decissions to choose